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Sportsline's Ray Ratto says he has been impressed with the way Cubs fans handled last week's sweep at the hands of the Dodgers, keeping the public whining and griping to a minimum.

The reaction of the actual Cubs players themselves, though, might be a different matter.

As reported by Rick Telander in today's Chicago Sun-Times, a water pipe in the visitor's dugout at Dodger Stadium was smashed with something near or at the end of Saturday's Game 3. The force was enough to cause the pipe to break and flood the dugout floor. Manager Lou Piniella was prevented from crossing the field to the postgame interview room.

No one on the Cubs has fessed up, though GM Jim Hendry is reported to have told a Dodgers official to "find out how much it costs and we'll pay for it."

(I should take the time here to note that this picture to the right is NOT of the Dodger Stadium dugout. Rather, it's an AP file photo from Turner Field during a brutal rain delay in '06. It illustrates the story rather well, don't you think?)

The whole incident makes for an interesting meditation, writes Telander:

"Maybe there is nothing all that bad about this incident. After all, no one was hurt, a pipe's a pipe, water evaporates.

"But there is the smell of cover-up to the thing, and the vandalism is, at the very least, part of perhaps the most bizarre and inexplicable fall from grace in the Cubs' curse-riddled history. Above all, somebody on the team should stand up and say, ''I was the guy.'' Maybe two or more of them should stand up and say they did it. If they did it. Explain their anger, apologize and we'll forgive."

Telander rightly compares this episode to the hotel-trashing actions of the U.S. hockey team at the '98 Olympics in Japan, embarrassing acts of vandalism to which no one ever fessed up.  

On its own, it's still a strange situation, though. While we Cubs fans wanted to see that the players cared just as much as we did about the downfall, seeing them trash the property of others wasn't the way we wanted to see that passion exhibited.

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  1. Justin W
    1. Posted by Justin W Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    I'll go for the easy jab:
    at least the Cubs hit something this series...
  2. baller13zg
    2. Posted by baller13zg Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:58 pm EDT

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    sounds like something zambrano would do.
  3. Saro G
    3. Posted by Saro G Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:46 pm EDT

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    Upperdeck job from Jim Edmonds.
  4. sovenbery
    4. Posted by sovenbery Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:34 pm EDT

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    go cubs!!!
  5. SB 13
    5. Posted by SB 13 Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:06 pm EDT

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    1 and 2... LOL!
  6. flavor_flav_2000
    6. Posted by flavor_flav_2000 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:00 pm EDT

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    they SHOULD find out what Cub hit the pipe after game 3....not to fine them or reprimand them but to give him an AWARD because he'd be the only Cub who did any hitting that series.....
  7. Denverfan#1
    7. Posted by Denverfan#1 Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:45 pm EDT

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    the cubs cant hit the but they hit pipes very well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  8. kemccollum@...
    8. Posted by kemccollum@... Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:49 pm EDT

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    It's all Derrek Lee. If I had to spend my entire NLDS sitting at second base while EVERY OTHER PLAYER choked..
  9. Anrkist
    9. Posted by Anrkist Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:43 pm EDT

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    Maybe they brought that kid from the minors up, you know the one who threw the pitch into the stands? Well he was actually aiming for the pipes, he really hates pipes... got his target this time.
  10. pianow
    10. Posted by pianow Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:10 pm EDT

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    Sounds like Jeremy Roenick.
  11. SFD Loves the Bay Area
    11. Posted by SFD Loves the Bay Area Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:14 pm EDT

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    WOW! I bet the Cubs just cried a lot . They should have. Their melt down reminds me of the METS!!! HAHAHAHAHA. As I big Giants Fan, I hate to see the Dodgers do well....SOMEBODY beat Manny and the Dodgers. I do not want San Francisco in the bidding war for Manny!!!! Especially if Manny gets a ring this year. While it would be bitter sweat to take Manny away from the Dodgers, I do not think we need ANOTHER premadona in the dug out so soon after the departure of the last one (YES, you Barry!). Plus, Manny will want BIG money because New York Yank Me's will want to try and resurrect the curse of the Bambino and Wiss off Red Sox Fans...While that would be (I think) funnier in the long run versus Manny coming to SF from LA!
  12. L D
    12. Posted by L D Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:58 pm EDT

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    SFD--Typical Giants fan who can't spell and enjoys making fun of other's misfortunes while watching the playoffs from the comfort of his living room--just like the team he worships. Keep it in the Bay Area chat rooms.
  13. ridefast600
    13. Posted by ridefast600 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:40 pm EDT

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    The way the Cubs played it looks like they were hitting the pipe before all the games.
  14. stupididiot1000
    14. Posted by stupididiot1000 Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:46 pm EDT

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    are you kidding me with this story? does anyone realize how many rooms or lockers are trashed or walls punched during the course of a baseball season? i'm sure stuff like this happens all the time, it just so happens that this was apparently visible in a dugout and all of the sudden the cubs are disrespectful and damagers of property. this is ridiculous.
  15. stupididiot1000
    15. Posted by stupididiot1000 Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:46 pm EDT

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    telander is usually an idiot
  16. lalo
    16. Posted by lalo Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:56 pm EDT

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    HA-hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah. Man you guys are so funny. Hit! Tears! Pipes! Choke! Did I mention STUPID?
  17. mikez34
    17. Posted by mikez34 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:20 pm EDT

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    The Cardinals did the same thing in 85 in Kansas City. See, you guys aren't so different.
  18. Adam
    18. Posted by Adam Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:21 pm EDT

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    Punching a locker or a wall after a bad game or strikeout is normal, even typical behavior for a player. Not exactly what you'd want your kids to see, but we kind of expect it and tolerate it. Causing damage in a high-visibility area such as a dugout, especially in another team's stadium, shouldn't be tolerated. I hope that the Cubs not only find the player or players that did this and not only fine and reprimand them, but take the cost of the repairs out of their salaries.
    Can't blame the players for the passion, but this was vindictive, crass, and petty. Kind of like fans who like the Giants or the Red Sox!
  19. Topa Warrior
    19. Posted by Topa Warrior Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:42 pm EDT

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    As a faithfull Dodger Fan for the past 10 + years, I can only thank the lucky stars for Manny! How sweet it is to have "Mannywood" bonding with this team! How many of you unbelivers ever thought one man could make such a difference (chemistry wise). Oh, lets not forget throwing our recently acquired third baseman (Blake) into the mix! As for the broken water pipe at Dodger Statium, who cares....not me! Someday, the curse (Cubs) will be taken off, i.e., Bosox did it!!! It's our year and we hope to make the best of it! Our other team (Angeles) blew it again!
    Lets enjoy a Bosox and Dodger series! Anything less will definely effect the viwereship of the world series!!
  20. Potty
    20. Posted by Potty Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:57 pm EDT

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    Like all ofthe other Cub hits, this one came with no one on!!!
  21. birdkillers
    21. Posted by birdkillers Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:18 pm EDT

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    Dodgers need to keep Manny!!!!
  22. Diane P
    22. Posted by Diane P Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:10 pm EDT

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    is it the same pipe they took up the .
  23. Diane P
    23. Posted by Diane P Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:10 pm EDT

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    is it the same pipe they took up the .
  24. Diane P
    24. Posted by Diane P Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:10 pm EDT

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    is it the same pipe they took up the .

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