Week 8 Fantasy Over/Unders: With trade winds blowing, could Matt Forte, others, thrive elsewhere?

Fantasy is a speculative game. Predict the future, and you look like a genius. Don't, and you're painfully human. Gazing into the crystal ball, here's our view on 10 intriguing over/unders for Week 8.

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The trade deadline is November 3. What rumored player would you like to see get dealt? Where? If shipped, what are realistic rest-of-season expectations? 

Brandon – JUSTIN FORSETT. This would make sense in the same way that everyone thinks it makes sense for the team to deal Steve Smith. This would be intriguing more from the standpoint of getting to see what a fully-featured Buck Allen can do. The USC rookie has certainly passes my eye test. And the fantasy RB position could definitely use a shot in the arm.

Dalton – STEVE SMITH says he'll retire before accepting a trade, so this is highly unlikely to happen, but a reunion back with the Panthers makes a lot of sense. The Ravens' season is effectively over, and Carolina badly needs a true No. 1 wide receiver. Smith's fantasy value would likely be similar to what it is now, but seeing him play meaningful games in December would be a much better way to finish off his career.

Andy – MATT FORTE is playing out a contract year for a non-contending team, he'll turn 30 in December and Chicago just drafted his likely replacement, Jeremy Langford. I'd love to see Forte land in a winning environment, possibly in Denver (or Carolina?), where he can make a deep postseason run. I'm not sure how much tread is left on the tires, but Forte is awfully good right now. There's no system in which he wouldn't thrive.

Scott – I’d like everyone back where they belong. Steve Smith back with the Panthers, Anquan Boldin and Torrey Smith back with the Ravens, DeMarco Murray back with the Cowboys. Michael Scott back at Dunder Mifflin. Peter Gammons back at the Boston Globe. Franco back on the Steelers, Jerry and Joe back on the Niners, Johnny Football back at Texas A&M. Johnny Marr back with The Smiths. Jack White back in The White Stripes. Sam back with Diane.

And for the love of all holy, can we get a tight end to Denver? VERNON DAVIS or MARTELLUS BENNETT, that would do nicely.

Brad – MARTELLUS BENNETT. The Bears are going nowhere fast and would be wise to deal a marquee component or three future draft considerations. Bennett would fit ideally in Denver. Gary Kubiak runs a two-TE system and current options Owen Daniels/Virgil Green have sloughed. Peyton Manning has a foot-and-a-half in the grave, but Bennett's rangy frame and strong red-zone presence could do wonders, especially with Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders around to alleviate pressure. If he lands in Denver, consistent top-10 efforts would be a certainty.

Liz – VERNON DAVIS. At 31-years-old he’s entering the twilight of his career, but still has enough left in the tank to produce for a team that might actually feature him. In three of the five games he’s been healthy enough to start, he’s averaged more than six targets, four catches, and 56 yards per outing. I’d like to see him replace Larry “Dropsies” Donnell in New York. The GMen could use another warm body on the field while waiting for Victor Cruz to return.

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Yahoo DFS Bargain Bin. What cheaply priced QB/RB/WR/TE will turn the biggest profit in Week 8? 

Brad – CHARCANDRICK WEST ($17). He socked skeptics square in jaw last week after notching 129 total yards and a score versus Pittsburgh. His Week 8 opponent, Detroit, is giving up 4.22 yards per carry and has allowed nine total TDs to the position. Another 100-plus total yards and a score are certainly attainable across the pond. Raise a cup of tea.

Andy – Gimme MATTHEW STAFFORD at $37, please. No way he doesn't deliver a useful line against a defense that's allowed 15 passing TDs and 265 yards per game via the air. Change at OC can't possibly hurt, either.

Scott – With Antonio Gates looking iffy, you better believe I want LADARIUS GREEN ($14) in my lineup. Baltimore's pass defense has not been good all year, and while tight ends haven't been that great against them, that's largely because of the opponents they have drawn.

Liz – ERIC DECKER ($25). He’s scored in four of his last five outings and closed out Week 7 with more targets than Brandon Marshall. He should continue to produce against the Raiders 32^nd ranked pass defense. I’m predicting a 5-68-1 stat line for the former Bronco in Week 8.

Brandon – CHARCANDRICK WEST. At $17, you have to like West's value, coming off a 129 total yard effort (24 touches) last week and facing the seventh-most generous defense to opposing RBs this week.

