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    Bruins’ Brad Marchand gets 5-game suspension for Salo hit; agree or disagree?

    Brad Marchand of the Boston Bruins has said of his clipping-penalized hit on Sami Salo of the Vancouver Canucks: "If that's an illegal hit, I'll take that out of my game."

    Say goodbye to the self-defense hip-check, Mr. Marchand. The NHL and Dept. of Player Safety head Brendan Shanahan suspended the Bruins forward for five games on Monday, citing Salo's concussion, Marchand's previous run-ins with the NHL and their belief that there was nothing defensive about the hit:

    Do you agree or disagree with five games for Brad Marchand?

    From the NHL:

    Boston Bruins forward Brad Marchand has been suspended for five games and will forfeit $152,439.02 for clipping Vancouver Canucks defenseman Sami Salo during NHL Game #598 in Boston on Saturday, Jan. 7, the National Hockey League's Department of Player Safety announced today.

    Marchand, who received a two-game suspension in March 2011, is classified as a repeat offender under the terms of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Accordingly, he forfeits his salary based on the number of games in the season (82), rather than the number of days (185). The money goes to the Players' Emergency Assistance Fund.

    The incident occurred at 18:47 of the second period. Marchand received a major penalty for clipping and a game misconduct.

    Marchand will miss games Jan. 10 vs. Winnipeg, Jan. 12 vs. Montreal, Jan. 14 at Carolina, Jan. 16 at Florida and Jan. 17 at Tampa Bay. He will be eligible to return Jan. 19 at New Jersey.

    Here is Shanahan's explanation for the video impaired:

    "Marchand skates towards Salo along the boards. Rather than delivering a shoulder-to-shoulder check, Marchand drops down dangerously low into Salo's knee area, lifting Salo up and over to cause an injury."

    … "While we understand that in certain circumstances, a player may duck or bail instinctively in order to protect himself from an imminent, dangerous check, we do not view this play as defensive or instinctive. Rather, we feel this is a predatory, low hit delivered intentionally by Marchand in order to flip his opponent over him.

    "Further, Salo is not coming at Marchand with great speed or with a threatening posture. He does nothing to indicate that Marchand is about to be hit illegally or with excessive force. To be clear, we do not consider this to be a defensive act where there are no other options available to Marchand.

    "As a matter of fact, the exact scenario played out 16 seconds earlier, as Marchand was able to deliver and absorb a clean shoulder to shoulder check to Salo. While this hit was a clean play, Marchand shows clear frustration. That may have led Marchand to believe that Salo might seek retribution, that is not a defense for clipping a player."

    Again, you have to respect the job the NHL and Shanahan do with these videos. They clearly show it was a clip, as Marchand went for the knees. They clearly show Salo wasn't attacking Marchand in a "predatory" manner, but that one could safely assume Marchand was approaching Salo in such a manner. They show the interactions between the two seconds earlier (although, again, Marchand could claim he was concerned about the second hit after he had a go at Salo earlier in the shift).

    But more to the point: They're clearly attempting to draw the line between what Marchand did here and what he did against Daniel Sedin during the 2011 Stanley Cup Final and what a player like Mike Richards did in defending himself with an elbow when Pat Kaleta ran him last season.

    There still is room for questionable reactions to illegal attempts to injure. They just don't see Marchand having been in that situation, despite the case stated by the Bruins and the player.

    Five games is five more than I would have given him. I saw it as an attempt at a hip check that missed the mark. It's something he's done before.

    Maybe's the Neanderthallic, Scott Stevens fanboy approach to the play; but when I heard five-game suspension, I think about Rene Bourque chicken-winging Nicklas Backstrom. I don't think about this play — and I'm also not suspending to the injury, but understand why the NHL does.

    Shanahan's explanation was completely reasonable. The punishment was well-argued. We just see the play differently, and would have left it at a game misconduct.

    But for all you predatory hip-checkers in the NHL — what, all five or six of you left? — the bar is set.

