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I hate writing this kind of post, because there's really no way to not sound like a whiny homer. But that's all right with me. I'll be a homer today. I've got reason to whine today.

Philip Rivers was left off the Pro Bowl roster.

You may not be as upset about this as I am, and I realize that there's a certain segment of the population out there that doesn't recognize Philip Rivers as the pure-of-soul, kind-hearted ray of sunshine that he is. And that's okay.

But fair is fair. Rivers hasn't missed a game and he's got the highest quarterback rating in the league. He's the only guy with a rating over 100.

And yet, six other quarterbacks are going to Hawaii and Rivers isn't? Nonsense, I tell you.

And I'm perfectly willing to play the Pro Bowl Complaint game fairly. If you want to add someone to the roster, you have to subtract someone, too. No problem. So that Rivers could be added, I would subtract ... well, take your pick, actually. I'd take Rivers over any of the three AFC quarterbacks that got the nod.

As I may have mentioned previously, Rivers has the best quarterback rating in the league. Maybe you don't like that stat, and you'd rather judge him on something more tangibly related to the game, like touchdown production. He leads the league with 28, tied with Drew Brees, and I'd also like to add that Drew Brees threw the ball 119 more times to get his 28 TDs.

So maybe you're thinking that the touchdown production and QB rating are inflated because Rivers is some kind of dink-and-dunk quarterback who turns into Kordell Stewart if he's asked to throw the ball farther than seven yards. And you'd be incorrect. Again, Rivers is the best in the league there, averaging 8.23 yards per attempt, tied with Tony Romo.

Meanwhile, Brett Favre is on the roster, with his sub-Cassel QB rating of 86.5 and his league-leading 17 interceptions. Interceptions are still bad, right? Those still count? Favre's 6.8 yards-per-attempt also ranks 20th in the league. Yeah, that says excellence.

Of course, I realize that the decision to add Brett Favre to the AFC Pro Bowl roster was made on the day he was traded to the Jets. I'd argue less about the inclusion of Cutler or Manning, but I'd still argue. Rivers is better than any of them by almost any statistical measure. Other than yards, that is, and Rivers is still pretty comparable there, ranking fifth in the league.

Yards, really, are the crux of the issue. Not the yards themselves, necessarily, but the reason Rivers doesn't have as many as Cutler or Manning: the fact that his team wasn't as good, he didn't have the ball as much and didn't have as many opportunities. Rivers is out because his team's relative lack of success is being held against him.

And also because Brett Favre is a gunslinger, he's like a kid out there, he's a grizzly veteran, he loves playing the game and because Wrangler makes Real. Comfortable. Jeans., blah blah blah.

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  1. agbayanifan
    1. Posted by agbayanifan Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:46 pm EDT

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    the pro bowl doesnt mean anything. no one watches, and they dont even play for real. its not like baseball where they play for home field advantage and no one cares, its they play for no reason and no one cares. yes rivers deserves it over brett, but it doesnt even make a difference to anyone but philip rivers, and i doubt he even cares that much unless he gets more money. besides, half the roster is going to drop out anyway so he still might make the team.
  2. KP
    2. Posted by KP Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:54 pm EDT

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    Agreed, even though I am a huge Warner fan, that was pure BS that Rivers was left out of the Pro Bowl.
  3. robertk1984
    3. Posted by robertk1984 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:45 pm EDT

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    mjd...you are a knob and have never liked brett favre....and you just try to come up with some kind of story to include brett favre in it. phillip rivers might deserve to go to the pro bowl because of his stats. last time i checked....stats dont mean crap....its winning ball games and thats not what phillip rivers has done this year. Favre might not have all the greatest stats this year but hes winning ball games. just like cassell. sorry...you need to get over this one.
  4. vdub
    4. Posted by vdub Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:11 pm EDT

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    wah wah wah. somebody call the wahmbulance
  5. Butt Pirate
    5. Posted by Butt Pirate Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:03 pm EDT

