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Thu Jul 03, 2008 11:00 am EDT

The Budgets and Finance meeting is a good place to fight

By MJD

The NFL's rookie symposium is designed to teach 1st-year players life skills, so that they can behave in a way that won't damage their future.

Naturally, this is the place where Buccaneers rookies Cory Boyd and Aqib Talib chose to brawl with each other.

Pro Football Talk is reporting that Talib, the Bucs' 1st-round pick, and Boyd, the Bucs 7th-round pick, had been exchanging words all day, and they finally got down to the fisticuffs in the "budgets and finance" meeting.

Fighting at the rookie symposium. That's superb. I know I'm probably supposed to be gnashing my teeth at the disrespectful nature of these young punks, but I just can't. It's too funny. I don't think it's sad at all ... I think it sounds like the most awesome budgets and finance meeting of all-time.

Of all the places to fight a dude, you pick the NFL's rookie symposium, where you're supposed to be learning to be a responsible adult. Brilliant. That's like going into a Narcotics Anonymous meeting, sitting down, tying off, and pumping some smack into your veins right there. Then everyone starts looking at you, and you look back and say, "What?"

Even Pacman Jones and Chris Henry made it through the rookie symposium without fighting anyone. This does not paint a bright picture for your futures, Boyd and Talib.

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  1. YourOpinionSucksTryMine
    1. Posted by YourOpinionSucksTryMine Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:33 pm EDT

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    They were just arguing about how many bills to use when they "make it rain". Boys will be boys. The newly reformed Adam (the CB formerly known as Pacman) Jones could maybe stage an intervention for them. At least, he could give them some pointers on the subject of their argument.
  2. Scott P
    2. Posted by Scott P Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:30 pm EDT

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    In response to #3. Golden!
  3. busdontrunhere
    3. Posted by busdontrunhere Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:15 pm EDT

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    Awesome! Couldn't wait till the parking lot? What a couple of idiots. Must be doing their teams proud.
  4. John
    4. Posted by John Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:50 pm EDT

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    Buncha comedians posting comments I see
  5. Al S
    5. Posted by Al S Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:58 pm EDT

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    It is funny !!! More money than they know what to do with, and they are fighting? Haaaa..
    I am disabled and trying to live on next to nothing....but I have what these spoiled children don't and can't buy...
    pride, self-esteem and the knowledge to know right from wrong.......I actually feel sorry for them!!!
  6. Tom T
    6. Posted by Tom T Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:59 pm EDT

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    His name isn't Pacman any longer.
  7. jamesbrown1010
    7. Posted by jamesbrown1010 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:27 pm EDT

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    "You can take the punks out of the hood, but you cant always take the hood out of the punks!"
    -How do you even know where theses guys are from? What if they were raised in the suberbs would they still be thugs? Or is this just arrogant people who think they are better than people based on where they grew up? Thats some garbage, that statement and just shows how oblivious you are to the real world, probably just afriad of things like equality. I bet if Chris and Jake Long were fighting people would not be making thug comments.
  8. paul b
    8. Posted by paul b Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:18 pm EDT

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    Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with #4. Although it could be a combination of privilege and hood-ness. Perhaps Talib's spoiled attitude grated on Boyd's nerves. Wasn't it Talib's reputation to be something of a hothead/delinquent in college?
  9. lees summit heating and coolimg supply w
    9. Posted by lees summit heating and coolimg supply w Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:58 pm EDT

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    income means little about how ur raised .i've owned rental property in da hood for 13 years and rental property in an area where house sold foe 200,000 plus and kids acted like thugs in both houses so its a thug thing
  10. paul b
    10. Posted by paul b Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:18 pm EDT

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    Interesting note, though, #4, Talib apparently is from an area of Richardson that deals with drug and gang-related violence. So it appears to be a pair of hoodrats jawing at each other. Typical, considering it's the direction the NFL is headed.
  11. CH
    11. Posted by CH Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:48 pm EDT

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    travisf-- I don't know whether or not Boyd and Talib are actually from the hood, but it should be pointed out that most cities have a "bad part of town", aka a "hood". Median household income of the zip code in which the two men grew up doesn't speak to whether or not they're punks from the hood. I grew up in a town with a median household income of about $30K or so, and we still had a "hood".
  12. erich f
    12. Posted by erich f Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:57 pm EDT

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    wow. billy ray i see the anger over losing a girl friend to a black dude hasn't faded any. in all serious i have to agree with them being silly unintelligent in there actions which the n word does mean . they play in a Sport of kids bumping there heads together would it matter anymore if it were to men in the boardroom . testosterone rules the day in many environments. and i would have to say the last place anyone is going to tell them to tone it down is football. would have been nice if it was on the field of play . but i truly believe it was more a chance to see if you can lay the other dude out .
  13. Dog
    13. Posted by Dog Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:03 pm EDT

