Why should the Redskins, Indians or Braves have to change their names or moniker? For generations it didn't bother anybody, now all of a sudden it does. People need to lighten up.

I wish ppl stop knocking the Indians for there name ... there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.
If during the 7th inning a Cowboy would come shoot down Chief Wahoo or have a general come tell him to leave Progressive Field and push him out west... yes that maybe offensive....But the Indians do nothing to offend Native Americans in anyway.

Still though.. I think anyone has to agree that the Redskins is somewhat racist.. I mean, come on! Hahaha..

Chief Yahoo es mas macho!
GO BLUE

who cares?

I still think the Wahoo one looks like he's in blackface. (see old post)

What's next? Do away with the Marlins or Orioles logo because it might offend some jackass at PETA?

Finally !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope to see Wahoo gone in the next couple years. I love my tribe to no end even after Kerry Wood violated me yesterday. But I won't wear Wahoo, my great-grandmother was a full blooded Cherokee and it's just not right to make caricatures in these modern times. How can we have Jackie Robinson Day and Chief Wahoo?

@Rexdeaz: Yes, Chief Wahoo, Chief Knock-a-homer, and the Redskins are reminders of Native American history. They would be a footnote without these wonderful reminders, especially since they pulled those Bugs Bunny episodes that were wonder reminders of times past. And sports teams should always serve as as reminders of genocides. wow
@8 inches:"Why should the Redskins, Indians or Braves have to change their names or moniker? For generations it didn't bother anybody, now all of a sudden it does. People need to lighten up."
Yeah, right on. no one cared for decades. Except the Golden State Warriors removed an offensive cartoon depiction of Native Americans 45 years ago. Oh, and Stanford changed mascots completely due to complaints. Oh yeah, and an Illiini student can no longer wear red-face. But yeah, why the sudden concern?

i hate both caps. really, dude, only homers would buy these.

the stars and stripes chief wahoo rulez!
totally gonna buy one.

Comparing 'Fighting Illini' or 'Irish' to something as disparaging as the 'Chief Wahoo' logo and 'Redskins' is missing the point by a mile.

Chief Wahoo's the worst. For a true reminder of history, Google "Cleveland Indians logo" and look over the entire sequence of logos, going back decades. Also, read up on the differing accounts on picking the name "Indians" itself.

Mat M: Your post smacks of sarcasm. I'm simply saying that everyone, all of a sudden, wants to be politically correct. If changes are made to just one team then any or all teams would be subject to changing their logos or mascots. Would the Padres be next because it may offend Christians? What about the San Diego State Aztecs or the Florida St. Seminoles? Do you see where I'm going with this? It gets out of hand. People need to chill.

Remember the "Redmen" of St Johns? Renamed the Red Storm, sure not a good name but they got it right by changing their team moniker away from something that IS indeed offensive. Make no mistake, naming your team the Indians, then having a mascot / logo that is a caricature of that race, bringing out certain traditions and attributes and making light of them stems from an offensive place. The name Indians itself is not as offensive as Redskin / Redman, but that doesn’t make it benign.

Only homers wear caps that still have stickers/tags still on them. I don't need to know what size your melon is...
#16, SDSU Aztecs got rid of their mascot warrior about three years ago(?) because it was 'too fierce and a misreprestation of the Aztecs'. But the mascot never did kill anybody at any of the events I went to be it a basketball or football game.

The name change should be Cleveland Ohioans and their logo should be Lebron James. And make it a caricature. Or the Cleveland Christians and their logo could be a Cross. Or the Cleveland Popsicles and their logo could be a popsicle because that wouldn't be offensive. But popsicles might not like that. Or they could be the Cleveland Rocks and their logo could be a rock or a bunch of musical notes.

How is the logo even remotely an offensive character? Granted the name might offend eight or nine people, but since when is a huge smile and big eyes an offensive native american sterotype?

