mikeb: People talk about these debates like these candidates are going to say something different. This election has been over covered. It's like watching open-hand poker. Everybody knows what's going on. Everybody knows what's on the table. Everybody knows what's at stake. PS it all means bull. The haves will vote for incumbent. The have not's will "maybe" vote for Trump looking for a hand out. PS ethically and morally neither one of these characters should be president. Who cares what they have to say tonight.