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Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:25 pm EDT

Who wants Jamario Moon?

I don't think teams are coveting Jamario Moon(notes) at a rate concurrent with his skill set.

This has been, more or less, the story of the summer for me. Whether we're overrating Hedo, underrating Lamar Odom, or sleeping on the Magic, I've seemed to be at odds with the way things have gone down during this offseason.

I'm OK with that. I've been at odds before, and the odds eventually proved me right, or something. I think they were traded for Drew Gooden(notes) and Larry Hughes(notes).

And though the Heat tendered Jamario Moon a qualifying offer, it was a miniscule one worth a fraction of his 2008-09 salary. I can understand Miami not wanting to complicate cap matters beyond 2009-10 as they divine a way to surround Dwyane Wade(notes) with a winner.

The rest of the league? I'm disappointed in you.

Perhaps it has to do with the way Toronto Raptor fans would groan as Moon lined up his three-pointers before he was traded to the Heat last year. Sure, he got a little shot happy, and his overall three-point percentage (35.5) is right in line with the NBA average.

But the groans just got out of hand, almost as if they were just a way for Raptor fans to keep themselves entertained. You could do a lot worse than an average three-point shooter lining up for a 24-footer. Someone needs to send tape of those groans to whoever runs the scoreboard during Clipper games. Then they'd be doing some good.

The rest of his game? Come on!

He's 29, in his prime. The very definition of solid. The very definition of average, because while his offense may fall a little short of the mark, his defense on small forwards works, dammit. It works!

He starts breaks, because his rebounding is very good for a small forward. The man is a tremendous defensive rebounder, he doesn't turn the ball over, and he's quite good at finishing on the fast break. A team desperate for easy buckets, even if this guy isn't going to be confused with Chris Mullin any time soon, would do well to plug Moon in at the start of the second quarter.

And take him off a team that isn't in love with the three-pointer, and his attitude toward the shot could change. It's kind of hard to tell a player to lay off the 25-footers when your starting center or Daequan Cook(notes) (5.3 attempts per game last year, in 24 minutes!) are chucking away.

I just don't think, even in this economy, that this is someone barely worth the bi-annual exception. This guy can play, he should retain his skill set for a few more years, and he could make a team that knows what it's doing very, very happy.

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  1. Muthu S
    1. Posted by Muthu S Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:39 pm EDT

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    Poor apollo 13...how quickly u became our martyr...
  2. Vittorio De Zen
    2. Posted by Vittorio De Zen Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:53 pm EDT

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    Man, I completely agree. I got very annoyed at other Raptors fans during his time here. The team had problems, and Jamario had weaknesses, but he was very solid when he was playing here on a minimum salary.
    He missed some jumpers and he didn't drive to the basket much, but this stuff doesn't outweigh the fact that he was guarding athletic 3's very well almost every night, and having to cover for Jose by guarding quick 1's some nights too. It was also a luxury to have a good rebounder at the 3, given Bargnani's penchant for, um, not rebounding.
    I've kind of been selfishly hoping that other teams don't nab him and Bryan Colangelo can find a way to bring him back as a backup.
  3. A Guy
    3. Posted by A Guy Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:00 pm EDT

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    I think the only people that value him are fantasy basketball players.
    I would like for the celts to sign him, though as you said, he won't come for the bi-annual exception (and he deserves more), so he's not going to come.
  4. A Yahoo! User
    4. Posted by A Yahoo! User Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:02 pm EDT

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    I don't have a doubt that the Celtics would pay more than the bi-annual exception for Moon, if they could.
  5. rafterman
    5. Posted by rafterman Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:03 pm EDT

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    As a Raps season ticket holder, KD, lemme explain: it wasn't that Moon's percentage wasn't average, it was that he invariably shot at times when he had teammates who had far more open looks. Or when he had an open path to the hole himself, and would instead take a jumper. "Basketball IQ" has become a cliche, but seriously, Jamario has shown himself to have very little common sense and feel for the game. Great hops, great athleticism, and just not very smart. Too bad, he was a fan favourite here for a little while...
  6. KneeJerkNBA
    6. Posted by KneeJerkNBA Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:17 pm EDT

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    It's definitely odd that Charlie Villanueva just got 11 mil and nobody's interested in Moon on the cheap. It's like these GMs forget that players need to defend.
  7. Ricky C
    7. Posted by Ricky C Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:29 pm EDT

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    just watch paul pierces eyes light up when he sees this clown guarding him....theres a reason this guy got his first chance with toronto after bouncing around amateur leagues for years....he takes possessions off, takes horrible and badly timed shots, and is just a poor competitor in general
  8. Lance
    8. Posted by Lance Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:30 pm EDT

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    I like Moon but his basketball IQ is horrible. He passes when he shouldn't and shoots at the most random times. I like his attitude and athleticism but you need the brains. Poor guy I hope someone gives him a chance.
  9. K NEL
    9. Posted by K NEL Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:33 pm EDT

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    I think his basketball IQ is fine. I mean you know how many players pass up a open lane for a jumper? Hmmm let's see there's Turkoglu, Rashard Lewis, Mike Dunleavy, Quentin Richardson, etc. I could go on and on Jemario is just underrated. The heat will keep him and/or trade him to land boozer. But they seriously need Jamario to back up Beasley when they eventually move Beasley to the 3.
  10. HopsForMe?
    10. Posted by HopsForMe? Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:37 pm EDT

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    GIVE HIM SOME PLAYING TIME!!! Heat please take him back...
  11. Travis
    11. Posted by Travis Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:53 pm EDT

