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Boston 98, Detroit 80

I suppose it isn't fair to ask the Detroit Pistons to play the defending champs twice in 11 days, a scant few weeks after trading the team's most celebrated player and identity-shaper for the whirlwind and identity-shifter that is Allen Iverson. But we shouldn't completely dismiss these two big losses. There's a kernel of truth in there, somewhere.

We should partially dismiss them, though. Really, how much are the Pistons going to figure out in eight games (4-4) with this guy? This isn't like getting used to having to shade for Jim Abbott defensively once in five games or even switching out your all-around dynamic QB for a trad pocket passer in his mid-30s. Basketball is far, far more complicated. Ask the Nuggets, who traded for Iverson in December of 2006 and still never seemed to get how to use the guard in a way that put the team over the top.

Coaching matters. Stern decisions have to be made, and a lot of that "buck stops here" nonsense actually helps. It helps drive away excuses, and it helps to make you cringe should you have to spit out "we'll get ‘em next time" after the game. If it hurts to say that, you're on the right track. If you're shrugging your shoulders, then something is missing. And I don't care that the season is 82 games.

So when you see the Piston reserves acting like pampered former All-Stars, or Detroit failing to close out on shooters, or stepping into open lanes in order to make sure that the open lanes cease to be open lanes, you have to wonder when the buck is ever going to be able to stop.

This isn't to say that Detroit played the same poor way the entire night, far from it. They just did it long enough to lose handily again. That's the difference between a pretty good team that occasionally plays great and ... the Celtics. The Celtics are just about always there.

The Pistons have never always been there, save for the second round of the playoffs. That's it. Up and down but ultimately rewarding regular season, iffy first round, second round dominance, before falling apart in a third round that they should have won every year. Every damn year. Should have won it, and didn't, for three years running.

You probably saw the game. The Celtics stars were good, and the Celtic bench played great. None of Doc Rivers players saw more than 27 minutes of action, they held a rebounding edge, kept the turnovers down (finally, just 12), and all of Rajon Rondo's decisions seemed to be the right move. 18 points, eight assists, three steals and just two turnovers in only 26 minutes for Rondo.

I'm not saying the Pistons don't care. They do. They're just like most teams in that they don't care enough. And caring enough is a tough, tough thing. It takes a ton of patience.

It's just that, while we should cut them some slack because of the Iverson deal and allow Detroit some time, there are still things to be critical about that don't have a thing to do with Allen Iverson.

Or maybe they do. Either way, we still have to observe a bit more. The season goes on for 82 games, after all.

Los Angeles Lakers 105, Phoenix 92

For most of the month, while the focus has rightfully been on Los Angeles' dominant defense, I've been watching Lamar Odom quietly (and inefficiently, because the shots aren't falling in great numbers) make Tex Winter a happy, happy man.

Winter is the architect of the Lakers' offense, and likely the strongest principle of his famed Triangle offense is the way players are supposed to penetrate the defense. With a pass (preferably, because that means there is an open player somewhere in the teeth of that defense), a drive, a shot, or a rebound.

The last two may not seem like the best moves overall, because shots over the top of the D and ugly offensive rebounds don't seem to go hand-in-hand with the spacious and aesthetically-pleasing Triangle offense.

But these things are important, especially when the player creating the penetration is among those (like, say, the Laker youngsters that come off the bench) who might not be the most structurally-sound Triangle denizens. There's a reason Derek Fisher starts, you know.

So there LO is, shooting the ball, or getting into the lane for a lefty runner or hook that might not fall. Not only is his per-game numbers way down from last year, but his per-minute numbers have taken a dive as well. Even with all those chances to pad his stats among the bench corps. And yet, he's helping. So, so much. Don't let them convince you that he isn't.

Los Angeles held the Suns to about 99 points per 100 possessions, which is right around what the Charlotte Bobcats average, while putting up a number of its own (113 per 100) that would lead the league by a wide margin if averaged out for the year. And that was in Phoenix. And Kobe missed 15 shots, while Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol combined for 14 points. This team is all that and a bag of crisps.

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  1. QUE RICO
    1. Posted by QUE RICO Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:42 pm EDT

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    Pistons will soon be making commercials about life insurance,
  2. Copeman Blvd.
    2. Posted by Copeman Blvd. Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:14 pm EDT

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    Ya its gets old singing the same game over and over again.
  3. Copeman Blvd.
    3. Posted by Copeman Blvd. Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:14 pm EDT

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    Do you see Michigan beat UCLA though, that was tight.
  4. GregP
    4. Posted by GregP Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:13 pm EDT

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    Second game of a back to back. A night after stopping Cleveland's 8 game winning streak. Think you want to mention that Dick. No reason to panic...
  5. NSS
    5. Posted by NSS Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:07 pm EDT

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    I tend to think the other way. Pistons weren't better than say the '05 Heat, until Wade and Shaq got hurt. They weren't better than the '04 Lakers, until Malone got hurt and Kobe and Shaq moved their soap opera onto the court. Thank God for that Rasheed Wallace offensive rebound in 2006 (Game 6 in Cleveland), otherwise they wouldn't have even made the ECF. They always seem to get all the whistles in the playoffs too, perhaps because the referees buy into the hype too. Point is, in my opinion they're a "shoulda lost" team instead of a "shoulda won" team.
  6. bong
    6. Posted by bong Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:09 pm EDT

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    Kobe can have the Lakers, KD. Eddy Curry would like that bag of crisps.
  7. rightsaidfred
    7. Posted by rightsaidfred Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:38 pm EDT

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    Let the season play itself out before we pass any more judgements. I know for sure that the Pistons will not make it to the Eastern Conference finals this year. Other than that, maybe Joe Dumars has some other goals he was trying to accomplish. Ask him about that.
  8. omar s
    8. Posted by omar s Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:43 pm EDT

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    i thought the game was good and that boston was doing what they always do cloging the paint so if these team are going to fight for the ring they have to do better in facing the boston celtics they are clearly the better team, and they have so many big players thats so good but good game also by the lakers also facing the suns. Another good game tonight the dever neggets are facing the lakers tonight, so that looks to be a good game tonight as well. Like i said boston is better then piston, clearly the best in the conference, boston is playing great against the best teams and clearly could take it again this year, lakers are still young, they play boston next month. Boston has bigger and stronger player then most of the team in there conference and surrounded by good shooters, and thats why they are winning so many games, but it is working.
  9. haon68
    9. Posted by haon68 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:16 pm EDT

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    Did you just say crisps?
  10. Thumper E
    10. Posted by Thumper E Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:08 pm EDT

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    skeets! Lakers or Celtics? who's the better team and who will win in the matchup later this season? call it!!!! quick!! :P
  11. Andrew K
    11. Posted by Andrew K Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:23 pm EDT

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    For this season, I am no longer a Piston fan. Wake me up when AI is dumped. He is ruining the Detroit offense. Dribble for 15 seconds, find the hardest possible shot, repeat.
    Also, speaking of Odom, is it just me, or does his outside jumpshot seem to have improved? Never was a fan of his shot, mainly because he releases the ball so late, but he seems to be hitting those 17-18 footers much more consistently, even if his overall % is down.
  12. bigboo's bro
    12. Posted by bigboo's bro Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:38 pm EDT

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    Classic game for Iverturd: .385 shooting, negligible assists, and twice as many TOs as Steals. When you consider that he is viewed and compensated as an elite player in the NBA, you see why the quality of the game is so poor.
  13. khandor
    13. Posted by khandor Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:50 pm EDT

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    KD,
    I haven't swung by in a while.
    Good to see you hit 2 out of the park, as your analysis of what occurred for these squads last night was square on the fat of the bat.
    The Celtics' 'collective ticker', right now, is what separates them from everybody else in the EC; while the Lakers, with Lamar et al., playing thus, are right on track to accomplish the goal I foresaw for them prior to their loss last year to the Celtics in the 2008 NBA Finals, i.e. 70+ Wins and the 2008-2009 NBA Title.
    As Kobe said in a recent network interview, what the Celtics did to the Lakers in those Finals was stop LA dead in their tracks, and physically dominate the Showtime Boyz in a way that must stick in the craw of Kobe & Co. for 12 months, 365.
    Only then might the Lakers be well enough prepared to deal successfully with the hydra in Beantown this time around.
    6 months left and counting ...
  14. R
    14. Posted by R Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:11 pm EDT

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    While it's true that Detroit was playing Boston the night after they beat Cleveland and that didn't do them any favors, Denver beat Boston the night after they lost to Cleveland. So if the Nuggets could do it...
  15. QUE RICO
    15. Posted by QUE RICO Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:42 pm EDT

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    khandor visits kd's fat bat ... wow.. it's definately getting closer to valentines day
  16. Joel J
    16. Posted by Joel J Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:19 pm EDT

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    Rasheed has been bananas so far this year. The Pistons will only improve as the year goes on, if they figure out the point-guard situation.
  17. Joel J
    17. Posted by Joel J Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:19 pm EDT

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    The Lakers are over-rated again. I would be surprised if they held it together through the playoffs.
  18. I G U PC
    18. Posted by I G U PC Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:09 pm EDT

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    I hate da C's I hope LBJ takes care ov dem n da playoffs like he did 2 Detroit.
    ps. LBJ 4 MVP 2008-2009.
  19. carlos z
    19. Posted by carlos z Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:19 pm EDT

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    i love the lakers but the celtics are still the number one team in the league.i want to see the lakers play with passion and composure when being down.they looked good against the suns but that game was decided in the first quarter.lakers walked in with a certain swagger they "knew" they were gonna win.against the pistons they were embarassing.they looked scared and intimidated.kobe still played hard but his shots didn't fall.the rest of the team looked resigned.reminded me of last years finals against the celtics.the youngsters didn't play good when things were going bad.the lakers are sure to win a lot of games this year 60+ but if they can't overcome the way they play when things aren't going their way what does it matter? we'll see the same outcome.psychology has a lot to do with this game especially in the finals.a huge reason why the celtics won last year was because they believed they could regardless of the 20 point deficits.they have three all stars that feel like they can overcome anything and i believe that that's the biggest difference beetween these two teams.i'm glad the lakers lost against the pistons.hopefully this can teach them how to handle adversity and make them a more mature team.think of how hard it was for the celtics to reach the finals last year as opposed to the lakers.those series against atlanta and cavs were a blessing in disguise.the celtics were ready.the lakers cruised to reach the finals.and well,you guys know the outcome.i love my lakers and ain't dissing them but i'm not afraid to look at my team critically and admit that the celtics are still the team to beat. Lakers!!
  20. GaryF
    20. Posted by GaryF Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:08 pm EDT

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    Detroit has been the team to beat in the playoffs the last 6 years. This year is no different. Let them figure out how to play with AI. Once that is complete, look out. I look to them to have it all worked out by the All Star break. I've attended 2 games so far. Boston, and Portland. I can understand losing to Boston, but not Portland. And the loss to Minn? That's pathetic. They will work it out, and be in the ECF again.
  21. Joyce T
    21. Posted by Joyce T Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:32 pm EDT

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    The pistons are not the elite team they use to be. They don't have anyone besides amir j and sometimes Tayshun playing hard. Rodney stuckey is going to be a star. Aaron affalo and jason maxiel are good. Stop shooting 3's all the time rasheed if you can't be lucky in every game. Get upset and put the ball in the basket. Iverson should play with control and not run and bull his way over people. the pistons are just an average team now since the trade and Joe dumars gave up on the championship team but trading for Ai is not the answer. We need stronger players and good rebounders inside. How long will he wait on Ai to pull the plug just like he did on Chauncey and give the #1 jersey away again. no respect man
  22. tplodzik11
    22. Posted by tplodzik11 Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:18 pm EDT

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    I am a detroit piston fan as well and have been for
    25 yrs. I am very woried about this year.
    I never liked the trade. AI was not worth Chauncey.
    HE WAS A PROVEN LEADER.
    Look at Denver now, Who got the better deal??
    Also I think it was very disrespectful of AI to be wearing #1.
    I hope Joe D knows what he is doing.
    We aint getting Labron James so cut it out.

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