Roloson stops 58 shots as Isles beat Leafs

@ 88

Come on now 88, you yourself have admitted you are not the most objective person when it comes to Montreal. If I have a pro-Habs slant, then you have an anti-Habs slant. I do my best, but please don't preach to me to be more objective!

I was simply refuting the finite points you brought up, not going down the list of Gainey's moves. Never did I say that Gainey has not made a bad move, so please stop putting words in my mouth. Of course I don't like everything Gainey does, but some of those things were necessary.

I hated that he left all the UFAs this year to the last minute and refused to hold negotiations during the season, in essence putting himself in a very tough position come July 1. I hate that he let Komisarek go. I hate Gomez's salary, I would prefer it if he had gone after a proven goal scorer. I hated when he traded Huet. I understood, in hindsight, it was necessary though. So, no, I am hardly Gainey's biggest fan, but not every move he's made has been bad.

I wouldn't say Carbo's firing was panicky...he was not a great coach.

"Horrible drafting. If you think Louis Leblanc is ever going to strap 'em on with the Habs, well, good luck to the kid."
-and in the same post -
"You well know the draft is a crap shoot"
-The fans like seeing french Canadian guys...and since it's such a crap shoot, it's hard to criticize this pick, again, please reserve criticism until there is actual proof to back up what you say instead of your own personal speculation.-

Sorry, meant ragging, not raging...forgot a "g". You love to rag on Gainey, not rage.

"Why did it take this long to get rid of Latendresse?"
-He's only 22 years old, they gave him a legit shot.-

"Think about the trades he has made, and ask yourself where is Janne Ninimma now?"
-I addressed this already...re: a deal had to be made, much like the Roy deal, sometimes you have to take what you can get.-

"Kessel is playing like a superstar right now for us - again right now. 50 goal scorer for years as long as he stays healthy."
-You are not guaranteed anything, he's never scored 50. Also he had Savard. And to reiterate, my point was you have nothing to flank him with, so why pull the trigger when you know the rebuild will take years, giving away those draft picks while you will finish so low?-

"...you well know that Chiarelli may or may not get a quality NHL player out of that trade."
-He will if the Leafs finish in the bottom 5-

-So slant your totally (anti)-Hab arguments with a little objectivity OK? Thanks. I await your reply.-

"P.S. Yes, the Habs have been very fortunate to have had stellar netminding to go 12-11-1 so far this year. Do you actually see that continuing? Do you see Price standing on his head for the rest of the year? Did you see him lose it at one point tonight because his players were playing so poorly."

-Yes, I fully expect Price to play well most nights, he is a tremendous talent. The team may not play that well, but he will. Great example was tonight against Pitt. The team wasn't stellar, but Price continues to play great hockey. This kid is the real deal and in a few years will be among the elite in the NHL. I love that he got mad (hardly 'lost it'), that shows he's passionate and wants to win. That doesn't bother me at all, he is so clam most of the time, it's nice to see some animation occasionally As for the team, yeah they are in tough, lots of injuries and a tough schedule coming up. I expect they will lose some games. I, however, will not lose any sleep over it.-

"Again, some objectivity please. Again, thanks."
-Same goes for you, I was objective talking about the Leafs, I always try to be, in fact I was trying to give you a rational response, which is what I thought you wanted. And I think I did it pretty fairly, without attacking. But I am curious about your criticism of the Leafs. That is, if you have any?-

Final note, for future posts, please just respond without talking down to me. I certainly don't like being talked down to, as I would imagine you don't. So comments intended to provoke me like "think Peyton think" and "Peyton Are you with the Habs P/R department?" are unnecessary.

How cute! Cathy P(usslicker) has created her very own fan! Let me guess, this fan thinks you're attractive(a real ladies man) and brilliant, right? Give us a break Stuart Smalley; you're NOT smart, you're NOT popular and doggone it people do NOT like you. At least the post was correctly titled, as it did cause me to "laugh a lot"; a first time for one of your posts!