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    how many drug tests is talib going to fail in the nfl since he failed several in college when he didn't have any money/
  14. jconley101
    14. Posted by jconley101 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:31 pm EDT

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    silly hill billy bigeots, shut up with your worthless white power trash talk. I'm white and dont want to see morons resort to such filth
  15. Rhyno
    15. Posted by Rhyno Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:57 pm EDT

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    i don't see what "hood" they grew up in, or what pacman has to do with this. they were team mates fighting each other, they were not making it rain in a strip club, or pulling a "9" on some poor fool on the block. you can't go around branding people punks or hoodlums because they decide to take a swipe at each other. i think that they could have chose a better setting, such as the practice field and not infront of league reps. i live in a fairly "hoodless" community and everyday i see people who look like they've had a decent upbringing and earn more than the average median income, who still behave like rabid jerry springer show rejects. i'd ask you to pay more attention to self than looking for decency in pro athletes and celebrities.
  16. Keith
    16. Posted by Keith Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:23 pm EDT

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    BillyRay, dirtybird...what erich f says, probably holds more relevance in today's attitudes you both possess and convey here, but my comment was intended to "enlighten" both of you, and all other ignorant racists who choose to make comments like yours. You should actually pay me, for providing you with something that you probably wouldn't ever read in a book or research out, because you're too stupid, and uneducated!
  17. Smitty
    17. Posted by Smitty Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:14 pm EDT

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    Cut them both!
  18. oconp
    18. Posted by oconp Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:43 pm EDT

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    "i bet if chris and jake long were fighting people would not be making thug comments."
    a. they're not. that is what makes your argument invalid. and while you can't judge a person's character by where they grew up, you can judge it by whether they have ever gotten into a fight in the middle of a class designed to help them manage their finances. check for both. maybe they should have been paying attention so they wouldn't end up washing cars for a living in 5-10 years.
    travisf - talib was born in cleveland, i don't have any idea when he moved to texas.
  19. Kasey T
    19. Posted by Kasey T Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:21 pm EDT

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    Honestly who really cares about these thugs???
  20. paul b
    20. Posted by paul b Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:18 pm EDT

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    He moved to Richardson in the 8th grade.
  21. K Ray da Prince
    21. Posted by K Ray da Prince Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:34 pm EDT

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    Oh, and by the way, Aqib Talib is not from the hood, Richardson has no hood. It's upper-middle class. Talib is a spoiled brat acting like he's hard. And we all know that spoiled brats transcend all races, genders, etc.
  22. Jason J
    22. Posted by Jason J Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:29 pm EDT

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    Being a white guy, I feel Billy Ray has set us back a few hundred years, or maybe evolution has passed him by, Billy Ray probably doesn't even have thumbs, he also made the comment that the black man is going to steal somebody's wallet. Well Billy Ray, hate to break it to you but the biggest THIEVES in the world are crusty old WHITE men! Billy Ray please evolve!
  23. Tater
    23. Posted by Tater Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:57 pm EDT

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    Man. I love the yahoo comments sections of these articles. There is a general rundown of how it always goes...
    #1 always has to say FIRST and something unrelated.
    #2-#3 also tend to say FIRST even though they were actually beaten out by #1 who posted just before they did.
    #4 actually talks about the matter at hand
    #5-#8 Flame whatever #4 has to say
    #9 Says something totally unrelated to o anything and is ignored.
    #10 through infinity make it a personal issue in which everyone forgets what the article was about in the first place.
  24. dirtyjbyrd
    24. Posted by dirtyjbyrd Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:43 pm EDT

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    Hey keith uneducated I'm in school something you probobly never finished please dont respopnd as if you know how to speak well you cant even spell you said I quote "attitudes you both posses and convey here" I'm sure you probobly heard someone on sports center say convey so tried to use it at least you can type but you cant spell We dont "possess anything wrong it's just a opinion I hate everyone tying me in with allblack people there is a big difference between me and those others of my color. I go to school at Stanford I am a exemple of the diference.
  25. pipelayer
    25. Posted by pipelayer Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:12 pm EDT

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    Okay wasn't the story about two guys fighting where in the world did all this race talk come from.. .Stick to the topic. These were just two young guys who weren't acting there age. They'll learn their lesson and move on. It has nothing to do with race or anything.. Its ashame that a basic conversation has to turn into a race forum.

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