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I imagine it's tough being a general manager in the AL East. Each year, you have to deal with the likes of the Red Sox, the Yankees and their supersized budgets. And starting this year, you have to worry about the Rays and all the talent they've stockpiled through the draft in recent years. The O's haven't been bad, either.

So if you're Toronto GM J.P. Ricciardi (that's who we're talking about here), you also have to worry about other Jays-based things, like A.J. Burnett decimating his trade value by mocking the home fans as he walks off the mound or how exactly to ship Frank Thomas out of town — by ground or two-day air?

Still, I can't believe all that stress and pressure would have added up to create one of the better "ohnooheedid-unt!"woodshed moments in sports talk radio history — and against a player who was probably just minding his own business in Cincinnati.

To set the scene, Ricciardi was taking phone calls on his Wednesday night radio show when a caller suggested that he pursue Cincinnati's Adam Dunn as a way to "save" Toronto's flagging offense.

Finger, meet nerve.

Said Ricciardi: "He’s a lifetime .230, .240 hitter that strikes out a ton and hits home runs." 

Said the caller: "“Yes, he hits home runs, which none of the Toronto Blue Jays are doing." 

Here's a dramatic interpretation of what happened next.

Here's actual audio of what happened, courtesy of Redleg Nation.

And here's a partial transcript from the National Post:

“Do you know the guy doesn’t really like baseball that much?” Ricciardi  said to the caller. “Do you know the guy doesn’t have a passion to play the game that much? How much do you know about the player?

“There’s a reason why you’re attracted to some players and there’s a reason why you’re not attracted to some players. I don’t think you’d be very happy if we brought Adam Dunn here …

“We’ve done our homework on guys like Adam Dunn and there’s a reason why we don’t want Adam Dunn. I don’t want to get into specifics."

As Josh Alper over at Fanhouse notes, it's probably not a good idea to be sitting J.P. and Adam at the same table at any future award banquets. Nor is it to say anything other than "no comment" if you don't have nice things to say about a player. The Reds play the Dodgers this afternoon, so I'm sure we'll be seeing something from Mr. Dunn soon. He's a noted nice guy, so it'll be interesting to see if he goes the same place that Ricciardi did. Stay tuned. 

UPDATE: My man C. Trent Rosecrans has Dunn's response. Here's a sampling:

"I don’t know the clown. I don’t know, and you can use the word ‘clown’ if you like."

"I’ve seen it, I haven’t heard it. I really don’t care what one guy thinks, to be honest with you. If I’m a G.M., I don’t know that I’d go out of my way to discredit a player — if I’m a player. He’s obviously won more than me, I guess. Or hasn’t. I know nothing about him."

"He’s not even in our country. This guy’s in another country talking ****."

"I don’t care about the perception people have of me, if anything happens, it looks like I ain’t going to Toronto. I can eliminate one team. I’m not converting my dollars into looneys and twoneys just yet. They’re really good, actually."

Nothing like a good fight absolutely out of nowhere to brighten up a random Thursday, is there?

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  1. Saro G
    1. Posted by Saro G Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:46 pm EDT

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    Newsflash, JP. Dunn is a 900 career OPS player, even on the road. Enjoy last place behind the Orioles, cause you'll be done after this year.
  2. T-BONE
    2. Posted by T-BONE Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:20 pm EDT

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    Umm, i think the jays have had their share of power hitters over the last few seasons. Troy Glaus and Frank Thomas were obviously not the type of players that JP was looking for (im assuming he doesnt like sacrificing a ton of strikeouts for the long ball) and Adam Dunn is the same type of player.
  3. Zippy
    3. Posted by Zippy Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:15 pm EDT

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    Go Leafs Go!
  4. Barrett K
    4. Posted by Barrett K Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:02 pm EDT

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    21 come-from-behind wins is an early sign that the O's are coming back to life after a decade of hibernation!
  5. The Loon
    5. Posted by The Loon Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:22 pm EDT

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    All in favor of cito gaston as gm???
    should the jays have more latin players?
    what coaches would be available to replace gibbons?
  6. quickpucks
    6. Posted by quickpucks Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:24 pm EDT

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    Its time for the Jays to wake up and clean house with a BIG GIANT BROOM! Gibbons has no clue how to motivate these millionare athletes and J.P. has made a few good moves, but the inability to properly assess talent, both free agents and through the draft is indicitive of the last place postion the Jays are in.
  7. cadio fat
    7. Posted by cadio fat Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:18 pm EDT

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    anybody seen my watch?
  8. quickpucks
    8. Posted by quickpucks Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:24 pm EDT

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    To add to my comment, the Jays have not had a difference maker at the power spot since they let Carlos Delgado go.
  9. Mike
    9. Posted by Mike Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:14 pm EDT

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    J.P. is a douche and Gibbons is a drunk with an attitude problem! Gibbons has fought with so many of the players that the players just up and leave. We've lost Shea Hillenbrand(spelling?) because of crap like this. Please Paul(Godfrey), ditch the punk and the drunk and get some competent people in there.
  10. KG
    10. Posted by KG Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:09 pm EDT

