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Of course, this "something friendly" would also be unethical and possibly a gross violation of NFL rules, but that's not the astounding part.

What's astounding is the notion that Bill Belichick would do anything out of friendship, or really, out of any motivation other than winning. I've always seen him as the type of guy who would insist on being the banker in Monopoly, so he could steal fake money.

The action in question is the Patriots' trading of Matt Cassel to the Kansas City Chiefs for a second-round draft pick. Why is this the source of controversy? Because everyone assumed the Patriots could get a lot more for Cassel than a lonely second-rounder, and because the guy Belichick did trade Cassel to is Scott Pioli, his old pal who helped assemble the Patriots championship teams.

The thinking is that Belichick traded Cassel to the Chiefs at a discount as a favor to his old pal Pioli. At least three people have outright accused Belichick of it, or at least hinted at it: Jay Mariotti compares the trade to Spygate and thinks Roger Goodell needs to take action, Albert Breer talks about the head-scratching going on around the league, and Tim Graham calls the trade "inexplicable."

Graham also reports, via Chris Mortensen, that the Patriots could have gotten a first-round pick, the 12th overall, for Cassel in a three-way trade that would've also involved Jay Cutler, but we'll get to that a bit later. In the meantime, here's a nutshell version of the two different ways of seeing the Cassel-to-KC deal.

1) The "This was an honest trade" side. Bill Belichick would never do anything to hurt his own cause, Cassel still had a lot to prove as a quarterback and the Patriots desperately didn't want to be on the hook to Cassel for $14 million this season, especially if they believe Tom Brady will be healthy.

2) The "Oh, this trade is stinky" side. There's Belichick's reputation as a man who, shall we say, is willing to bend the occasional rule, The Belichick/Pioli relationship, the reports that the Bucs were willing to go as high as a first-and-a-third rounder and not only did Kansas City get Cassel cheap, but the Patriots threw in Mike Vrabel as well.

The stumbling block for me is trying to believe that Bill Belichick did something for the good of some other football team. He's going to give some other team a discount, because he wants to do someone a favor? I just don't see it.

This is Bill Belichick we're talking about here. He'd cheat in a game of Connect Four against a poor orphan child. He didn't become the coach he is by doing people "favors."

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  1. suzyspinnerbait
    1. Posted by suzyspinnerbait Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:50 pm EDT

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    Tho I AM a diehard Pats fan, I do agree that Coach Belichick's, motus operandi, ALWAYS has the Pat's best interest
    in mind. We may not see ALL that is involved in the K C deal right now, but I'm sure that the Pat's as a team and their salary caps will NOT suffer due to this deal..........................
    HEY BILL
  2. suzyspinnerbait
    2. Posted by suzyspinnerbait Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:50 pm EDT

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    tho i am a diehard pats fan, i do agree that coach belichick's, motus operandi, always has the pat's best interest
    in mind. we may not see all that is involved in the k c deal right now, but i'm sure that the pat's as a team and their salary caps will not suffer due to this deal..........................
    hey bill
  3. Jim Z
    3. Posted by Jim Z Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    The deal may have been ill advised if Cassel is as good in another team's system as he was in the Pats system - or a stroke of genious if Belicheck thinks he is a one-hit wonder and wanted the salary cap hit out so he can go "shop for the groceries" but he'd NEVER do another team a favor at the detriment of his own team. Possibly a win-win type of trade but his first loyalty is...to himself (his org)
  4. Some Guy
    4. Posted by Some Guy Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:52 pm EDT

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    This league is all about business and if you dont like the people trying to make a deal across the table then you walk away. It freed up cap space, they have 4 picks before the first 50 which is fantastic and three of those picks will be signed at a low cost which gives the team more cap flexibility. First round picks are great and all, if they pan out in the end, hate to pay a bust a ton of money. Good move.
  5. Earl of Funk
    5. Posted by Earl of Funk Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:30 pm EDT

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    the trade was good for both parties
  6. Matt
    6. Posted by Matt Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:32 pm EDT

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    MJD, the term would be "lowly" second-rounder, not "lonely" second-rounder. Unless you know for sure that the player has no friends.
  7. Big Willo
    7. Posted by Big Willo Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:52 pm EDT

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    As a diehard Chiefs fan, i would have been upset had we paid more than a 2nd rounder. He did a decent job, but he was behind a great O line and a good scheme with Moss and other recievers. Thigpens numbers were almost the same, more TD's more INTs behind a horrible line and a defense that put them in a lot of bad positions
  8. Sherry L
    8. Posted by Sherry L Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:44 pm EDT

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    trading a 7th round QB who has only started one season for a second round pick is "fishy"? people are dumb sometimes.
  9. Dale
    9. Posted by Dale Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:34 pm EDT

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    Why has everyone rated Matt Cassell as worhty of a first round pic? The man started his first full season at any level in years and cannot be considered consistent based on one year. In New england he had a staff that set him up to be successful with a solid offensive line and a good receiving corps plus a defense that did a good job of keeping the field position postiive to operate in. The media hype around players and coaces (Todd Haley) who have one good season is laughable. Once defenses figure out Cassell's habits and preferences will be when he proves how much of a quality Qb he is. Todd Haley is a loose cannon with limited leadership skills who will most likely fall flat on his face as a Head Coach. the Chiefs have done a good job of being arrogantly predicatable. every move they have made has been exactly as the media had reported it days or weeks before any of the Chiefs leaders mentioned anything. If Cassell and Haley can get this team to .500 next year then they can be as cocky as they want because that is about the limit of the talent and coaching on that team.
  10. ballbright
    10. Posted by ballbright Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:46 pm EDT