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    I'm going to hit you with a little something, MJD, and you might not like it at first, but it's coming nonetheless: F*@k Brett Favre........AND Phillip Rivers! That's right. Screw them both. At the time of the draft, I wouldn't have thought it possible, but Rivers has actually turned out to be a bigger douche than Eli Manning. It's crazy, I know. My stance on Favre has always been the same (hatred), especially after he turned all of last summer's sports television into soap opera. His interception record is rapidly becoming an untouchable mark, right up there with Cy Young's 511 Wins.
  6. Catfan
    6. Posted by Catfan Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:52 pm EDT

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    You missed the one stat that is most important to me: Won/Lost record. Last time I looked, the Chargers were going to be at home baking Christmas cookies when the playoffs start.
  7. IchiDeath
    7. Posted by IchiDeath Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:22 pm EDT

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    Favre could have 117 interceptions and he'd still be voted in by the fans.
  8. dudelabowski
    8. Posted by dudelabowski Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:49 pm EDT

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    They still have Probowls, but no one cares. Why not just name a "Best of " team but not play a game that is not entertaining and players don't really try in anyway....As Les Bian would say, can't we all just get along???
  9. Mike P
    9. Posted by Mike P Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:23 pm EDT

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    Right on ! Get off of Bretts' case. Brett has earned the right to be out there, I'll agree that Rivers should be there as well. His time will come and he'll have many more to put on his resume. Get a life MJD!
  10. The Thrilla in Vanilla
    10. Posted by The Thrilla in Vanilla Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:01 pm EDT

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    "I realize that there's a certain segment of the population out there that doesn't recognize Philip Rivers as the pure-of-soul, kind-hearted ray of sunshine that he is."
    FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
  11. Alfredo R
    11. Posted by Alfredo R Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:04 pm EDT

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    I loved this post, absolutely well done blogging. Seriously man, thank you for this. Brett Favre has kept his reign of terror (okay, that is slight hyperbole) over the NFL for too long now. For all those who say that the Chargers are out of the playoffs? Actually they need to win next week and have denver lose, then beat denver the next week to send JAY CUTLER (and his Pro Bowl nod) to the kitchen. I hate how people just write what they THINK is right, rather than the stats (like MJD did with his, biased, but informed post.
  12. veerapan88
    12. Posted by veerapan88 Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:32 pm EDT

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    Really Catfan? Because last time I checked they're still in the playoff race. And maybe if you got your head out of that enlarged anus of yours you'd understand that the Chargers haven't been losing because of Philip Rivers.
    MJD's right, Favre did not deserve this one, it was marketing at its best. Yes, Favre may have lead the Jets to more victories but you can't just pinpoint it on him. And Robert...stats mean everything.
  13. Foertsch
    13. Posted by Foertsch Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    Rivers was killed not just by playing on a bad team, but one that has so spectacularly failed at living up to its lofty expectations.
  14. IchiDeath
    14. Posted by IchiDeath Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:22 pm EDT

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    I bet when the Jets/Dolphins and Chargers/Broncos are playing for playoff spots, Rivers won't chuck a game ending pick into triple coverage...
  15. hustletron
    15. Posted by hustletron Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:39 pm EDT

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    I got $10 that says Ed Hochuli goes to the Pro Bowl. If he hadn't screwed the Chargers in that game against Denver the Chargers would be in first and Rivers would be going to the Pro Bowl. The NFL is bullsh*t. East coast bias at its worst.
  16. Aaron
    16. Posted by Aaron Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:11 pm EDT

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    brett farve and the dallas cowboys makes espn unbearable to watch inbetween sundays
  17. Schnabeltier114
    17. Posted by Schnabeltier114 Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:59 pm EDT

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    Wow, three weeks ago there was talk about a 4th MVP for Favre and now he’s “undeserving” despite being part of a team that’s rebounded from a 4-12 season to a possible playoff contender (and at one time, a serious Super Bowl possibility)! On the other hand, Rivers and the Charges are taking a step backwards this year. It’s not that different than seeing Warner and Brees make it in the NFC while Romo and Hasselback have an off-season. I know, MJB, that your disappointed just like many other football fans that their favorite player didn’t make the team, and I know that it’s your job to criticize everything about the NFL, but you might want to give this one a second thought. Besides, Favre will probably decline to play like he has in years past so Rivers can go to Hawaii in a provisional slot and taunt the NFC quarterbacks like a school bully all that he wants.
  18. Colin
    18. Posted by Colin Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:28 pm EDT

