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    Penguins Coach Dan Bylsma supports putting red line back in, slowing game down

    138485660The last time the NHL and the NHLPA strapped on their battle gear for a labor war, a slew of rules changes were instituted for the next season. And boy, losing that season sure was worth the shootout. (sigh)

    We might not see the same revolutionary tweaks to the rule book in 2012-13, but given the ongoing concerns about player safety we're probably going to see something happen to address them.

    One of the contentious issues: "Putting the red line back in," and disallowing two-line passes. Some, like Eric Lindros, would do just that to slow the game down.

    Others, like Adrian Dater, believe it would slow the game down by reverting the NHL back to the trap years.

    Pittsburgh Penguins coach Dan Bylsma has seen his share of injuries, and a number of them resulting from the speed of the current NHL product. Enough of them, in fact, that he's Team Lindros in this debate.

    From Shelley Anderson of the Post-Gazette:

    "The red line has increased the speed of the game," he said. "I think maybe slowing it down a little bit by putting the red line back in is something to think about. It's faster than it's ever been, and it's played faster than it's ever been. It's the execution of the puck more than it's that the skaters are faster. It's how you can execute with the puck with the red line taken out.

    "I'm not saying we should hold and hook, but I think it's a slower game with the red line in. I think you'd still have exciting hockey [with the red line] if you continue to not allow holding, hooking, open-hand [grabbing], that type of thing."

    Each coach in the NHL likely approaches this issue from his own philosophical and systematic point of view. The Penguins aren't exactly a firewagon hockey team. They're also a team that's seen the speed of the game cost them key players for long stretches.

    But Bylsma's is a voice worth considering in these debates, as one of the game's better students.

     

    57 comments

    • Scott  •  Kansas City, Kansas  •  3 months ago
      Put red line back in to reduce injuries? Yet they won't consider going to no-touch icing to reduce injuries. Ridiculous hypocrites. I guarantee keep red line in, no-touch icing and removing the instigator penalty would reduce injuries.
      • James F 3 months ago
        How many injuries have been caused this year on icings? I can think of one. How many have been caused by players coming fast through the neutral zone? A lot.
      • Jeff S 3 months ago
        I agree about the instigator penalty - in the good ole' days players thought twice about putting cheap shots on star players.
      • DanB 3 months ago
        but what about hybrid icing? in which the linesman blows the play dead when there is a clear winner to the puck but if they're neck and neck they let the play continue! that will certainly reduce injuries because all of bad collisions are on plays where one player is clearly beat, right? right????
    • Tony M  •  Durham, North Carolina  •  3 months ago
      Somewhere the three Devils fans on the planet rejoice at this opinion.
    • Scott  •  Houston, Texas  •  3 months ago
      Look at the uproar when Tampa Bay delayed the game with a trap against Philly. You seriously want a conversation about his?
    • Joel  •  Dallas, Texas  •  3 months ago
      I'll take Dan Bylsma's opinion over Adrain Drater's on any day, on any topic.
      • Sfsresf 3 months ago
        Good thinking. Take one guy's opinion over another, even when it's unproven and asinine.
    • Joe  •  Tucker, Georgia  •  3 months ago
      Watch an NHL game from say 1985 or 1986 and a game from 1995 or 96. The difference is mind boggling.
    • austin a  •  Southfield, Michigan  •  3 months ago
      Only one thing I must know: how does Bryzgalov feel about this issue?
      • Ryan 3 months ago
        the red line issue is so huMANgous big
    • B  •  Sunnyvale, California  •  3 months ago
      I can't think of any Pens injury that was a result of someone coming into the zone with too much speed.
      • madajs 3 months ago
        Seriously, I don't understand why these theories get any press, considering the huge gaping holes in them.
    • fletch81  •  Troy, Michigan  •  3 months ago
      Removing the idiotic 2 line pass was the best decision the NHL has made in the last decade. Why the hell would anyone want to slow the game down?

      You want to protect players? Get rid of the instigator rule and start handing out 10+ game suspensions for illegal hits. You think players giving up 10% - 25% of their income wouldn't make players think twice?
      • b 3 months ago
        Nailed it...
    • RG  •  Belleville, Michigan  •  3 months ago
      Since the game is faster, give them more space. Go to an olympic size rink. But owners are against this as they loose seats.
    • Josh Hoffman  •  Sherman Oaks, California  •  3 months ago
      The game is faster because the players are faster. If you put the redline back in then you decrease the amount of vertical space in which players can make plays and effectively decrease the overall playing area by half the neutral zone. You end up with more bodies in a smaller space, meaning more collisions, not less.
    • Alex  •  Cypress, California  •  3 months ago
      They can start by just doing what they do in college hockey, just call icing when the puck is iced. Don't make players race to touch it.
    • Soup  •  3 months ago
      Most of the injuries come around the net or end boards, not the neutral zone area. The red line sucked and I am glad it's gone.
    • Chris L  •  3 months ago
      What key injuries have they had because of the two line pass being taken out? Crosby, Letang and Malkin's recent injuries did not feature a two line pass. Particularly with Letang's injury. It doesn't take players that many strides to hit full speed anyway, and you will still see the same sort of injuries outside of the neutral zone.

      Also, Lindros in not the best spokeman to argue against this rule change, because the red line certainly didn't prevent him from getting his bell rung.
    • Michael  •  Washington, District of Columbia  •  3 months ago
      You want to reduce head injuries? Remove the plastic caps from shoulder and elbow pads. And add no-touch icing.
    • Joe C  •  Newark, New Jersey  •  3 months ago
      I think everyone is missing the point here. . .The players themselves are different. . .The bigger players 210-220+ can skate stride for stride with most of the average sized player (180-190) in the league. . .Players are bigger, faster (possibly have more facial hair) and hitting has developed. . . look at checks in the game 10-15 years ago. . .some what sloppy, but there was a lot of clutching and grabbing to make up for your missed check. . . now your not aloud that clutch or grab, guys who are laying hits are making them very accurate and precise to deliver a very hard check in a small area. . .the equipment has changed as well
    • John  •  New York, New York  •  3 months ago
      If they're going to reinstate the red line, then I want two things:
      1) take OUT the trapezoid and let the goalies roam free! The goalie will now have the option to play the puck instead of getting the icing if he sees the other team in a change and give his team a chance to score.
      2) I want no-touch icing!! That way, if you're going to make a pass at the red-line, you better be able to hit the guy on the tape. Miss and ye shall be punished with a faceoff in your own zone!! This will make sure that guys carry the puck through the zone if they can't make a good pass, thus eliminating what we used to see - bad pass after bad pass by the red-line.

      Make these changes and maybe we might consider taking out the red-line.
    • shaggyscotsman  •  3 months ago
      Bylsma's using some serious mind control on Richard Park in that pic.

      Also, please don't put the red line back in.
    • Swift's Toole Box  •  3 months ago
      Putting the red line back in will not reduce injuries because I will be stabbing everyone who says it's a good idea.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  3 months ago
      Ice with larger dimensions. Maybe not quite Olympic size, but somewhere between where it is now and Olympic size.
    • cowboycoffee  •  San Francisco, California  •  3 months ago
      there were injuries before it was removed. it's up to the players to not injure.

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