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    i don't get why people think it's a bad trade...
    new england clears cap space, eliminates any kind of qb controversy, moves vrabel (who while a fan favorite, is losing a step or two), and gains a high 2nd round draft pick (early 2nd round picks are favored by all teams around the league for their typically high "bang for the buck" value)...
    cassel (if he were smart, and thinks he can continue to at least play to the level he did last year, and isn't too afraid of being injured) will probably not sign a long term deal, hoping the chiefs will franchise him in back to back years, then sign the long term deal...guaranteeing him more money...
    the patriots still have brady, and kevin o'connell whom they drafted last year, and by all accounts lights it up in practice...
    i just don't understand why anyone would think there was even the remotest amount of "collusion." the whole thought process is dumb. new england made out on the deal, k.c. made out on the deal...end of story...
  11. sam spade
    11. Posted by sam spade Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:12 pm EDT

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    Tree; think tree. Some one from Belichick needs to do well. This will help his tree concerns. he's doing this to make him look good; not the Chiefs Pioli or Haley. If the chiefs are successful, then his tree won't be the garbage or fraud that it is today.
  12. jason m
    12. Posted by jason m Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:29 pm EDT

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    Isn't the point of the franchise tag that if someone beats that deal, you receive a FIRST round pick? Why would they accept a second rounder? Shady as usual from the classless pats. Who else was offered this deal? For example, I bet the Lions would have thrown in maybe a fourth or third rounder if it meant they could still use the No 1 pick on a different position.
  13. Steve
    13. Posted by Steve Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:16 pm EDT

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    Good deal for both, Cassel is still uproven on a losing club. And trust me, if Bill could have really gotten the 12th pick in this years draft, he would have taken it. The Broncos probaly wanted Cassel signed to a long term contract prior to any deal being done. This way, its Scots problem to resign him. I like the move.
    Emotionally, i will miss Mike, he was a great player while he was here, he will be missed.
  14. jason m
    14. Posted by jason m Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:29 pm EDT

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    Dale, "everyone" hasn't rated Cassel worthy of a first round pick. The Pats did by using the franchise tag.
  15. Bill L
    15. Posted by Bill L Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:08 pm EDT

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    I'm a life-long Pats fan, and although at first disappointed, I can't help but give Bill the benefit of the doubt when it comes to roster moves. Everyone was sorry to see Ty Law, Lawyer Malloy, Willie McGinest go. Most of us got over that when they never really performed up to high expectations elsewhere. Samuel I'm less certain about, although he was selfish and determined it was all about the payday. From a Pats perspective, Bill's earned the benefit of the doubt as far as I'm concerned. As for the writers smelling foul play, stop fishing for something that isn't there. I have to believe BB has a better idea of who's going to and who's not going to be available on the draft board late first round/early second round, and how they fit with the team plan. Besides, you don't really think BB doesn't have plans for the nearly 18 million in cap room the trade just created. Sit back and wait for it...his next move will be worth it.
  16. POGUE MAHONE
    16. Posted by POGUE MAHONE Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:32 pm EDT

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    LMAO...Bellidick doesnt do ANYTHING unless it helps him from start to finish . Cassle probably has something wrong with him ...lol. Vrable hes older than dirt (in football years)....lol
  17. AngeloM
    17. Posted by AngeloM Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:04 pm EDT

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    I agree with some others posting here. A high second round pick is valuable. In fact, I don't know if Cassell was worth much more than that, given his short contract and upcomng salary demands if he plays well. Vrable tips the trade in favor of the Chiefs, but by no means was this a steal. I think both teams got something good from this.
  18. TS
    18. Posted by TS Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:08 pm EDT

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    omg what a bunch of dreamers,,,,,,, here is the best one i heard yet in a sports bar over this trade.... """" bill b is so good and smart he has built a winning team with so loyal of players that they are willing to be traded so they can help throw games when the team they are traded to play the pats"""".... i guess this person voted for obama also.... i am a pat's fan forever no matter the lineup or the coaching staff.... and i thought i had heard it all untill i heard this dribble yesterday.... some people's thoughts are just downright stupid,,,, and i told him so.....
  19. Dan G
    19. Posted by Dan G Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:35 pm EDT

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    Good Lord! You people need to stop the hate with these articles! Why don't you write your acuatory email once the Buc or any other team step up and say they were willing to deal what you jackass scribes say he was.
    Get over your hate.
  20. Dolphins Are Cheaters
    20. Posted by Dolphins Are Cheaters Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:55 pm EDT

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    Jason you're showing people how stupid you are again.
  21. POGUE MAHONE
    21. Posted by POGUE MAHONE Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:32 pm EDT

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    I agree 17 some Pats fans thoughts are just plain stupid........to think that Bellidick would do something that was wrong or underhanded or to even cheat is just plain ...ummmmm......O never mind ..........move on....
  22. Cleese
    22. Posted by Cleese Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:19 pm EDT

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    The chess game is just getting started. Belichek has a winning master plan just like in the past. The writers will be eating their shorts, just like in the past.
  23. brian b
    23. Posted by brian b Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:03 pm EDT

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    Is that matt cassell talking to Billi in the above picture. Wny is he wearing a Raider Andrew Walter jersey?
  24. brian b
    24. Posted by brian b Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:03 pm EDT

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    Good morning Patsfan.
  25. brian b
    25. Posted by brian b Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:03 pm EDT

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    I guess that's blue jersey but it looks black.

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