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    Well said, MJD. Well said.
  19. Football Fan
    19. Posted by Football Fan Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:47 pm EDT

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    Being a San Diego ticket holder I can tell you he does NOT deserve a pro bowl invite. The fact is he has turned the ball over and cost this team at least 3 games. He has no pocket awareness and makes Johnny Unitas look agile. His footwork is terrible. 3 and out is a typical drive. Moving the chains in long sustained drives does not happen. He is glacially slow and can't get to the edge to hand the ball off on stretch plays. The only reason he has ratings is because he has the best and most varied receiving corps in football. Too bad the quarterback's immobility has, and will, keep this team from ever utilizing it's weapons.
  20. Pokerface
    20. Posted by Pokerface Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:02 pm EDT

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    If it was only about winning. Then I guess Chad Pennigton should go. His team was 1-15 last year. So take your winning percentage argument and shove it. Brett is going because hes, well, Brett. Im a big Brett Favre fan, but he should not be going. Phillip got screwed, and all you haters know it. Just like the NBA. Its a popularity vote, note a deserving vote.
  21. JohnnyBlue
    21. Posted by JohnnyBlue Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:39 pm EDT

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    I'm a Jet and Brett Favrah has no biz being in the pro bowl. But there is one very important stat that has been neglected and is often overlooked in these discussions: wins. Say what you will about Rivers' skills, the guy is a loser. That team is too talented and that offense has too many weapons for them to be below .500. Little Boy Sunshine needs to score some points and get some wins before arguing to put him amongst the leagues best. Favrah's team is leading the division and has put up points most of the season.
  22. Philm00r
    22. Posted by Philm00r Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:10 pm EDT

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    The whole winning games argument is irrelevant. The last time I checked Philip Rivers isn't expected to win games all by himself. If that were the case then why are the coaches and other players even getting paid? Plus if winning played such a big role in Pro Bowl voting then Matt Cassel, Chad Pennington, and even Matt Ryan all have an argument. I'm completely unbiased toward Favre and Rivers. Both are equally annoying to me, but the fact of the matter is Philip Rivers has had an outstanding season and deserves to be recognized for it.
  23. R C
    23. Posted by R C Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:45 pm EDT

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    Favre cam in to the AFC at a dis-advantage due to the type of offense. Pennington went to another offense that was similar. So he should have been able to make a better team out of the Dolphins especially since the Tuna is there holding the reins. Now on to the fact of Favre deserving or not. Probably not, but look at what the Jets have done with a QB that didn't know the system and didn't even practice with them until after the first pre-season game. I know everyone likes the TD numbers, and the QB rating number, but what about two of the oldest QB's in the league with the 1 and 2 spots in COMPLETION PERCENTAGE. Yes Favre has some INT's but remember he is still learning individual receiver's and how they route. He probably shouldn't be going in place of a few others, but for all he has done for the NFL, Packers and now the Jets he at least needs to be considered. Depending on his last two games performance, and maybe the play-offs, MAYBE, just MAYBE another shot at MVP for doing what he has coming in to a team that was a foreign language. At the start of the season very, very few people gave him or the Jets much chance to go further than the Jets record of last year. Yes I am a Packer fan, a Favre fan, now learning of some of the stars on the Jets roster and the AFC. Just like no one last year even thought about the Giants in the SB, let alone beat NE. It COULD happen foe the Jets this year. Merry Christmas everyone
  24. mudvayne_bonesaw
    24. Posted by mudvayne_bonesaw Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:30 pm EDT

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    Roethlisberger deserves to go more than Favre, Cutler or Rivers
  25. JustWinBaby
    25. Posted by JustWinBaby Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:47 pm EDT

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    mmmmhhhhhhhmmmnnnnmmmmmmmm. HOW DO THOSE SOUR GRAPES TASTE BABY. Maybe if he led this "powerhouse" to a better record than 6-8 he would be in the pro bowl.

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