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David Chalk of Bugs & Cranks weighs in with reasons you shouldn't fret over your team's World Series odds in '09. 

Less than a week after the World Series ended, the fine folks at The 700 Level were already complaining about the new Vegas odds that were giving the Phillies the same chance of winning the '09 World Series as their bitter rivals, the New York Mets.

From my viewpoint, it's dumb to get worked up about such things and here's why: World Series odds are always set using the following formula.

Team's Real Odds + Number Of Idiot Fans Willing To Wager Money On Said Team.

OK, sometimes a few other factors come into play, but basically that's it. Vegas does not enjoy parting with any of its money and since it knows that plenty of money will come in from the largest fanbases, it seeks to limit those payouts with the smallest odds. 

Let's look at some examples, so you can see what I'm talking about:

The three teams with the best Vegas odds to win the '09 World Series — at least according to Bodog via the Philadelphia Daily News — are, not coincidentally, the three most marketable teams in MLB.

Boston Red Sox — 11/2

Despite only winning a wild card and having most of their best players traded away or hobbled by injuries, plenty of bets will come from Red Sox fans who are notoriously large in numbers and small in brains.

New York Yankees — 6/1  

Who would bet on a team that has gotten progressively worse each of the last five years and plays in the same division as two of the three best teams in baseball?  Not just a lot of idiot fans, but a lot of rich idiot fans.

Chicago Cubs — 15/2

Taking money from Cubs fans is fun and ultimately very profitable, but Vegas always has to cover its ass just in case they're actually due. I mean, who doesn't have a friend who always puts $20 on the Cubs when he or she is out in Sin City? Even though the chances are slim, Vegas would never want to cash all those tickets from Wrigleyville. 

Actually, the only teams that jump out at me as having a much better chance at a title than their Vegas odds indicate are the last two teams that were left standing in 2008:

Philadelphia Phillies — 13/1

If this was one of the above teams, there'd be millions pouring in on a repeat. But one championship isn't going to cure the massive insecurity complex Philly fans have overnight.

Tampa Bay Rays — 16/1

While Devil Ray Town is growing and there's a lot of value in that line, we're much too busy trying to buy tickets to Tropicana Field than to buy gambling tickets.

The remaining 25 teams have odds that are scattered all over the place and no doubt they'll attract a relative share of drunken action. However, I hope you've all learned a valuable lesson or two from this post, namely:

• Gambling is stupid.
• Gambling eleven months before the World Series is really stupid.
• Complaining about your team's Vegas odds is really really stupid.
• Gambling on the Yankees winning the 2009 World Series is really, really, really stupid.

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  1. Jason M
    1. Posted by Jason M Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:37 pm EDT

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    i would put 20 on the cubs.
  2. Marty O
    2. Posted by Marty O Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:56 pm EDT

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    It depends on what free agents the Yankees sign. I'm not a Yankee fan but if the Yanks have a big off-season then they could easily win the World Series.
  3. Tony
    3. Posted by Tony Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:31 pm EDT

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    Thanks for posting this David. I was thinking the exact same thing when reading the idiotic posts on here after the odds were posted.
  4. andrejs
    4. Posted by andrejs Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:53 pm EDT

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    gambling is not stupid. its fun
  5. eight inches
    5. Posted by eight inches Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:37 pm EDT

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    If you understand wagering and odds, you would know not to wager or bet on any baseball team, at this point, to win the World Series. With players entering free agency, trades and the like, most teams have a completley different look at Spring Training. It's better to place your bet around March.
  6. Duk
    6. Posted by 'Duk Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:07 pm EDT

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    You're generally right, Mr. Inches. However, a few people placed bets at 250-1 on the Rays this time last year and came awfully close to cashing them. If only Biff were here with his sports almanac.
  7. meechone
    7. Posted by meechone Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:14 pm EDT

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    I just put 10 large on the Royals, yo.
  8. Mike
    8. Posted by Mike Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:18 pm EDT

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    The reason you bet this early is because the odds are much better. As soon as the Yankees (or someone) signs Manny, Sabathia, Texeira, etc, the payout goes down substantially. Like Duk says, 250-1 on the Rays would have been a pretty nice payout for the $20 you were going to blow on dinner anyway.
  9. eight inches
    9. Posted by eight inches Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:37 pm EDT

