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    Ball Don't Lie

    Chicago’s owner sees an unfortunate comparison between Derrick Rose and Michael Jordan

    Phil Jackson, Jordan, and Jerry Reinsdorf prepare to talk to Scottie Pippen about 'the overalls thing' (Getty)

    Chicago Bulls fans have been uneasy all season about the one small stain on coach Tom Thibodeau's otherwise sterling resume, and that's the handling of his starters in the late stages of blowout games. Chicago has a terrific bench and is leading the NBA by a wide margin in point differential, topping teams by an average of 10 points per game, but regular watchers of Bulls games will notice Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah, and especially Luol Deng in the lineups late in what appear to be already-decided games. Complicating things further is the fact that Noah and Deng, due to both fatigue and plain bad luck, have been injury-prone over the course of their careers. And Rose is set to miss his third straight game due to back spasms after missing five games with turf toe earlier in the season.

    Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf, while not exactly calling coach Thibodeau out, sees a parallel between this mini-controversy and his own time spent with Phil Jackson coaching Bulls teams featuring Michael Jordan. From ESPN Chicago's Melissa Isaacson:

    "I'm one of those people who watches and thinks, 'Why don't you get him out of the game?'" Reinsdorf said of Rose. "When Michael was still in the game and he would be in at the end of big wins, I'd say, 'Phil, why don't you take him out?' And Phil would say, 'When I was with the Knicks, an opponent once scored 23 straight points against us at the end of a game to win.' With Phil, he just wouldn't listen. He'd just keep bringing up that same game."

    We understand where Reinsdorf is coming from regarding Rose, and while Michael Jordan played some heavy minutes during his time with Chicago, the Bulls owner may have his facts a little botched in this situation.

    [Michael Jordan: Only one player has earned the right for comparison]

    For one, the game Jackson was referring to was actually a Knicks win. And it's surprising to note that Reinsdorf, who grew up a Knicks fan, doesn't remember the famous Knick win over Milwaukee that saw the team (including Jackson) put together a 19-0 run at Madison Square Garden to finish the game and beat Milwaukee by a point. And I know Jackson wasn't relaying bad facts to curry favor with Reinsdorf, because we've heard him discuss this particular game a couple of times.

    Secondly, ardent Bulls fans (and especially those who weren't fretting while watching a player they paid millions a year to) will also recall the fourth quarter after fourth quarter that saw Jordan and Scottie Pippen with bags of ice plastic-wrapped to their knees. Not just out of the game, but with ice on knees. As in, "game over." On top of that, angry Bulls fans threw their fair of vitriol the television's way when Jackson would sit Jordan during long stretches of games, letting his teammates "work things out" while the lead (and game) seemingly slipped away. I was one of them, at times.

    Jackson cut Jordan's minutes after taking over the Bulls in 1989, and dropped his minutes even further once Jordan came back from his first retirement. The minutes spiked in Jordan's last season with Chicago, but only because a beat-up Bulls team (with Toni Kukoc playing through injury and Pippen out for the first half of the season) badly needed Jordan to stay afloat as they hung on to win a series of close games.

    Jerry's points hold up, but it's the usual mix of fear, fandom, pragmatism, the boss/employee relationship, and happenings 10 (or 20) years ago. And, again, Reinsdorf isn't ripping Thibodeau (who has been masterful, otherwise, in his second season with Chicago) here. We've had issues with Reinsdorf's stewardship from time to time, but he also has done a fine job over the years of staying out of coaching decisions save for asking then-coach Stan Albeck to put a limit on Jordan's minutes in 1986 as he worked his way back from a broken foot.

    Reinsdorf is right about Rose, as Derrick prepares to sit out Chicago's Tuesday night game against the lowly Sacramento Kings. The lead-up to it might be a little off, though.

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    33 comments

    • Sean  •  San Diego, California  •  3 months ago
      Settle down people. lol. Im a huge MJ fan. He is the greatest player ever and anyone who has followed the game for more than just the last 10 years knows this. Nobody else is even a close #2 at this point in time. Maybe if Lebron can win 4 rings or so and keep putting up the regular season numbers he puts up then we can start the comparison. Kobe is great....amazing player. But he is worse than MJ in EVERY statistical category that you can measure besides 3 pointers.

      But with that said, the article wasnt comparing Rose and MJ as players, it was simply comparing the long minutes spent out on the floor. Thats all. Its a fair thing to bring up. Rose is the new face of the Bulls, Jordan was the old face of the Bulls.

