Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:07 pm EST
This
would be much more interesting if it involved Hines Ward and/or Bart Scott, but
it's an attention-grabber nonetheless.
Steelers punter Mitch Berger, who holds for Jeff Reed's placekicks, claims that Ravens special teamer Frank Walker spit in his mouth yesterday. From the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:
"The guy dove, he tried to take out Jeff's knee," said Berger. "I went over there and he got up and he spit in my face -- and they called it on Jeff for pushing him!"
[...]
"I tried to get in the middle to separate him but he got in my face and spit right in my mouth. He spit right in my mouth. I'm still trying to spit that ... out. I was talking to him, trying to separate everybody and he spit right in my mouth."
Ick. Frank Walker, that is unsportsmanlike and unhygienic. Not to mention unmanly. I know it's a heated rivalry, and I know you were probably upset that you lost, but come on. That does not give you the right to force someone else to accept your bodily fluids into an orifice of theirs. Who are you, Jerramy Stevens?
And besides that, if you're going to spit on someone, do it to someone who can fight back. You're going to spit in the mouth of a punter? A 36-year-old punter, at that? Where is your pride, sir? What's Mitch Berger going to do to retaliate, kick Frank Walker's possessions in a direction that's inconvenient to him?
Sadly, two-thirds of the people involved in this little dust-up (or saliva-up, as it were) kick for a living, so I don't think this is likely to be an ongoing feud. If it involved Ward, Scott, or other people who see physical combat regularly, we might have something to keep an eye on in the future. Berger's only course of action, really, is to tell on the guy.
Gracias, Pro Football Talk.
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Steelers continue to rule the north and the Ravens continue to show what classless losers they are. Ravens please quit crying and accept that you will never live up to Steeler standards. See you in Tampa!!!!!!!!!!
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According to the NFL Digest of rules:
"A receiver is deemed to be in possession of a catch when both feet touch down in bounds while the receiver demonstrates control of the football. Should a receiver make a legal catch of the ball with both feet in bounds in the end zone, a touchdown shall be awarded even if no part of the ball was deemed to break the plane of the goal line while in possession of the receiving player."
Sentence two of that refutes your claim that as far as the rules go it wasnt a TD. I'm sure the NFL offices will make a statement on it within the week.
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Last night at NBC, we watched the same four replays Walt Coleman saw at M&T Bank Stadium in Baltimore in the final minute of the Steelers-Ravens game. You've seen it by now: With the ball at the Baltimore four-yard line and the Ravens up 9-6, Ben Roethlisberger scrambled and eventually found Santonio Holmes just over the goal line in the end zone. Holmes caught the pass very close to the goal line, with the ball appearing to be outside the goal line at first look and his feet to be in the end zone. The head lineman, Paul Weidner, standing at the goal line on the far sideline, peered around a player as he tried to see the play, and he ruled the ball did not touch the plane of the goal line. All the ball has to in this case is touch the imaginary plane of the goal line while the player has two feet down. It was agonizingly close, but Weidner ruled the ball should be placed at about the three-inch line.
The magnitude of the play can't be overstated. If the play is upheld, it's fourth-and-three-inches, and Mike Tomlin has the biggest call of his coaching career to make -- go for the touchdown to win the game, knowing he might end up turning it over on downs, or kick the gimme field goal and play for overtime. A Pittsburgh win would clinch the division title. A Baltimore win would tie the two mortal enemies with two weeks to go.
When we first saw the replay at NBC on one huge, high-def monitor, it appeared to back the call on the field of no touchdown, or make the call inconclusive. But it became like a Where's Waldo thing. The longer you looked at it, the more you could convince yourself the ball, solidly in Holmes' grasp, did pierce the imaginary plane by a matter of inches. But indisputable? By 10:30 p.m., I bet I'd seen it 25 times. And it was the classic kind of play that, if the linesman had called it a touchdown, I don't think Coleman could have overturned it, and if the linesman had ruled it short, I don't think Coleman could have overturned it. My brethren at NBC -- Keith Olbermann, Dan Patrick, Cris Collinsworth and Bob Costas -- thought it was inconclusive. All of them.
After the game, Coleman told a pool reporter that Holmes "had two feet down and completed the catch with control of the ball breaking the plane of the goal line ... When he gained control of the ball, the ball was breaking the plane, and then he fell into the field of play. But to have a touchdown, all you have to have is a catch, which is the two feet down, possession and control of the ball breaking the plane."
I called NFL vice president of officiating Mike Pereira, who'd spoken with Coleman and the replay assistant following the game. Now, I have to tell you that in my jobs at NBC and Sports Illustrated I have occasion to speak with Pereira nearly every weekend about a play or two from the games, either to clarify something for the Football Night in America show or for my column. Pereira calls them the way he sees them. My experience is that Pereira does not whitewash a bad call. And last night, I asked him point blank if he thought there was indisputable visual evidence that the ball broke the plane of the goal line. "Yes, I do,'' he said.
I watched some more. I saw Holmes catching the ball, and at the moment of the catch, the absolute moment, it appears the ball is piercing the plane by inches. But is it a lock that the ball crossed the line? No. I watched it a few more times. I don't see it. I see the likelihood of the ball breaking the plane. I do not see the certainty. The replay rule mandates indisputable visual evidence to change a call -- if 20 people are watching a play, they see the same thing. This was not one of those plays.
This is the continuing problem with the replay system. I think officials need to realize what "indisputable'' means. It doesn't mean likely, or most likely. We still see calls like this, year after year. I'm sure we'll hear cries to abolish replay in the coming days, which is ridiculous. I just wish the rule would be applied exactly the way it was intended. As, I'm sure, do the fine people of Baltimore this morning.
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low life scum is what thay are,i hope we play them in the playoffs and kick there ass 3 times in one year
HOW SWEET IT IS!!!!!!
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About the actual article now, I don't care what someone does to you it would be better for the ravens player to take a swing then to spit on someone. Classless, but hey isn't every raven player the same way. To put it out there I actually hold respect for someone like lewis cause he tells it like it is, plus hes a hell of a player still.
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The problem here is that the refs didnt have all the rules clarified. Holems clearly has posession of the ball, with 2 feet across the goal line. By rule, that's all he needed. Granted, its a vague rule, but for the refs not to know it and explain it on the spot is bad enough...then you have people with national audiences like Peter King allowing more controversey to arise, when there really shouldnt have been any in the first place. I understand that the discussion of whether the ball broke the plain will still remain the hot topic, but in reviewing the ACTUAL rules, it's irrelevant.
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Go Steelers Go!!!
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