     
    • Big Gordo  •  Delta, Canada  •  4 months ago
      Shut up, Winnipeg. You said yourself that he hits him at the "lower thigh", which, having looked at a freeze frame of the point of contact is still a little generous. Marchand is 5'9" and is almost down on his knee when he makes contact with the 6'3.5" Salo. It's absolutely realistic that he could make contact at the knee, which he does. He then stands up straight on the follow through, just to make sure Salo goes #$%$ over teakettle. Comparing this to a clean hip check is both ignorant and erroneous. Complaining that this will take hip checks out of the game is also completely misguided. Marchand is a complete dirt squirrel on the ice, having already seen a suspension and a fine for dirty hits in his short three season career. He has absolutely no intent of delivering a clean hip check as any kind of a "hockey play", in fact he ignores the puck just to line Salo up. There is absolutely no justification for what he did. It is a strong message sent by the league with the intent to try and stop a promising young player from making headlines for the wrong reasons. Now go find another hobby to spend the drudgery of an 8 month winter in Winterpeg on.
      • m b 4 months ago
        squirrel's are cute.....I believe the animals you're looking for are weasels or rats...
      • The Chipper 4 months ago
        Well put.
    • KumaKaori  •  4 months ago
      @Wysh. I like the big suspend, sure 3~4 was probably more than enough, but a Stellar hip check is one like Kyle McLaren would throw on guys coming into his defensive zone (sharks fan, sue me) Closes on the guy, and nails him, at least, in the hips to just -end- his forward momentum.

      This hit, Marchand goes way low in a position where even a clean hipcheck wouldn't gain him what he needs. It looks like clear they're also suspending on the retaliation for the frustration following the previous hit. To which I can only say: retaliation -always- gets caught. Stupid move by Marchand :/.
    • Buddy  •  Kelowna, Canada  •  4 months ago
      You know these Boston fans and coach Clod might be on to something. If everyone started "protecting" themselves in this manner than the size of players in the league might go down. At least while the big ones are out with concussions, fractured vertebra and such. I'm sure Boston's position wouldn't change if it was Ape Boy Chara that was out indefinetly as a result of a similar hit delivered to him. Right?
    • Mustache of Kes  •  4 months ago
      I wonder if CAM NEELY thought that this was as awesome of a hit as Claude Julien did
      • Bluefins 4 months ago
        You must have seen a different video than I did, since he does not hit him in the knee. While none of us will ever know what Marchand was thinking, but I would bet a lot that he was just trying to upend him and not trying to blow out his knee.

        Someday you Vancouver (and Montreal and Buffalo...) fans will realize that whining and crying about everything will never win you a cup. If your team had not been such a bunch of pansies trying to draw calls in the Final, you would have had a better chance of winning. (Not saying you would have won, since your teams sucks even strength, but at the very least you would have gotten out of their with some respect.)
    • James F  •  4 months ago
      I'll live. Maybe a little much, but I can't disagree with Shanny's points. The bad part will be if this is used as precedent in a much lighter circumstance.
    • Mike  •  4 months ago
      Bruins put a 9 spot on the board without Marchand the other night and have a soft schedule durin his absence. They'll be fine. On the other hand, how epic of a Stanley Cup Finals would a rematch of Boston and Vancouver be? Please make it happen!
      • Andre Laverdiere 4 months ago
        The refs put away the whistles in the Finals. So it's another Bruins Cup.
      • Royknwsall0331 4 months ago
        Mike.... That is wishful thinking!! It wont happen. Red Wings and Bruins in an epic final that goes 7.
      • Hinkley 4 months ago
        naw... canucks had their shot...id rather see us play a different team in the finals... bruins vs. wings/hawks would be awesome...
    • DanL  •  4 months ago
      I didn't know what to make of this hit at first but I think shanahan did a good job of explaining it. Plus the "16 second earlier hit" makes Marchand look more than guilty
    • Scott  •  New York, New York  •  4 months ago
      Brendan Shanahan suspended the Bruins forward for five games on Monday, citing Salo's concussion, Marchand's previous run-ins with the NHL and their belief that there was nothing defensive about the hit:

      what bothers me right there is citing a concussion in giving him a 5 game suspension. the hit, and the outcome of the hit MUST be viewed separate of each other. There are so many variables that lead to players getting hurt. An identical hit that concusses one player can cause no harm what so ever to another player. Clean hits hurt people some times, dirty hits don't hurt people some times. i don't believe at all that a punishment should be more severe based on if the victim is missing time, since that is caused by many variables, such as tiny variations in angles, split second differences in timing, slight differences in height or weight of a player, millions more... If salo happens to rotate a little bit more or a little bit less and lands on his knees does marchand even get a game misconduct? being fined thousands of dollars and getting suspensions is going to be based on luck in many cases if they are decided by injuries and extent of injuries.
      • Dima 4 months ago
        Agreed. My problem with this is citing an injury that isn't even caused by the hit itself. If Salo had a blown out knee, I'd agree with five games, but he doesn't. Injuries caused by flying elbows are one thing; those caused by a player landing on the ice are another.
      • goalie888 4 months ago
        Scott, your reasoning is logical, and you have every right to view the world that way, but open your eyes. That's not how the world works. If a drunk driver kills someone, in some states it is possible to charge them with murder. That same person could get only a fine and minimal jail time if they caused minimal injuries to other people. Injuries in a car accident are exactly the same as those you described in an on-ice collision. They are entirely up to chance. In our society, you are judged by the outcomes of your actions. Period.
      • Sean M 4 months ago
        Goalie888 is right. What Marchand did is negligence and there is what is called the 'thin skull' rule. "if he had a thicker skull he wouldn't have been concussed" is not a defense, in law or in sport. Look it up if you don't believe me.
    • shnitzel  •  4 months ago
      the same hit was given to marchand by ramond (i think) and by hamuis on lucic in the cup finals so to all the morons suddenly outraged...sweep off your own porch first
      • pat e 4 months ago
        Wrong
      • Devin L 4 months ago
        Right...Mason Raymond hit in the finals is IDENTICAL
      • shnitzel 4 months ago
        thanks Devin, I knew I was right.
        sucks to be you Pat E
    • eunoia44  •  Winnipeg, Canada  •  4 months ago
      Not suspending him would have been ridiculous. Anyone who thinks this wasnt suspendable has never played competitive hockey. Marchand was only trying to do one thing - hurt him. Salo was basically skating backwards. He could easily end a career like that.
    • magikalgroove  •  Richmond, Canada  •  4 months ago
      I love the fact that they point out Marchand's reaction SECONDS earlier to the exact same situation. Looks like you've been outed Boston, too bad Pappy Campbell isn't there to protect you guys anymore eh?
    • DE  •  4 months ago
      For everyone calling this a hip check you need to wake up. A hip check is when you use your hip on a player coming at you with the puck. Marchand ducked underneath Salo using his shoulder on the back of Salo's knee. This was a deliberate intent to injure and he is lucky he only received 5 games.
    • peterthegreat  •  Miami, Florida  •  4 months ago
      The referees have called it and the league have looked at it and Mr. Marchand isn't the first to suffer and he wont be the last. The new rules are there to stop the dirty play and if his hip check!! caused Salo pain and suffering suck it up and don't do it again.
    • Dan  •  4 months ago
      Dangerous hit, the legality of which could be questioned. But Shanny did what he had to do, which was set a precedent. I like the suspension, while I'm sure others don't, but now we know, don't do that.
    • Jake Coneh  •  Homewood, Illinois  •  4 months ago
      People comparing hits to what people used to do "back in the day" make no sense. Look at Darien Hatcher breaking Roenick's jaw, I'm sure that would get a lengthy suspension now and rightfully so. Old time hockey was great but when it messes guys up permanently, that's not cool
    • Bucky Dent  •  Tampa, Florida  •  4 months ago
      Dirty, dirty hit. Marchand was angry and tried to hurt the guy plain and simple. The suspension is well deserved.
    • Rodney  •  Portland, Oregon  •  4 months ago
      Hog wash this time the league has ruled wrongly ,for obvious reasons.! Marchand was just playing hockey ,in this case and the league and shameahand are playing politics!!!
    • Ryan  •  Edmonton, Canada  •  4 months ago
      so basically every hit from the mighty ducks movies was illegal? #$%$ hollywood
    • Ben  •  Pleasanton, California  •  4 months ago
      Is biting a finger a defensive act?
    • Don Squeek  •  4 months ago
      The real shame of the game was that Lucic didn't get to play. It would have made the whole game more interesting. As for this hit, its worthy of the suspension.

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