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Fri Feb 13, 2009 11:00 am EST

John Paxson out as Bulls GM?

The opening comment salvo in response to anything that's first reported on by Peter Vecsey usually runs along the lines of, "Vecsey wrote it ... ‘nuf said."

Well, no. That's not enough. Vecsey isn't even in the top three of the worst of the NBA scribe maker-uppers (a solid fourth!), and while he's wrong a lot, he's still right often enough to pay attention to. With that huge grain of salt.

So when he reports that Bulls GM John Paxson will resign soon after Thursday's trade deadline, and I know I'm falling into a trap here, it kind of makes sense.

After all, Paxson was the man who didn't want to stay an assistant coach under Phil Jackson back in 1996, worried about the wear and tear it would have on his psyche, to say nothing of the time spent away from his family post-playing days. So it's not a stretch to suggest that he may have had enough of this racket.

And the guy ... he doesn't look all that hot. It's been a tumultuous nearly-six year reign for Pax, and he's aged in President years in his time as Bulls GM.

The idea that Doug Collins could swoop in as coach and GM makes sense, as well. When Collins passed on taking the Bulls job last summer, the outgoing message he sent the media regarding his appreciation for Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf scanned pretty poorly. It was weird. It was fawning. It seemed like there was some sort of agenda to it.

So to think that those sorts of mash notes could lead to Reinsdorf eventually paying what Collins wanted, making up for the gulf in money by handing him more responsibility as a GM as well, it makes sense. And because it'd be the worst basketball move the Bulls have made since trading for Jalen Rose, it makes sense, because Jerry Reinsdorf doesn't really want to put that much effort into his basketball operations.

Losing John Paxson as GM would be the third-worst thing that could happen to the Chicago Bulls at this point. Hiring a coach/GM to replace him would be the second-worst.

Hiring Doug Collins, a man who has flamed out of three different jobs while showcasing a pretty awful sense of who should be on the court vs. who shouldn't, while demanding his teams work at some of the slowest paces in the NBA, would be the absolute worst. But, these are the Bulls. And this is Reinsdorf.

I'm not going to go over Paxson's history in this post. If he does call it quits, then we'll get into his up and down tenure in a more exacting column. His biggest screwup was signing Ben Wallace, no doubt about it, and his biggest perceived screwup was appearing to be in the running for either Kevin Garnett, Pau Gasol, and Kobe Bryant at a time when the Timberwolves, Grizzlies, and Lakers were all adamantly opposed to trading any of those players. But because there was supposed smoke there, people assume he had a chance on those guys, but passed.

That was wrong back then, and that's wrong right now, but you'll hear that all over ESPN tonight.

So, be an informed reader, and don't litter the comment section with re-told fables. And we'll see what happens to Paxson next week.

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  1. Charles C
    1. Posted by Charles C Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:31 pm EDT

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    seriously, one more article about the boring bulls and I'll implode
  2. chaoz_golem
    2. Posted by chaoz_golem Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:21 pm EDT

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    Was Paxson the one that let Elton Brand go?
  3. NICK M
    3. Posted by NICK M Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:42 pm EDT

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    The Bulls need a new owner. It is time to get rid of the other Jerry.
  4. NICK M
    4. Posted by NICK M Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:42 pm EDT

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    NO Jerry Krause got rid of Brand For EDDY CURRY! Then they got rid of him.
  5. NICK M
    5. Posted by NICK M Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:42 pm EDT

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    no im sorry they traded Brand for Tyson Chandler. My bad
  6. Daniel I
    6. Posted by Daniel I Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:50 pm EDT

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    How about one more year with all those rookie conracts and adding another (proabably top 10) while waiting for Hughes to bugger off. I guess a more refined scorer with Rose would help. What are your thoughts here KD?
  7. the REAL Headless Chicken
    7. Posted by the REAL Headless Chicken Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    Hey, VECSEY WROTE IT ... 'nuf said.
  8. michael c
    8. Posted by michael c Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:51 pm EDT

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    sun-times confirmed the story; seems like there's somethin to it
  9. Gbdup
    9. Posted by Gbdup Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:40 pm EDT

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    airlines should cut out the use of prop and commuter planes they are the most dangerous. i always cringe whenever i have to get in one.
  10. Gbdup
    10. Posted by Gbdup Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:40 pm EDT

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    airlines should cut out the use of prop and commuter planes they are the most dangerous. i always cringe whenever i have to get in one.
  11. af
    11. Posted by af Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:42 pm EDT

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    This was actually one of the best things you've written; especially your 3rd to last paragraph about the moves Paxson didn't make and that everyone assumed he could. You should have a talk with the hard-headed Bulls fan that assumed that all of those players were just ready for the picking.
  12. Gbdup
    12. Posted by Gbdup Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:40 pm EDT