Blue blood i've got news for you i am a leafs fan .But i feel a lot like mikemiself. Lets get real .do you really think the leafs will ever in your lifetime win a cup the way they are going?This will be 5 in a row they haven't even been in the playoffs. so respectfully Blue lighten up .Cathy and Mikemiself have given us the way back to respectability,we may not like it. t wont be easy. Stop trading our picks.Get rid of Burke.I do like Wilson and don't blame him.And kessel is a good hockey player but give him a chance ,calling him a superstar now is way premature if ever.I have been a long suffering Leaf fan since 1958.Although the next 9 years were good.But i do realize strong medicine and measures are needed to right this ship.Not the easy repairs many hope for.I hope you take this in the right spirit.

Yeah sure Laff Blood ,you scared little freak According to you i'm Joe Cash, Red Blood,rare 45's,Mikemiself and a host of others! But come to think of it are you Fat assman, Make T, Laff Abomination, Laffs,88 ? No i guess as dumb and frightned as you are all that stupity couldn,t come from one place? Could it Laffer?

@Post59 and 60

What a pathetic loser you are Cu@tbag. I see you are now creating alter egos to pat yourself on the back. F@kn hilarious.Seek help you need it.

What kind of life (or lack there of) or emotional problems must a person have to come on a Leafs forum just to spout unintelligent and mostly incoherant drivel about a team that they dont even cheer for?
How deep must the emotional scars go? Where you wronged
by a leafs fan in a past life?
How can we as leaf fans help you to find peace with your lack of life?
Just how trivial and lonely is your life that you have nothing better to do?
Lets see, I dont want to talk about my favourite team, why dont I go on another teams site and cut them up because Im a loser with nothing better to do.
My bet is that they just hate Toronto in general.
or maybe theyre just jerks?

@Post48

Joe ASS

Draft picks are a crap shot idiot. If they do pan out you are lucky to see big results in year 2 or 3 unless it's a Crosby or Gretz. All you morons seem to forget how Kessel has been producing so I'll gladly take him for the picks. Wait till next year when he scores 50. I notice lately how you keep bringing up your Homosexuality.Sounds like you should get out of the closet being as you are the organizer of next years pride parade.You can dance in the streets with your junk hanging out with the old bull dyke(Ya know The Dirty old Lot lizard CathyP)Don't forget your Homo(Habs)jerseys.I think we need a poem now as the Verbal diarrhea is about to commence.

ROLOSON to the Hawks!!!!

Cathy they are truly out of your league . You are superb.

Today's spammer is "Helen" pushing that garbage SCAM website.....Help report these bottom feeders....Seems Yahoo moves quicker when multiple sources report on them.

@ 88 - All they have RIGHT NOW is Kessel !!!!!!!!! Where would they be if they did not have HIM ?????? There GOALTENDING is a joke !!!!!!! Its a good thing KABERLE never got traded or they would have no OFFENCE !!!!!!!!!! The HIGH PRICED TALENT they have they should be a lot HIGHER in the STANDINGS !!!!!!!! Happy Now ?????????????

Peyton Are you with the Habs P/R department? Not one negative thing to say about Gainey's horrible five year plan? And now Canadiens fans are enduring the first year of his next plan. Two coaches fired in panicky moves - his great and good friend Guy Carbonneau last year and Claude Julien before that.
Horrible drafting. If you think Louis Leblanc is ever going to strap 'em on with the Habs, well, good luck to the kid. Hope he is very very special. Comes from near my childhood home so I wish him luck.
"Raging" on Gainey. Really? You think that is rage? Legitimate and mild criticism compared to my Hab loving pals in Montreal. And www.montrealgazette.com and Habs Inside/Out. You know very well that Montreal has been calling for Gainey's head for at least two or three years now.

Now I will let you post some negatives about what Gainey has done. We disagree about every move he has made. Why did it take this long to get rid of Latendresse? What happened to Pierre Dagenais? Think about the trades he has made, and ask yourself where is Janne Ninimma now? Be a little objective.

Re the Leafs trade to Boston for Kessel. Think Peyton think. Kessel is playing like a superstar right now for us - again right now. 50 goal scorer for years as long as he stays healthy. You well know the draft is a crap shoot, you well know that Chiarelli may or may not get a quality NHL player out of that trade. We have a guaranteed 22-year-old 50 goal a year sniper in Phil Kessel. So slant your totally pro-Hab arguments with a little objectivity OK? Thanks. I await your reply.

