Brazil leads world rankings, US remains at No. 11

How can we even talk (with a straight face) of a u.s. dominance over mexico?
the win-loss record of late doesn't show one important fact:
we have never beaten mexico in mexico.
i mean, it's senseless to even talk about it.
we are still a home team against mexico. we can beat them at home, but we can't beat them home. on the other hand, they beat us at home from time to time.
on that part, they are undefeated. simple as that.
the mls was also talking big about comparisons with the mexican league, until the concacaf champions league showed up and we were put in our place.
a lot of people has eaten a lot of humble pie out of that one.
now, let's go to south africa and let's try to do well, unlike how we've done in most world cups.
we will become a lot better when we face facts and realities.

Manny

1. In 2002 Mexico coached by the same coach they have now ,lost early in the knock out round of the gold cup to South Korea. Mexico didn't even make the top 4 in a Concaf championship I think they didn't send their best team. It's a valid excuse!

2. Don't say, but they didn't lose 5-0 in the final. Using that logic: when Brazil lost to France 4-0 in the 1998 world cup final it was a worse result than Argentina 's early exit in 2002.

The usa is ranked right!!! yall are haters!!! you can say all you want but we did beat spain and almost beat brazil, doesn't matter how you won and we did win!!!

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Just to clarify the statement below..............MEXICO DOES SUCK!!!

Mexico sucks!!!!

Manny:

1. La Volpe had plenty of original excuses when Mexico lost in 2005 at Columbus. (not b-team excuse though)
2. I'd prefer the excuses to "getting mad" : Marquez 2002, Marguez 2009 and a certain incident vs Panama and Sanchez's trip after donovan's goal in 2007.
3. When mexico loses their next game to the usa do you think anyone will shake hands. Probably not since they fired Sven.
4. By the way ,Sven was given a tough job. Mexico's prelim group was way too strong ,while Costa Rica's was weak. The USA team could easily have struggled in that group.

remember when they had the US 4th...
lol
now that was hilarious

USA is still the best team in CONCACAF unfortunately for Mexico and it's fans they have a very hard time dealing with that,the results at the end of the day say second place isn't a good place be to year after year.............................

Mexicans should shut up and be happy they're even in the WC, not too many months back they were abandoning ship and it looked like they'd be watching South Africa on TV.

Goodmorningto all Donald when we lose we dont make excuses we get mad because we lost even if our b, c w/e team loses we get mad im not going to lie. We tied T&T we wanted to beat them with our best playerers thats why some people saying that it wasnt our best players for not wining but never for losing buddy if we lose we lose .unlike the USA always saying its because it was there "B team" honestly there wearing the US jersey they should give it all they got have pride not lose 5-0 in a gold cup final in your own country.and just the same way your tired of hearing about the cups we did win is about the same way im tired of hearing how you guys dominated Mexico fo a decade on your own soil. ty goodbye now

#192

1.Maybe the european teams that visit here ,won't complain about how cold it is in Columbus in February. It was above 50 went mexico lost at Columbus this year, and will be colder that that in South Africa for the world cup. The week before the game it was below freezing in columbus. Fifa's president thinks that Mls schedule should have more games in the winter in order to have the same schedule as other world leagues. Fifa has never regulated what temperature is too cold for play, but they have claimed Bolivia's city is too high. Yes, I know Mexico is only 7500 ft to about 12,000 for the other city in question.

2. The Usa plays a majority of it's friendlies with top european teams on the road, but I'm happy that Mexico's attitude toward scheduling friendlies with top teams is changing. They will want to use more of their best players for those games and will have to manage call ups. Perhaps they will push the clubs to change their policies on releasing top players. When that happens, those Elo rating cited in past posts will be more legitimate.

185. Posted by Richard S - Well the fans might think that Brazil is the best team in the World, however, most of the book makers have Spain as the odds on favorite to win the WC in 2010. Rankings don't mean much until the final match has been played. You have 32 teams coming into WC 2010 - all with a clean slate and tied at #1! Any one of the 32 teams could win it all, although realistically - some teams have a better chance than others! The World Cup has been dominated by either Europe or South America. Since its inception in 1930 - South American teams have won 9 WC's and the Europeans have won 9 WC's. And - it has only been SA against Euro in all these matches - the Euro teams have been Runner's up 14 times while the SA teams have been Runner's Up 4 times. 2010 could be the year that the World Cup goes to another part of the World!!!! Or, it could be the year that either South America or Europe gets WC #10.

Big whoop!! Just like in college football - rankings are useless! The only ranking that counts is the FINAL one after all the matches have been played!

http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/114/mexico/2009/10/12/1556678/mexico-look-to-england-netherlands-for-possible-friendlies


They want to play Holland and England plus a third team, but not sure if it will be European. I love the idea of Spain visiting Azteca....they should do a home and away.

COPAmundial(post 192)...That'd be cool if they did. I'd like to see them go over there and play somebody other that "local" teams. Who are they playing? I've looked EVERYWHERE and can't find a thing about Mexico going to Europe in 2010. I'm not saying it's not true...I just can't find anything about it.

I'm so pissed that ARG qualified for WC. If they lost it means less competion for Brazil. Brazil for 2010 and 2014. America is ranked too high for my standards though. Spain and Brazil are a bit close too.

funny thing about brazil
they get owned by france - a team known for underperforming

@Richard S,

Mexico has 3 dates in Europe before the World Cup as well. We beat Ghana in England earlier in the year...sorry they werent European.

Mexico also has a date with Spain in Azteca after the World Cup next year. Maybe they wont *itch and complain like little girls about altitude.

the USA is ranked too high, FIFA probably does this for financial reasons, like not to lose the USA completely ... they know MEX is on board anyways, so it does not matter .... Spain could win .... or not !

I'm tired of BRA getting easy WC victories .... in 1990 ARG should have won, but the ref gave GER a penalty in the 80th minute !!! ... WTF ??? .... what a joke and then BRA won it OT or S/O over Sweden, what a crock.

FRA 3 BRA 0 ... now that was FUN TO WATCH eh .... the brasileros crying when they knew the party was over ! .... Zidane at this top and and nobody could score for Brasil ..... only cry !

The WC is good and bad ... ARG has had really tough groupings, with Holland and England recently, and then Mexico in 2nd round ... BRA have had it soooo easy, easy group stages and then Ukraine or Serbia for 2nd roung, gimme a break.

This time I hope ARG get easy 1ns round, easy 2nd round, and then 1 or 2 good matches to win WC !!!

Manny :

1. The us fans only make the "b team excuse" when it's valid. Gold cup 2009 and copa america 2007.No excuses for any other bad results. Mexican fans are using that b team excuse for why they only tied T&t.

2. I'm tired of hearing about the1999 confed cup and youth tournament victories. I've already shown how weak mexico's group was in confed cup 1999 and the 1990 suspension casts doubt over any future youth team victories.

3. Another poster wanted to make regional championships and the world cup+ qualifiers the only games that count in the ratings. Okay, only if Fifa allows the national teams the same latitude in calling up players from their clubs for regional championships as a world cup qualifer. It would be nice if all regional tournaments could be held at the same time. National teams would then be able to call up their best players without fear of future denials by club teams for some friendlies. If that were true, no more B team excuses!

Mikebdb22(post 186)...As I said, "my experience" with their fans has been pretty good. Not saying they're perfect by any means, but ok considering their truly elite status in soccer. It's obviously open to interpretation for each of us to decided. Nonetheless, he shouldn't be in here talking smack...this has nothing to do with Brazil, that's all.

Excuse me brazilian fans are not that humble......they flaunt that there the best....