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    Mike: The odds are much better now, yes. But the odds are more accurate after Spring Training when the teams have pretty much a set line up. But then again, much of that changes throughout the course of a season when trades are made, players get injured, etc.
  10. Steve
    10. Posted by Steve Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:43 pm EDT

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    Gambling on Sports makes watching games more interesting. Especially when you are, let's say a Padre or Raider fan. This way, the season isn't wasted on complaining about terrible teams. As much as MLB, NFL, NBA, and NHL say they don't condone gambling........they need it. It keeps people interested in the games.
  11. leftcoast
    11. Posted by leftcoast Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:20 pm EDT

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    Actually, now is the best time to place your futures bet. If your team is going to be active in the free agent market or with trades, what better time to drop some money before the odds decrease. If the Phils sign a strong LF or additional pitching their odds will drop to 9 or 8 to 1. Remember they were 35:1 last November.
  12. TIM B
    12. Posted by TIM B Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:12 pm EDT

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    marty o: you are a yankees fan. if they got every free agent the they would need to learn to be a team. not so important if it's 1 or 2 players and the yanks are more than just 2 players away. lets take tex and cc. they would still need pitching.
    you may not know it but you are a yanks fan.
  13. Erock
    13. Posted by Erock Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:56 pm EDT

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    My money is on the Cubs, especially if they land another ace. They are going to be on a mission this year.
  14. Drock
    14. Posted by Drock Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:40 pm EDT

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    red sox fans should not be allowed to write articles
  15. Beer Is My Anti-Drug
    15. Posted by Beer Is My Anti-Drug Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:19 pm EDT

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    I just got home from Vegas yesterday. After doing fairly well on the craps table, I actually did put 20 each on the Red Sox and Cubs. It was money I didn't have before I walked in, so I figured what the heck.
  16. gs
    16. Posted by gs Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:50 pm EDT

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    The Cubs "on a mission"? What the hell does that mean? Were they on one against the Dodgers? That was absolutely pathetic. Tell them to show up in the post season. I agree that they have as much talent if not more then anyone, but a lot of their pitchers/hitters struggle in big spots.
  17. Will
    17. Posted by Will Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:17 pm EDT

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    Here's what I've learned. The author of this article is the stupid one. The first two teams are the richest and most aggressive in Baseball and the third finished 1st in Central with 97 wins! Plus if you're betting 11 months ahead of time I'd say those are the safest bets.
  18. b t
    18. Posted by b t Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:14 pm EDT

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    Dear David Chalk
    Small on brains? The world's most successful and well-known Hospitals, Universities, and high Tech companies all headquartered within 20 miles of Fenway Park, 2 World Series in 5 years, and you're writing a blog on who is favored to win it all, but calling their fans small on brains. Chalk is really only used to write on sidewalks nowadays; that's about your mentality; get a grip on reality; there are more Red Sox fans in the US than any other team and you haters can't deal with it. The fact that we're the smartest fans in the world REALLY make you jealous too. Face it; Ortiz and Lowell in the ALCS lineup, along with a healthy Drew = World Series #3 in the last 5 years. We'll win it and wash all the chalk off all the sidewalks in Red Sox nation next year.
  19. N H
    19. Posted by N H Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:37 pm EDT

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    B T
    Wow, the Sox won 2 world series in 5 years? So what you're saying is they failed 3 times? Gotcha
  20. N H
    20. Posted by N H Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:37 pm EDT

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    b t
    wow, the sox won 2 world series in 5 years? so what you're saying is they failed 3 times? gotcha
  21. felonious_hex
    21. Posted by felonious_hex Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:59 pm EDT

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    idiots!
  22. stuff
    22. Posted by stuff Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:27 pm EDT

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    I sure would not bet on the Cubs to win it all. They haven't won anything in 100years
  23. mikey
    23. Posted by mikey Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:41 pm EDT

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    small brains? what? it takes a very small brain to say that
  24. Dolan Must Go!
    24. Posted by Dolan Must Go! Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:08 pm EDT

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    If the Yanks do pick up those big names, they need to all take a retreat in a remote location for team building. Those who do not fare well must be left in the wilderness on their own (I'M TALKING TO YOU, A-ROD!), then hopefully they can return to glory, and hopefully repeat the feat of opening a new stadium with a World Championship...
  25. puck34ever
    25. Posted by puck34ever Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:21 pm EDT

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    Cubs = CHOKE

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