My dad (a lifelong Tribe fan that had tickets to game 5 of the 1956 world series) several years ago explained to me that the origin of the name "indians" came from the fact that one of the original players was a native american. That being said, I feel that it is high time that the cleveland baseball team change their name. Times and social conscience has changed, and if native americans and others say that the name is offensive, then really, what is the Big Deal about changing/not changing the name? I would float the idea that the Cleveland Tribe be the new name, with a baseball that has a band around it with a feather be the new name and cap symbol, but I would consult with representatives of the native tribes and ask for their input, including suggestions from them about what they think the name should be. Cleveland does not have a lot of natural features to point to - there are a lot of storms coming off the lake, especially in the spring and summer, but names like lightning, thunder, storm, etc have gotten snatched up by other teams. You know just like the cleveland browns became the baltimore ravens (and then won the superbowl, art modell roast in hell) the "new" browns kept the team history etc, a newly named cleveland baseball team could keep the Indian's history and records, etc. It's the right thing to do, so just do it.

Ok, Lets see Why should cleveland change there name for, Lets look at this crazy situation ok, You complain about the redskins, But yet you have the cleveland browns ? And you have the red sox, white sox, Now dont you think thats being unfair to green sox, black sox, or another color ? You have the Blue jays, but no robins, you have the cardinals, but no crows ? You have the Yankees but yet no Rebels...You have the Angels but no Devils isnt this mixing religion with sports ? But yet you can have the Twins, isnt that a lil-sexual ? So if redskins is so offensive what about the Reds ? Then you have the Pirates~and by the way they have been playing, if i was a pirate i would definetly protest, laughing...You have the Diamondbacks isnt that being unfair to other snake types also ? You have the Giants isnt that insulting to midgets ? You have the Braves isnt that offensive to scary cats ? You have the cubs but no bears ? You have the Athletics-isnt that offensive to those who are not Athletic ? Sure this post is stupid maybe a lil-funny, strange.....BUT SO IS all this stupid talk, crap about teams using the word Indians, redskins, so on, Its not to pay any disrespect to them, but more to honor them. You can take any nic-name of any team and in some twisted way find it insulting to some one.. GET OVER IT.

jw, and others, really, if you're going to post at least show a basic level of intelligence. by the way the Devil Rays DID drop the "Devil". We're not talking about green sox or crows, we're talking about people that have a political and cultural character, and their wishes should be listened to, considered, and acknowledged. Maybe the reason why the Tribe is so CURSED is because of their name. I for one would love to see a new name and a fresh approach. someone above said something similar to big deal so america did a few bad things - DUDE, it was not a few bad things. Try small pox in blankets, full scale military operations killing women and children indescriminately, wholesale moving of groups of people away from native lands to harsh conditions, repeated violations of treaties - all summed up in 1 word: Genocide. Yes, the american government committed GENOCIDE against all native groups in the US territory. Take me out to the ball game? What's the big deal? Please.
Go Tribe. Go my favorite baseball team the Cleveland (whatevers it doesn't matter I still want them to succeed and win a world series). And Go Cavs. And go Browns. You know, MANY Cleveland fans were offended when LeBron wore that frickin Yankees cap to the Tribe v. Red Sox playoff game. Fans shouting "Take it off". How does it feel to be SO OFFENDED? Ya, a Yankees fan wouldn't agree or understand, but that doesn't change how offended people from Cleveland were. How did it feel? How do you think it feels? Just get a better name, get the bull pen fixed and start winning some games!

Gotta get one of those 08 hats before there all gone, man thats sweet!
The cheif is here to stay, get over it!

Well number (23) Odysseus Homer , You can say what you want, But dont you think also that there are several other nic-name of teams that could also be offensive to people, Such as the word Yankees, Browns, Angels, Toss in Atlanta Braves also, National could be offensive to some, Pirates also, When and where was it ever stated that the word Indians, or chief Wahoo was used to insult any culture or any one...They named Cleveland the Indians due to the fact of the History of the Indians living in the area, as in away to honor them, the history of cleveland. I think we have alot bigger concerns in this country then wasting time arguing, fighting over a nic-name of a pro-team. So Lebron wore a N.Y. Hat, Big Deal, Who hes playing for. Wheres his loyalty at. Every ones differant in who they like cheer for, Yes im a Indians fan, been one since 1953, And just because im a indian fan, doesnt mean i hate every other pro team or dont cheer for another pro baseball team also. Heres a great new Nic-Name for Cleveland, Laughing,,,How this the Cleveland Steinbrenners~~~Hes from Cleveland, We could use a Huge money bag as our new logo...Go with Green Uniforms with Dollar signs on them. (oh wait George Steinbrenner might be affended by that)~~but who cares he hates cleveland any way...laughing

go und fighting sioux...