      I agree most Yahoo writers are garbage but this wasnt a garbage story compared to most.
      • Darc xeD 3 months ago
        FYI: read this post:http://darcxed.wordpress.com/2012/01/21/his-airness-said-it-its-black-mamba-deserves-the-comparison/

        where MJ declares that "only" KB deserves comparison to him.
    • omar s  •  Fayetteville, North Carolina  •  3 months ago
      phil jackson has the best basketball strategy in basketball because it works, their is not a such thing as bad players but could be bad coaching
    • omar s  •  Fayetteville, North Carolina  •  3 months ago
      Rose is worth watching because always comes to play with room for improvement even against the best players whether they win or lose
    • omar s  •  Fayetteville, North Carolina  •  3 months ago
      no comparison but i like rose because he love playing against the best, and is not scared to do it or take the big shot, and wants to play even when he is injuried but mj, nope. Rose loves going up against any player and any great team, and he brings his A game
    • omar s  •  Fayetteville, North Carolina  •  3 months ago
      get out of dodge
    • JasonB  •  St Petersburg, Florida  •  3 months ago
      Did anyone actually read this article? From the comments, you'd think the article said Derrick Rose was as good as MJ. Obviously, no one compares to the greatness that was MJ, in any time. And for those who think he'd be average by today's standards... you're obviously too young to have seen him play. He was special by any account.
    • The  •  Minneapolis, Minnesota  •  3 months ago
      cant compare flower to jordan
    • Claudette  •  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania  •  3 months ago
      Its like everyone hit their head on a rockcomparing Michae Jordan with other basket ball players.There are no one who is playing ,played or will play can ever ,ever ever do what he did.
    • gt  •  Chicago, Illinois  •  3 months ago
      Most Yahoo sports writers really suck at their craft.
    • Darth  •  Chicago, Illinois  •  3 months ago
      O.K, O.K., O.K.,....We got it, rest D-Rose. HOWEVER, heres a more important issue for the NBA to consider. Mind you, I am a fan of the man, but DEAR GOD MICHAEL!! PLEASE SELL THE BOBCATS TO SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THE HECK THEY ARE DOING!!!No disrespect. You are my all-time favorite player, you are the G.O.A.T. It's just that management ain't your strong suit dude.MUCH LOVE THO!!
    • hybraz  •  3 months ago
      I have that hat!
    • John Blaze  •  3 months ago
      I don't begrudge Jordan or Pippen any ice. They were scrappers and basketball at the professional level is a BRUTAL game that the average couch potato/weekend gym warrior can't begin to appreciate. I think Jackson's strategy -- whatever "angry Chicago fans" thought about it -- paid off. Us Knick fans wouldn't be so angry if we had the fingers full of rings that Chicago got. I'll take Jordan sitting in an icebath courtside for half the game. Hell, (unless Lin continues this streak) I'll still take him, at his current age and condition.
    • Anthony  •  3 months ago
      Wow. An intelligent, non-judgemental article written by Kelly Dwyer. Sounds like you really did watch that Bulls run in the '90's. Now if you'd stop acting like the moral police in all your articles maybe I'll stop hoping you get hit by a train.
    • Manny  •  3 months ago
      What's there to compare?
    • PDX2010  •  3 months ago
      Hack "author" Kelly Dwyer sucks Chris "Glory Hole" Chase's infant cack in a Yahoo cleaning supply storage closet.
    • Dan  •  Toledo, Ohio  •  3 months ago
      No viable comparisons!
    • chris l  •  Tokyo, Japan  •  3 months ago
      How can you call someone out about not remembering something correctly when you cant even write it correctly?? Jacksons team put together a 19-0 run and beat NY by a point. So who won the game?
      • mamboman 3 months ago
        you are the winner! congratulations! now go make me a sandwich.
      • Sancing 3 months ago
        So it's a tied ball game and there is an extension of five minutes and Knicks won without Jackson making a single point. LOL.
      • Muggles97 3 months ago
        Jackson's team WAS NY
    • Joe  •  Grove City, Pennsylvania  •  3 months ago
      woah, this is cause for a tattoo celebration. , I'm getting a new tattoo to honor my girlfriend in a way that only a some great body art could express, So, I found this site name tattoo ideas , showed me how to download some tattoo fonts and create a temporary tattoo. Also, got some sick star tattoo designs for 2012. Awesome.
    • Hoka Hey  •  3 months ago
      I have only one thing to say -- 6 NBA title and 1 NCAA championship with the Game winner!!! When that happens, let me know...I love watching Derrick but I will never get tired of watching Michael hang in the air....
      • James S 3 months ago
        I have no idea what that has to do with this article...at all. They aren't trying to say Rose is Jordan...
      • Hoka Hey 3 months ago
        No they are comparing them---duh!!!
    • Payday  •  Surfside, California  •  3 months ago
      How dare jerry R. question the Zen Master?

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