Are Tom Brady’s struggles similar to Peyton Manning’s in 2015? | You Pod To Win The Game
Yahoo Sports Senior NFL Writer Charles Robinson and Senior Writer Frank Schwab discuss the Tampa Bay Buccaneers loss to the Green Bay Packers in Week 3, and debate what the rest of the season looks like for the Tom Brady-led Bucs.
CHARLES ROBINSON: Green Bay-Tampa Bay, this one-- OK. The Packers win 14-12. This whole game to me-- and we saw people on-- Tony Dungy was talking about it in the prime-time game. I mean, I agree with Dungy. He thought they had the perfect 2-point conversion play set up at the end, that Leonard Fournette was going to walk in. It sure looked like it. They just ran out of time. Tom Brady was clearly frustrated. He didn't get the play off. I don't know what the miscommunication was there.
I think this team can get better if I envision a team with Mike Evans back, which, by the way, he might have cost the team a game now. Maybe--
FRANK SCHWAB: Oh, he did. They score more than 12 points with Mike Evans.
CHARLES ROBINSON: But Mike Evans gets on the field. Chris Godwin gets on the field I think Cole Beasley can actually be a good player for Tom. And I am not ruling out Rob Gronkowski, who was at this game, by the way, as a fan . I think you get that unit back together, see how the offense plays out. I think Fournette's looked pretty good. I still think there's a chance for this team to get better. But you're seeing some screw-ups.
And clear and away, Mike Evans missing this game-- I mean, this game might matter, Frank. This is what we'll be talking about. If they miss it by a game, or they miss some home field or something else--
FRANK SCHWAB: It could be the reason they're playing at Lambeau Field in January. And they can win there. They've done it before. But to your point, yeah, it definitely cost them.
You know, I did a radio hit this week, and somebody basically asked, is Tom Brady 2015 Peyton Manning? And I was like, what are you talking about? Like, really? Any offense without Evans-- God, when Julio missed this game. Like you said, Gronk, Donovan, [INAUDIBLE].
CHARLES ROBINSON: Yeah, Julio, I forgot about Julio.
FRANK SCHWAB: Julio. Right. Russell Gage is limping through this whole game. This is a skeleton crew. And of course Brady is going to struggle here. He's not going to be lighting it up. I'm not willing to sit here and say Tom Brady's looking like he's 45 years old. That just-- no. I can't even get a fair assessment.
Now, if all these guys come back, and they're still stuck on 5 points or whatever they add, like in a fourth quarter, yeah, OK. Then it's a little bit of a concern. That delayed game at the end was-- they broke the huddle with 11 seconds left. You know you're going for 2. You're down 8 points.
CHARLES ROBINSON: Yeah, it's ridiculous.
FRANK SCHWAB: You know you're going for 2. You need a play ready to go. Get it in. So they call this play. 11 seconds-- they don't get it lined up earlier. It was 8 seconds left. And you got motion coming, and Tom's got two plays, and he's killing one. And it's just bad coaching.
CHARLES ROBINSON: It's on Leftwich and Brady, right?
FRANK SCHWAB: Absolutely. I don't even think it's Tom Brady, because--
CHARLES ROBINSON: Hmm.
FRANK SCHWAB: I don't know. I guess I should say, I don't know the exact timing of the communication or what happens. But I don't think they could have feasibly run that play in the amount of time they had. And I don't know if that's Brady being a little slower to the left. I don't think so. I'm putting this more on Leftwich than Brady. Maybe I'm wrong. But it was just-- it's a fiasco.
And it changes your whole-- like you said, Fournette probably does walk in where, from the 7-yard line, your chances of getting a 2-pointer are tough. It is really tough to score it that way.
CHARLES ROBINSON: I just think Brady, at this stage of his career, has practiced enough and knows what their best 2-point conversion plays are. And if he's got to kill one, he should be able to call that and do it at the line of scrimmage. I'm going to put him in the hot seat, too, with Leftwich. One of those guys, or maybe both of them, should have had a better grasp on this.
But again, these people-- the Manning comparison, to me, is ridiculous. Anyone who says that literally is not watching games, because his arm looks fine. There's no question in my mind.
FRANK SCHWAB: I think so. I think so, yeah.
CHARLES ROBINSON: And once again, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Antonio Brown, Rob Gronkowski--
FRANK SCHWAB: Julio Jones. We're talking about--
CHARLES ROBINSON: What?
FRANK SCHWAB: --maybe like a batch of five Hall of Famers right there.
CHARLES ROBINSON: No, no, but I'm just talking about from last season. If people just want to make that comparison from last season-- oh, they're scoring half as many points this year as they did last year-- literally, look at just those four players. It's stupid. It's stupid. I will call these people stupid if you are trying to compare that situation with a better offensive line to Russell Gage, Cole Beasley, who you just picked up and was on practice squad two minutes ago-- Yeah. I mean, come on, man. This is just stupid.
FRANK SCHWAB: I do agree. I will say one thing before we get out of here just about the Packers. It was a little concerning that they couldn't put this game away. Now, the Bucs defense is really good. But man, it was 14-6 literally forever. And you're like, OK, this drive, the Packers-- this drive, the Packers-- and they just couldn't do it.
We've questioned the Packers offense in this post-Davante Adams world. And it would have been nice to see them step on their throats and put this game away. They had a million chances to do it. But it's a win that will matter when we see these teams in early January.