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Golden State Warriors president Robert Rowell suspended Monta Ellis for 30 games without pay Saturday for violating his new contract by crashing a mo-ped. His agent, Jeff Fried, hinted they will appeal the suspension that could cost Monta $3 million. Here's what they're saying out in the ether about this mess ...

Tim Kawakami, Mercury News: "They were not going to let this go, let it slide, let the whole thing pass with a sigh and a knowing chuckle. No, the Warriors' top brass was most assuredly not going to pardon Monta Ellis for his scooter-crash sins or exercise any amount of mercy that would leave the franchise vulnerable or looking weak. [...] It was about exacting punishment while maintaining leverage on Ellis as the Warriors' wayward star recuperates from his wrecked left ankle. It was about showing everybody who's boss, who's running things, who steers this ship. It was most definitely not about mercy. The suspension will cost Ellis about $3 million in salary. The new Warriors motto: Mercy is for chumps."

Hard for the Yard: "I expected something in the $250,000 to $500,000 range, definitely no more than a million. Rowell, your franchise has sucked pretty much forever. You've made the playoffs once in something like 13 years. You're looking forward to what could be, and probably will be, a rough season in the Western Conference. Monta is clearly the team's best player. He made a mistake, and he deserves to be punished, but he's a long-term investment. Three million and 30 games is too much. Way too much. The Mississippi Bullet will be the face of your franchise for at least the next six years. Start acting like it."

Hardwood Paroxysm: "... what exactly is the source of the suspension? The fact that Ellis was even riding a moped is definitely a cause of the team's frustrations, but for consequences this severe there have to be unique circumstances. Is the team taking Monta's dishonesty so seriously that they're going to charge him ... THREE MILLION DOLLARS for it? I understand where the Warriors feel wronged in this whole ordeal, both in terms of their star player being sidelined and, on top of it, lying straight to their faces. But three mil is a pretty penny. A chunk of change. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve punishment, but it just seems like an awful lot for a white lie."

48minutes.net: "The one area where I could envision Fried making some headway is claiming that the suspension runs so long that Monta might be healthy, ready to go yet stuck on the sidelines prior to Dec. 19. Let’s figure the best-case scenario: Ellis underwent surgery on Aug. 27. At that point, the team said he needed six weeks’ worth of immobilization (taking us to Oct. 8, which was pretty much spot on), then another six weeks of off-court rehab. Assuming that figure holds — and that he won’t require extra time to recover from the surgery he needs to eventually remove hardware from his left ankle — that takes us out to Nov. 19, four weeks before the suspension is up. Will Ellis be back on the floor on Nov. 19? Assuredly not. But could he be set by, say, early December, yet barred from playing? That’s a possibility. And maybe Fried can use that to convince an arbitrator to knock a few games off the length of the suspension. I wouldn’t count on it, however."

CelticsBlog: "... by suspending Ellis, the Warriors have sent a clear message to the rest of the roster and the team's fan base. The organization appears as though it will not tolerate off-court misconduct in a manner that hurts the team, and it avoids susceptibility to accusations of star treatment for its summer investment. The Warriors set an apparent precedent here that they will punish players who step out of line and jeopardize the club, and the front office no doubt hopes that will help its image with the fans while deterring other players from similar behavior. In the meantime, the Warriors gain what should be closure to the Ellis injury mystery-fiasco without doing themselves much damage in the won-loss column. The risk of Ellis turning on the team still seems low, and so long as that doesn't happen, the suspension ploy will be a good one for Golden State."

Fast Break: "... for those pushing for the contract to be voided, it's hard to see the upside.  If Ellis returns to close to his former self, we've lost our best player for nothing. Even if Ellis doesn't, we've gained nothing in terms of cap flexibility this year (and only marginal room next year, given our likely expenses for other players and proximity to the luxury tax). Moreover, we become enemy number one for players' agents, who worry about recommending us to their clients given our willingness to choose the "nuclear" option to Ellis' injury. Finally, we likely poison the chemistry with our current group of players, who by all accounts like Ellis and consider him a key piece of the team. From our position — having no access to Ellis' medical information and prognosis for a full recovery — abandoning any future with the closest thing we have to a star seems like an awfully big risk."

Deceptively Quick: "For that $3 million Monta could have had this guy flown in to give private lessons, thus boosting his skills exponentially. He could have also built that guy a mansion, and a moped course made entirely of cotton candy where accidents would end in a delicious treat instead of ankle surgery. Perhaps that would have prevented anyone from ever discovering his secret and forbidden love affair with low powered motorized vehicles. We will never know."

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  1. krockog1
    1. Posted by krockog1 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:54 pm EDT

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    Get well soon Monta we need you.
  2. QUE RICO
    2. Posted by QUE RICO Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:42 pm EDT

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    No matter how much they pay him... still.. he is property of the golden state warriors ... that $$$ comes from the boss...who makes you sign on the dotted line.... what?? you think they are paying you for just signing it ?? NO
  3. LG
    3. Posted by LG Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:53 pm EDT

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    It would seem pretty fair that he should not be paid the exact amount of games that he cant play in because of his illegal injury + some community service to account for the lie
  4. Martha
    4. Posted by Martha Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:24 pm EDT

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    i hope it's not just your wording that makes it sound like it's contractually ok for Monta to ride a moped, as long as there's no crashing. because that sort of nuance is why agents get the big bucks.
  5. QUE RICO
    5. Posted by QUE RICO Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:42 pm EDT

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    well martha... he is still considered to have some type of freedom...
  6. Martha
    6. Posted by Martha Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:24 pm EDT

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    True, Rico. And it's a good thing his contract has that "BUT NO CRASHING" clause -- otherwise imagine how many he'd have destroyed by now!
  7. Older_than_Moses_Shaq
    7. Posted by Older_than_Moses_Shaq Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:56 pm EDT

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    Good for them. He was being stupid and should have to pay for his stupidty.
  8. QUE RICO
    8. Posted by QUE RICO Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:42 pm EDT

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    i wuv you martha ..
  9. cvdfhil
    9. Posted by cvdfhil Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:32 pm EDT

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    Anyone who has a problem with this suspension/fine is a MORON. Lets look at the facts. Monte Ellis signs a big contract, then goes out and does something he knows he's not supposed to do. Then he gets hurt and lies about it.
    On the flip side all the Warriors are doing is saying you don't get paid while you're hurt and unable to play. It was your fault, no one elses you need to take responsiblity for your actions. Anyone out there who works for a living -- try asking your boss for 3 months paid time off when you get hurt doing something that then prevents you from then doing your job. You'll be lucky to keep your job let alone get paid for your time off.
    This is a good precedent for the league. Stop treating these players like spoiled children and make them act like men. Monte or any other player who has something like this happen, needs to man up and take responsibility for his actions. It's the right / responsible thing to do!
  10. free2sparkit
    10. Posted by free2sparkit Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:03 pm EDT

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    As A G State fan. I think the suspension was a good thing, but Monta is a good kid who made made a mistake. Can't really say if it was right or wrong with him being hit for 3 mill. I just don't agree with him being out for a month after he returns from his injury. Western confrence is no joke. We are in tough situation here. I hope the 30 games are reduce or it seems like another long year for the Warriors. :( F*** Baron
  11. covo29
    11. Posted by covo29 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:29 pm EDT

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    if monta is getting a 30 game suspension for a moped accident, why did Stephen Jackson only get suspended 7 games when he shot his gun off in a strip club? a scooter accident is more punishable than a felonious act of violence?
  12. troy b
    12. Posted by troy b Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:57 pm EDT

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    Not that it would have made sense but couldn't Golden State have voided his contract altogether?
    Had he come clean the first time he may not have gotten suspended at all. I think that Ellis is the best thing that WE have goin' .... a true star in the making. He needs to suck this suspension up, learn from it and move on. It's a vaulable lesson that's going to make him a more responsible person in the future...Man Up!!!
  13. Michael J
    13. Posted by Michael J Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:17 pm EDT

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    i like monta, but if he got hurt doing something he agreed not to, then he should not get paid for the time that he is injured. 30 day suspension ends before he comes back so in this case it is fair. why should warriors pay him for sitting out for doing something he shouldn't have been doing. besides 63 million is still a lot of money.
  14. mnippes
    14. Posted by mnippes Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:24 pm EDT

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    First of all, his name is spelled MONTA not montE. The main point is that the warriors put the franchise in Monta's hands after Baron left. He made a huge mistake proving he's not quite ready for that responsibility. As long as he and the warriors can eventually put the whole situation in the past then next season we should be ok. this season is done because we'll be lucky to start the first month at .500 and as we all know, .500 in the western conference amounts to nothing.
  15. math_daddy8
    15. Posted by math_daddy8 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:11 pm EDT

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    Monta should ask for a trade. This is rediculous.
  16. Holmes
    16. Posted by Holmes Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:53 pm EDT

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    Monta Ellis signed a 66 million dollar contract. Excuse me if I am not crying about him losing out on 3 million. The owner pays the checks, he can do whatever he wants to his players. It is their decision how they act on and off the court. This is ridiculous that people actually think 3 million out of 66 million is a lot of money. Ellis got what he deserved.
  17. bigbrad_98205
    17. Posted by bigbrad_98205 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:06 pm EDT

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    Monta Ellis get well and put this situation behind you and plays the game you knows best!!! looking forward to see you play!!!
  18. OzFraud
    18. Posted by OzFraud Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:43 pm EDT

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    The Quiet Storm awaits.
  19. RODNEY
    19. Posted by RODNEY Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:48 pm EDT

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    #9 thumbs up .... Monta won't be ready to even play until his suspension is over...even then we will have to wait and see if he can jump, dip, rise again to be the key player that some think he could be b-4 the accident. He is going to have to put up to shut up the nah sayers...63 million is still a lot of pocket change.
  20. Derek K
    20. Posted by Derek K Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:45 pm EDT

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    If he can't play because of a non basketball injury he should be suspended for the duration of his injury rehab. Wait its Monta Elllis? Give him an extra 3 mill for letting us get back to the lottery and maybe we will stop taking 6'10" 175 lbs forwards that nelson won't play because they arent close of being ready. What littlehope we had with Monta is certainly gone now for this year as we ever so slightly slip to the celar of the western conference.
  21. MississippiBoy
    21. Posted by MississippiBoy Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:44 pm EDT

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    I have watched this guy grow up in the spot light on the basketball court and off from high school to the pro's and Monta is one of the best young role models that a kid can have in this day and time....Some of you forget to realize this guy never had the same opportunity to do a lot of things because the eyes of the world has always been on him....Reguardless of how much money you pay a kid as young as Monta they are still going to make mistakes....I think GS should have accounted for this when they drafted him out of high school and resigned him....Compared to other more mature players who did much much worst there with GS I think they should have followed the advice of Chris M. because when it come time to resign him I'm sure he will have this in the back of his mind!!!!
  22. Demetrick W
    22. Posted by Demetrick W Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:39 pm EDT

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    Get well boy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  23. Shivaram
    23. Posted by Shivaram Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:20 pm EDT

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    Fining a person will have a tax consequence. By, suspending, Monta is not getting paid and so less of a tax liability. The net effect for Monta is
  24. Weedwhore
    24. Posted by Weedwhore Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:07 pm EDT

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    as a long time fan even through the 13 years of crappy teams and poor front office choices...we are fans who are used to this.
    I think this is a BAD thing. Fine him money but don't have him lose games. This is why my warriors will never win big..because idiot front office ownership. We don't need to bring up Davis....or half the picks the warriors could have made over the last 20 years.
    I can only hope that one day the bay area teams will have ownerships that understand how to win...or in the very least want to make a EFFORT to win.
  25. mike s.
    25. Posted by mike s. Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:23 pm EDT

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    hurry back m.ellis we need you GO WARRIORS..............

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