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    we lost shea hillenbrand...... and you think that was a bad thing? is he even still playing? don't forget we got jeremy accardo for him.
  11. The Magic Rat
    11. Posted by The Magic Rat Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:55 pm EDT

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    I personally can't stand the Blue Jays and enjoy seeing them lose so often as their announcers are absolutely horrible - Jamie Campbell in particular. But I do know one thing that is a fact, Adam Dunn is the only major leaguer to have 40 or more home runs in each of the last 4 season. That, and he already has 18 this year. If the Blue Jays are looking for pure power, he's the man to go after. It's nice to see the Jays tumble in the standings as they continue to throw away huge dollars on guys like Burnett, Wells and Frank Thomas. The entire organization needs an overhaul.
  12. Butt Pirate
    12. Posted by Butt Pirate Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:03 pm EDT

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    Maybe Gibbons will pick a fight with Ricciari over this to "win back the respect of the clubhouse"...again.
    Jays fans, I will pop the cork on some champagne with you when Ricciari is sacked.
  13. Pause
    13. Posted by Pause Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:43 pm EDT

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    JP forgot to mention how that discerning batting eye contributes to Fleetfoot Thunderthighs BFI (baseclogging factor index) almost as much as the sun contributes to global warming. With little creativity and more brains than JP has flashed in his post Billy B. solo career, the Jays could have been sporting a 3-4-5 of Bonds-Thomas-Dunn. Throw in more tolerance with regard to Glaus and you have a murderers row of mashers that only the Yanks could compete with. I would be the greatest GM of all time.
  14. doug k
    14. Posted by doug k Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:23 pm EDT

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    i was hoping jp would do the conversion. 230 to 240 hitters in the us should be the same as 280 in canada, right? well, i tried. believe me toronto, jp may not be right on other things but you dont want this slow moving non caring bum up there. but please someone get him away from here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  15. Saro G
    15. Posted by Saro G Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:46 pm EDT

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    How great would it be if the Jays were no-hit today?
  16. cujo_4ever
    16. Posted by cujo_4ever Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:32 pm EDT

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    Well as a diehard Blue Jays fan, we arent much of a fan of JP either, all hype and no delivery.
  17. packersfan3434
    17. Posted by packersfan3434 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:48 pm EDT

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    JP should be more concerned about his Jays rolling over to the Brewers. They should be ashamed. As we speak, Dave "I was staff ace behind Halladay with the Blue Jays but a career 5th starter at best with any other team" Bush is shutting them out. What a disgrace.
  18. steve
    18. Posted by steve Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:43 pm EDT

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    Another thing Adam Dunn Brings is a .400 on base percentage.... He may strikeout a lot, but he hits homers and gets on base..... I would take him on my team if the price is right..... 12-13 million a year I think is fair for him... u could always DH him or possibly play him at first since has experience there..... Dunn is way better than that joker Lyle Overbay.... I should be a GM, where do I mail my resume...
  19. sasktaxpayer
    19. Posted by sasktaxpayer Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:05 pm EDT

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    Hey Godfrey - time to wake up and realize your management team sucks big time. If you had any brains whatsoever you'd be asking JP and the Gibbon to be cleaning their lockers out.....truly disgusting the way you've let the Jays become as crappy as they are.
  20. carlo q
    20. Posted by carlo q Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:24 pm EDT

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    the jays went downhill as soon as they hired this greasy used car salesman to be their gm. he's assembled quite possibly the worst lineup of hitters in the history of major league baseball and he pulls bush league crap like this on a regular basis.
    the blue jays were once an organization that was held to be amongst the classiest in baseball and were a prime choice for free agents. those days are long gone.
    thanks jp
  21. Jeff
    21. Posted by Jeff Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:49 pm EDT

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    The Jays should have kept Clemens and Carpenter.
    The Jays wouldn't make a trade that would really benefit them anyways. Regardless, Dunn should be traded to a winning team, like the Rays.
  22. cmiketinac
    22. Posted by cmiketinac Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:27 pm EDT

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    It's hard to attract free agents in Toronto, sorry to say, because of customs, taxes, etc. It's also very well known that Toronto isn't exactly a baseball town (I think that's what AJ Burnett was trying to say the other day when he referenced playing in Chicago). As for the Jays, their problem is that they are the most God-awful team hitting with runners in scoring position that I've ever seen. That's not Riccardi's problem or Gibbons'. I say they sign Bonds. That would shake-up that entire clubhouse for sure...and give them some meat in the middle of that line-up.
    Chuck
  23. Michael B
    23. Posted by Michael B Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:20 pm EDT

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    just fire the idiot already
  24. carlo q
    24. Posted by carlo q Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:24 pm EDT

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    The Jays never had any issues attracting free agents in their heyday. Paul Molitor, Dave Winfield, Dave Stewart, Jack Morris...
    Like I said, this organization used to have class. Now they're run by a scumbag who throws money at the likes of an overated, underachieving windbag like AJ Burnett.

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