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    I'm with you on this, too, KD. You keeps it real. (Although, we don't need him in Portland.)
  12. tricka
    12. Posted by tricka Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:59 pm EDT

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    i too hope that miami keeps him but business is business and even moon understands that even though he wants to stay here he knows the way things work
  13. mcwelk
    13. Posted by mcwelk Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    starting center or Daequan Cook IS chucking away
  14. MAX_IN_MISSOURI
    14. Posted by MAX_IN_MISSOURI Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:34 pm EDT

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    Did Kelly Dwyer just say something positive about someone who is not on the Lakers????? Wow
    Still disagree with most of what he says, but he is right on about Moon. That guy is seriously overlooked by ppl around the league. I'd love for the Cavs to try and pick him up
  15. JustLikeItIs
    15. Posted by JustLikeItIs Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:35 pm EDT

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    Moon to MAGIC..is what i see.
  16. Matt
    16. Posted by Matt Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:45 pm EDT

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    I'm gunna agree with everyone saying that Moon deserves a chance with a team that has a role for him. I'm a season seat-holder for the raptors and when ilook at his time here, we never really had a defined roel for him so he ended up a little misguided. YES he's not the brightest player on the court but honestly...you can't question his heart, his determination OR his defensive abilities. I think the majority of ppl understand that he is a solid, solid pelayer who fills a need and does so with that trademark smile on his face cus he loves the game and deserves for a team to give him some time.
    Oh, and the only reason i really posted was because i wanted to try and convince Ricky C...that arrogant doorknob who posted a couple back...that Jamario Moon is ANYTHING but a poor competitor and there IS a reason he got his first chance with Toronto after bouncing around; the kid oozes athleticism, has a great attitude and a better heart. And how many guys earning what he earns CAN guard a guy like Paul Pierce? I'd say he didn't do a half bad job, but our overall defensive play sucked so he was hung out to dry along with every other player on the court.
  17. Matt
    17. Posted by Matt Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:47 pm EDT

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    oh, and i'm gunna ask that everyone ignore the spelling mistakes in that post...i've never been a fan of proof-reading hehe
  18. ......
    18. Posted by ...... Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:48 pm EDT

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    when he was on the raptors why not chuck up 3's shooting 35%? The rest of the team was terrible and him shooting 3's probably made them lose by only 15 instead of 20.
    If I was Olympiakos or Macabi Tel Aviv, I'd pay this cat a few bux to come play. Excellent rebounder, pretty good defender and just overall solid. His effort was there more than you guys would think. If you want to look at a lack of effort, see Jose Calderon's defense. Moon is not a superstar that can play a full game both ways effectively but having to spend a lot of extra energy on D because of teammates' missed assignments, would definitely bring down his offensive game a bit.
  19. Scott D
    19. Posted by Scott D Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:50 pm EDT

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    Moon, as a player is solid. There's no doubt about that. No one was groaning his rookie season, but when he came out his 2nd season showing relatively NO improvement from the offseason, people started to open their eyes. He became a lot less effective in his second season, don't get me wrong he had some great plays in the mix of that. Should he be signed somewhere for a couple mill a season? Sure. But as Gerald Green has seen, being athletic only goes so far, when you show a lack of commitment to improving in the offseason GM's take notice, and not in a good way (again Green knows this all too well).
    If Moon can sign on somewhere even the Heat, he needs to comeback with an additional skill set. Ideally imrpoving his ball handling, because as everyone knows if he can get himself to the basket, he can finish... its just getting there that is hard in a half court set with lacking handles.
  20. Prince Clairvoyance
    20. Posted by Prince Clairvoyance Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:04 pm EDT

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    Apollo 33 goes to....
    The bobcats.
    I'm calling it now.
  21. Seborn Y
    21. Posted by Seborn Y Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:08 pm EDT

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    I agree, I think Jamario Moon is underrated, but it wouldnt make any sense for the heat to pay more money for him at their current state. With already being over the luxury tax, and trying to sign Lamar Odom and trade for Carlos Boozer, it wouldnt be smart to pay more money for him right now. With Beasley moving to the 3, and the possibilty of lamar odom and boozer coming to miami and james jones resigning, there wont be much playing time, and or need for Moon with the heat. I think Moon is a great player, and I would like to see him stay with miam, but like with Haslem, miami has to do what they have to do to win a championship, and have Wade sign an extension. It wont get you anywhere in this league keeping players who are unproductive on your team because you like them. It's business.
  22. J magic
    22. Posted by J magic Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:15 pm EDT

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    I think this guy has potential to be like Ariza I say the lakers nab him if they lose odom or work a sign n trade with odom and him.
  23. BK
    23. Posted by BK Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:32 pm EDT

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    Kelly, you're right on point with this story. I'm a Miami Heat fan and I was shaking when I heard that he was a free agent. I thought we would've lost him by now cause we don't really have any $$$. I'm so happy no one is taking notice of him. This guy is a poor man's Shawn Marion (although I beleive his Jump shot is a little better and at this point in his career, he is a better defender). He's extremely athletic and a perfect role player with a perfect ATTITUDE. A love the comparisons to Trevor Ariza.
  24. MJSF
    24. Posted by MJSF Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:36 pm EDT

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    J.Moon = Scottie Pippen lookalike
    LOL
  25. p_xxviii
    25. Posted by p_xxviii Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:52 pm EDT

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    I like Moon...I hope the Heat can keep him...but he maybe happier getting the playing time he deserves somewhere else...

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