Dalton – DARREN MCFADDEN ($13). His matchup is hardly ideal against Seattle, but McFadden is in line for 20+ touches and runs behind one of the best offensive lines in football. There are 33 running backs more expensive this week.

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Conversely, what player, at any position, scares the living bejesus out of you in Week 8 DFS? 

Andy  – LATAVIUS MURRAY? No thanks. He's facing a Jets defense that allows just 3.4 YPC. It's basically an impossible challenge for a less-than-elite back. New York actually pushed LeGarrette Blount backwards last week, as he carried three times and lost three yards.

Dalton – ANDREW LUCK ($41). He's gotten just 6.7 YPA and has committed 10 turnovers over five games this season. While he's been better in fantasy terms thanks to volume and a bad Indy defense, Luck faces a Carolina secondary this week that's allowed just 5.8 YPA, five TD passes and an NFL-low 67.0 QB Rating. Luck remains pricey, but he's not a top-12 fantasy QB for me in Week 8.

Brandon  – ANDREW LUCK ($41). For all the reasons Dalton states (above), and more. I really don't think garbage time will save him this time.

Liz – DEMARYIUS THOMAS ($31). Green Bay has a disruptive defensive line that knows how to get after the quarterback. And their secondary has yet to allow more than one score to a receiver per game. Given what we’ve seen out of Peyton Manning so far this season, I think it’s Emmanuel Sanders – not DT – who will hit pay dirt.

Scott – You have to start RANDALL COBB ($29) in a seasonal league, but he's been dinged up in recent weeks and now he draws Denver's stable of studly cornerbacks. I'll invest elsewhere, thanks.

Brad – ODELL BECKHAM JR. ($34). Absurdly, he was targeted only six times last week. Hamstring? Poor coaching? Drunk-faced Eli? Whatever was to blame, ODB's limited presence was shameful. This week, another underwhelming line could be on the horizon. New Orleans' secondary is much better than most think. Delvin Breaux has surrendered a 43.9 catch rate to his assignments. A final tally around 70 yards without a score is entirely likely.

Matthew Stafford, who travels across the pond to face Kansas City in London, total fantasy points in standard Yahoo leagues (4 pts/pass TD, 1 pt/25 pass yds) 19.9. 

Dalton – OVER. This is a pretty lofty mark, but the Lions can't run the ball, and their defense can't stop anyone. Moreover, Stafford has played much better of late (and supposedly has a good rapport with Detroit's new OC), and the Chiefs have yielded 15 scores through the air, which is the second most in the NFL.

Scott – Leaning UNDER, not that I feel passionate about it either way. I suspect the initial focus will be offensive balance, and at least a token attempt at rushing the ball. Plus it's a screwball week, with the London trip and all. I'll look for more exciting things from the Lions after their Week 9 bye.

Brandon – UNDER. Don't like the set-up of the QB that has the most combined sacks/hits/pressures while be facing a KC defense with Justin Houston and Tama Hali, two of the league's top pass rushers, breathing down his neck. I see three turnovers in Stafford's future.

Another week, another highly sought after Dallas RB. Darren McFadden, plucked off waivers in droves, total yards against stingy Seattle 89.5. 

Scott – OVER, because I expect McFadden to play in all packages, run and pass. He'll get their on volume. Joseph Randle is doing all he can to play his way out of the team's good graces, and I refuse to take anything on spec with Christine Michael.

Brandon – OVER. Seattle has been one of the best rush defenses in the league, but I really don't think Dallas has any desire to try to beat the Seahawks with Matt Cassel's arm. I expect the Cowboys to try to ride Run-DMC behind that vaunted offensive line. His YPC clip may not look great in the wash, but I expect a workload in the 20-25-carry range and a few receptions thrown in will get him OVER this number.

Liz – UNDER. Maybe if Dez plays I’ll change my tune, but as it stands Dallas is a one-dimensional offense that the Seahawks defense should make quick work of. Seattle is giving up an average of 83 total yards to RB1s per game. I don’t think DMC has the strength or the quicks to juke past the Seahawks run stoppers for more than that.

Brandin Cooks, who has been the bane of many an owners' existence, receiving yards home versus a beaten up Giants secondary 74.5.  

Liz – UNDER. Save his Week 5 performance at Philadelphia, he's totally underwhelemed and is currently outside of the top 24 receivers in fantasy (both in PPR and standard formats). He's averaging just 5 catches per game and has four red zone targets on the season (compared to Willie Snead's seven). I don't see him hauling in more than six balls for 61 yards this Sunday.

Brad – UNDER. He's likely to draw DRC in coverage this week, a corner who's surrendered a 56.9 QB rating to his assignments. Gut says a 6-65-0 line will adorn the box score.

Scott – UNDER. I'm always betting against Cooks, who doesn't command targets like a true No. 1 receiver. And even if he ekes over that yardage total, he's unlikely to score a touchdown. The Saints usage tree is a spiderweb, expansive and inclusive. It's a killer for fantasy.

Eddie Lacy, hopefully well-rested and mostly healed following the bye week, total yards in a battle of undefeated teams at Denver 69.5. 

Brandon – UNDER. I do think that Lacy emerges from the bye looking much better than he did going into it. But this is a tough matchup - only Jamaal Charles and Adrian Peterson have topped this mark against Denver this season. Lacy has another tough one vs. Carolina in Week 9. I think it's a good time to be a Lacy buyer, because his schedule gets pretty easy from Week 10 on, and Lacy always gets better as he hits the holiday season.

Liz – UNDER. The Denver defense is also well-rested and coming off a bye. They're so balanced that they're going to make every piece of this Packers' offense WORK. Given the time share we've seen in Green Bay's backfield I'm not sold that Lacy will get the touches necessary to produce.

Brad – UNDER. Mike McCarthy claims Lacy's ankle woes are behind him off the bye week, but I'm skeptical he'll suddenly bounce back. This is Denver after all, a defense that's allowed only two RBs to achieve the above number. Locked in a murky timeshare with Starks, he's completely avoidable.

With Antonio Gates unlikely for Sunday's tilt against the Ravens, fantasy points scored by Ladarius Green in Baltimore 9.9.

Brad – UNDER. Green has been surprisingly productive with or without Gates, but the matchup doesn't warrant fuzzy feelings. Gary Barnidge is the only TE to eclipse 65 yards and score against the Ravens. I'm banking on a heavy volume for Keenan Allen and Stevie Johnson.

Dalton – OVER. The Ravens have allowed the second fewest fantasy points to opposing tight ends, but that has plenty to do with the opposition they've faced. Moreover, Green lines up in the slot often, and Philip Rivers has averaged 57.0 pass attempts over the past three games. Baltimore's secondary has played extremely poorly this season.

Andy – OVER. Baltimore's pass defense is a gift. The Ravens have allowed 13 passing TDs and 8.4 yards per attempt. With Philip Rivers putting the ball in the air 60 times a game, I'm expecting 50-plus yards and a score from Green.

Charcandrick West, off a 129-total yard, 1-TD breakthrough against Pittsburgh, standard fantasy points scored in the follow up versus Detroit 12.9. 

Andy – Sure, I'll take the OVER. West has very clearly claimed the featured role, plus he owns the inside-the-5 carries for KC. The Lions haven't exactly shut down anyone's run game; they've allowed 123.4 rushing yards per game and a league-high 10 rush TDs.

Dalton – OVER. He's already emerged as Kansas City's clear workhorse, something few backs can say these days. The Lions have struggled against the run, and West should surpass 20 touches.

Scott – OVER. West has a very high floor for touches, and he was in fine form last week. Detroit's rushing defense is below average on a per-play basis, and they've handed out a bushel of ground touchdowns.

Fill in the blank. _________, under 50-percent owned in Yahoo leagues, will have everyone in a frenzy to pick up after Week 8 (Any position).  

Scott – They're not even playing this week, but I want you to jump ahead of the rush and add MATT JONES and KARLOS WILLIAMS now. They're the most talented backs in their respective cities, and have game-changing potential for the second half. If you need a player from this week, keep an eye on Austin Seferian-Jenkins, who may return, and just in time, for the Bucs. That offense desperately needs a second passing threat next to Mike Evans.

Brandon – NATE WASHINGTON. Not too many bought on his huge performance last week (still just 18% owned). But once he has another nice game (and people start to realize he just might not be an anomaly), I think they will be much more willing to take the leap of faith. Washington has hit 100 yards in both games with Brian Hoyer at QB this season. And with Arian Foster out, DeAndre Hopkins is going to be the guy that draws all the defensive attention. Very easy to imagine Washington benefitting from playing opposite Hopkins.

Liz – STEVIE JOHNSON. He’s been dropped in loads of leagues following a hamstring injury in tandem with Antonio Gates’ return. Now that he’s healthy, has shaken off some rust, and the veteran TE is sidelined once again, I expect Johnson and Rivers to continue where they left off earlier in the season.

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