P.S. Yes, the Habs have been very fortunate to have had stellar netminding to go 12-11-1 so far this year. Do you actually see that continuing? Do you see Price standing on his head for the rest of the year? Did you see him lose it at one point tonight because his players were playing so poorly. Again, some objectivity please. Again, thanks.

@88 / Leafs Nation..re:the Habs

RIbeiro, like Latendresse, just wasn't getting it done in Montreal. They both got complacent, and I think assumed they could play halfheartedly and still have a job with their favourite NHL team. Yes, Ribeiro is playing much better now, but he had to go somewhere else to do it. Latendresse was asked to play a game akin to that of Holmstrom (big body in front of the net) and he refused to do it.
I'd take Gomez over Higgins, granted the salary is not ideal, but as for McDonagh, let's see how he is when he finally gets to the NHL, if/when it happens. Then we can rate that trade. The Habs also got Tom Pyatt, who I am a fan of, in that trade.
As for the Huet trade, I don't think Huet would have fared any better in those playoffs (he had very little playoff experience at that point as well). Gainey knew Price was going to be the guy for the Habs, so he made the deal, and I hardly think Price "stank it up" that year.
Gill replaces Komisarek (the one Hab I was truly sad to see go this summer), they needed a big presence on D.
We won tonight...despite $24 million, give or take, of salary out of the lineup. Lucky or not, that's the record. So, I don't see your point there, and a win in OT is also a legit win.

As for the Leafs this year, I think the fans need to find the patience necessary to sit through a long rebuild. I know this will never happen, but that's usually what it takes when you are in the Leafs situation. It was great to get Kessel, but it's kind of like having the cherry on top of the sundae without actually having the sundae. Good teams don't normally go out and acquire all the talent they need from FA or trades, they have to cultivate the draft picks they have. I think the Leafs would be wise to do the same. It would be pretty hard to stomach a Boston top 5 pick courtesy of the Leafs in next year's draft I would imagine.

Also raging on Gainey is a bit hypocritical when the Leafs were only recently able to pry themselves away from the infamous JFJ.

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@54 Beaver Killer. I would like to know what team you support and why? Why do you come onto Leaf game threads and just trash the Leafs and their supporters? Are you mentally ill like Cathy and Joey? Please advise. Am quite curious.

@53 Mike T. Thanks.
What will fascinate me is if Cathy can come onto this post and tell us a little about her Canadiens, and do it in a cogent intelligent fashion. I think the only thing she is capable of is ranting and raving like a lunatic about the Toronto Maple Leafs. I have not read one single intelligent thing from her yet. I hope everyone will report the freak to the Abuse people at Yahoo. I certainly do every chance I get because she is so tiresome with her sick mentally ill crap. Hopefully Yahoo will ban the freak and we won't have to read her drivel anymore.

88

Well said.

@51 Cathy. OK, so let's talk about your Canadiens. Boob finally unloaded Latendresse to the Wild for another French guy to appease the French media in Montreal. Great move Bob! Ribeiro for Ninnima. Great trade eh? Traded Higgins and McDonagh who is an excellent prospect to the Rangers for Scotty Gomez and his outrageous $7.5 million dollar contract. Sather burned Bob on that one. That trade allowed the Rangers to free up enough cap space to sign Gaborik. Give Bob a hand there.
Traded Huet on the eve of the 2007 playoffs with the Canadiens having won the Eastern conference. For a mere draft pick. Goes with Carrie Price. Price understandably stank it up as a rookie, and the Canadiens barely got by Boston in seven and then dispatched by the Flyers in five games in the second round.
So many many other gaffes. The Hall Gill signing is a joke. Your team is losing 3-2 right now to Columbus and will lose. The score should be about 6-1 Jackets if not for Price's heroics. Your team is very very lucky to be 11-11-1 with eight OT victories and only one loss. The Cardiac Canadiens are going nowhere this year.
Why don't you talk about your team Cathy? Do you not know anything about hockey except to come onto Leaf game posts and rag, rag and rag some more you freakin' dirtbag?
The only decent forwards you have are Plekanec so far, Moen and Cammalleri. