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Andy Pettitte loves the Yankees.

The Yankees love Andy Pettitte.

Yet the return of Pettitte to the Bronx in 2009 is still not a lock — even though the Yanks need starting pitching like Sean Avery needs a muzzle — because of one very not-so-simple thing.

Cold, hard cash.

After not being offered arbitration earlier this week, which would have at least guaranteed him his $16 million 2008 salary, the native Texan and his agent are sticking to their guns and saying that's the magic number to get Dandy Andy out of bed next year.

Meanwhile, the Yankees are offering $10 million for the one-year contract, preferring to save the cash for better free agent hurlers who may or may not be interested in joining the club.  

From the New York Times:

"We'd like to have him back," General Manager Brian Cashman said Wednesday. "It's come to the arena of trying to achieve common ground on money, which is easier said than done."

Though we're not talking about CC or Manny-type dollars here, I still think this little spat is fascinating in its own way. On one hand, Pettitte is just like any of us who would bristle at a paycut at any point in our career. On the other, his skills are declining, he already has more money than he could ever spend and the Yankees were supportive in that whole steroid matter earlier this spring. I say the Yanks should offer him $13 million, Pettitte should accept and then we can all call it a day after the lovefest that will inevitably ensue.  

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  1. Saro G
    1. Posted by Saro G Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:46 pm EDT

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    Could SOMEONE make a splash signing/trade already? Now we're talking about a #3/4 starter who is in the early stages of being washed up. No way he's worth anything close to $16M.
  2. Duk
    2. Posted by 'Duk Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:07 pm EDT

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    You don't want to talk about Bob Howry to the Giants, Saro?
  3. Saro G
    3. Posted by Saro G Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:46 pm EDT

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    I love the moves the Giants made to shore up their pen. They'll help ensure fewer blown leads for Lincecum's games. Too bad Howry and Affeldt can't play the outfield. Or can they?...
  4. Timothy O
    4. Posted by Timothy O Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:10 pm EDT

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    I love Pettitte, always have and the Yanks should bring him back to pitch in the New Stadium, but not for anything close to $16M. He hasn't been worth that kind of dough in a long time! He turns 37 this summer and the economy is in a meltdown, what is he and his agent thinking.
  5. Timothy O
    5. Posted by Timothy O Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:10 pm EDT

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    I love Pettitte, always have and the Yanks should bring him back to pitch in the New Stadium, but not for anything close to $16M. He hasn't been worth that kind of dough in a long time! He turns 37 this summer and the economy is in a meltdown, what is he and his agent thinking.
  6. Anthony C
    6. Posted by Anthony C Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:33 pm EDT

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    i agree with saro, something big needs to happen..something has to give, i want to get this offseason rolling..
    as a yankee fan im actually more concerned about getting burnett, i think he would be great in new york.
  7. Anthony C
    7. Posted by Anthony C Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:33 pm EDT

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    HEY DUK,
    why not get a live chat going like silver and skeets do? a nice hour or so of baseball talk will do everyone some good.
  8. Lazarus
    8. Posted by Lazarus Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:34 pm EDT

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    As a Sox fan I also think that Burnett would be great in New York.. you guys need another Pavano.. As a baseball fan I hope that teams come to their senses about that guy. Pettite, well, given his second half last season, who can blame the Yankees? The want to actually compete next season.
  9. davfied
    9. Posted by davfied Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:37 pm EDT

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    Funny. The $13M is the exact amount I thought of. That is splitting the difference and should make all concerned happy.
  10. OONTZ
    10. Posted by OONTZ Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:46 pm EDT

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    16 million for pettite... that says quite a bit about the quality of starting pitching in baseball today... I think 10 million is even a bit to much for guy..
    Of course since its the yankees I think they should lock him up for the next 5 years at 30 million a season..
  11. El
    11. Posted by El Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:57 pm EDT

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    a 6 million pay cut is too steep. i think and agree it is fair if the Yankees offer him 13 millions. if the Yankees do stand at 10 million a year then it should include some incensives in this deal to make it fair and show loyalty to one of the great player they had as Yankee.
  12. Saro G
    12. Posted by Saro G Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:46 pm EDT

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    The Yankees are better off signing Ollie Perez. Erratic yes, but he still has great stuff. Pettitte was awful in the second half this year.
  13. Jay Mac
    13. Posted by Jay Mac Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:29 pm EDT

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    Andy is worth 10-12 million if he does what he did last year. (hot first half cold second half)
    If he does what he did 2 years ago, he is worth 16-20 million (cold first half hot second half-what an August!)
  14. lllaro
    14. Posted by lllaro Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:31 pm EDT

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    my goodness...10 million for pitching every fifth day or so... i would take half and pitch every other day.......
  15. Rob R
    15. Posted by Rob R Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:25 pm EDT

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    at what point do people begin to stop categorizing andy pettite as such a great guy? what about the steroids probe? how about the fact that, for someone who is as "religious" as he is, he is seeking to play a game 30-35 times for $16 million, and not a penny less?
    i wonder if andy pettite and his millions upon millions of dollars will fit through the eye of a (steroids) needle?
  16. Duk
    16. Posted by 'Duk Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:07 pm EDT

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    Not a bad idea, Anthony C. What time's good for you?
  17. Buffalo1
    17. Posted by Buffalo1 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:42 pm EDT

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    Rob R - good point.
  18. Brandon G- Talkhoops.net
    18. Posted by Brandon G- Talkhoops.net Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:09 pm EDT

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    In a stunning move, the San Francisco Giants have signed every available free agent. When asked for comment Brian Sabean was quoted as saying "Someone had to take the reigns with the Yankees not overspending on everyone. Plus giving too much money to marginal talent is the best and fastest way to rebuild, right?"
  19. LA guy
    19. Posted by LA guy Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:06 pm EDT

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    Andy Pettite is not worth even $10 million. The guy barely broke even last year and now he wants good pitcher money. Andy, quit your whining and play the game. I'm tired of hearing about money in all sports. Can't anyone play because they love the game. Andy Pettite is washed up like his good buddy Clemens.
    Money, Money, Money!!! Thats all you ever hear about and its the same ole song and dance. These guys need to shut up and play the game the way it used to be played. You have mediocre, at best, guys asking for good money and they haven't proven themselves in the last couple of seasons.
  20. Moomaw
    20. Posted by Moomaw Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:52 pm EDT

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    I think a million should do the trick for Pettite. At the most he works 2/3 of a workday and then only every 5 or 6 days. He should get on his knees and thank the Lord that there are 30 teams instead of the old 16. If it was the latter he'd have been out of the majors 4 or five years ago. A 2 x 4 to the head would be a good wake-up call for these bloated egos.
  21. Saro G
    21. Posted by Saro G Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:46 pm EDT

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    LOL, Brandon G
  22. Cody L
    22. Posted by Cody L Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:28 pm EDT

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    Aren't we forgetting that Torre's Dodgers or the pitching hungry astros could swoop in and take Andy. Yankees are preoccupied with signing CC, Lowe, Manny, and every 'big name' free agent. I wouldn't be be surprised if something like that happens.
  23. dawg
    23. Posted by dawg Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:55 pm EDT

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    Pettite is so not worth $10 million. He should be lucky if they give him $5 million, He has been nothing but a bum the last two years. Now I'm a huge Yankee fan but we need new and better talent in that position if we are going to compete next year, and Cashman if you are reading this drop me a line, I'll tell you what needs to happen and who to go towards.
  24. liljp99
    24. Posted by liljp99 Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:51 pm EDT

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    put him in boston and he can make the yanks pay another way
  25. joarby2
    25. Posted by joarby2 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:37 pm EDT

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    Most of you on this board know very little to nothing about Andy and what he has meant to the NYY. Bottom line is he is a proven winner and has been for a long time! He is one of the best clutch pitcher in all of baseball particularly down the stretch and during the post seasons! Question is does he deserve the $16 Mil...my answer is YES! I'll tell you why:
    Andy has been with the NYY for most of his career and he wants to pitch for only the NYY.
    They are throwing 140Mil at fat ass and he hasn't even responded in nearly a month.
    What is $6M to these fools...I don't get it.
    I suggest 10M for half of season along with the signing of Manny, Tex and 1 other top pitcher in FA. If they don't sign those players then why bother with Andy!

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