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    icing can be an issue, but its sort of scape goat to blame it on that. the true problem is commupter and prop planes, they are much more dangerous however airlines rely on the because they are much more economic. i say time to do away with these flimsy small aircrafts.
  13. red.kryptonite
    13. Posted by red.kryptonite Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:40 pm EDT

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    does this mean that the bulls are not going for amare anymore?
  14. mgame901
    14. Posted by mgame901 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:17 pm EDT

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    So Skeets - WHO would be a good GM for Bulls. It's not like many people can actually work with Reinsdorf. I mean, in the past it's not like they had some brilliant decisions - they got lucky to get one guy that is the best BB player of all times. It's difficult to build a team without MJ. So - again - who would be good for them?
  15. Gbdup
    15. Posted by Gbdup Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:40 pm EDT

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    newer airplanes should have a device that puts a heater inside the wings of the aircraft, and bmw should put a fire extinguisher inside their car since the car crumbles so that the person cant escape. although i dont think icing was the issue.
  16. Hawk
    16. Posted by Hawk Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:04 pm EDT

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    So what happens after the trade deadline if he pulls off a trade? Is he going to quit on this team if he feels like they have the talent to compete in the east? The truth is they have the talent to compete in the East but they have the personel that would require a coach like Dantoni. I think that kind of offense would work well for them. They have some great up tempo players in Rose, Deng,Thomas and Gordon. They can all finish well around the hoop but they lack the interior presence to compete in a half court Del Negro offense.
  17. Envigado
    17. Posted by Envigado Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:24 pm EDT

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    KD you pay far more attention to the Bulls than I do, but from over here I don't see why you'd be too mad at this if it happened. I haven't been at all impressed with Del Negro, and somebody really needs to come in and do a job on that roster. Your Bulls kinda remind me of the Warriors right before the Nellie/Webber feud tore us up... a squad with potential and a number of desirable pieces, but clearly not ready to contend at a high level. A capable GM to make the most of your assets is needed ASAP before it all goes to waste.
    So there was nothing to the rumors that Paxson could've had Kobe if only he would have parted with Deng? Could've swore I heard that straight from his mouth.
  18. john v
    18. Posted by john v Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:38 pm EDT

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    I loved hearing all the comments on how the Bulls wouldn't give up Gordon for Kobe. If he was really on the market, any team would mortgage their entire future to get him.
    That being said...I like Pax, but why sign Vinny.....why insist on holding on to Gordon and Deng. Move those three on out of here.
  19. ricky
    19. Posted by ricky Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:19 pm EDT

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    for a change........and for all the mistakes.........go after AMARE before its too late again........
  20. the REAL Headless Chicken
    20. Posted by the REAL Headless Chicken Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    Gbdup is on a roll.
  21. Rob D
    21. Posted by Rob D Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:51 pm EDT

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    well, i think this is about time. i enjoyed paxson as a player, and as a tv/radio guy. but his moves and decisions as a gm have been poor.
    giving up and giving away chandler to sign ben wallace was a level 10 screw up. major money to guys like hinrich, nocionni are further hand cuff's to the franchise. passing on aldridge for thomas looks dumb, although thomas is finally looking like a nba player. deng and gordon contracts where screwed up, again, i don't disagree with the money given or not given, a better gm could have smoothed the feathers to get it done.
    time to go, time to bring in a smart guy, a smooth guy.
  22. MantisUPS
    22. Posted by MantisUPS Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:24 pm EDT

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    Donate the entire bulls team -rose to charity for a sweet tax break
  23. Sparky
    23. Posted by Sparky Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:05 pm EDT

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    If this comes to pass I hope that someday the Bulls will get a big man for the middle. No offense but Jokim Noah is nowhere near the prescence that is needed. If he resigns good riddence, if not read my post!
  24. Carlo
    24. Posted by Carlo Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:23 pm EDT

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    OK first off this ain't the '93 finals. He gets no more passes for that shot. Frankly he's in over his head. Both off our packages for Garnett and Gasol were good enough to get them but he was too scared to pull the trigger. I won't talk about the Kobe trade it just hurts me. I understand that Jerry Krause screwed up the Bulls, but Paxson has been stuck in neutral for 3 years and he lucked up on D. Rose even though he wanted Beasley.
    If he resigns on Thursday it'll be too late in my opinion. He missed that window to make the Bulls contenders because he was scared to part with Hinrich and/or Gordon?
    He has put the franchise on the right path, but if he don't have the balls to swing a deal for a superstar then maybe he should resign.
    Whoop There It Is!
  25. jazzey
    25. Posted by jazzey Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:30 pm EDT

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    i like bulls i wish paxson when stay with bulls thank you

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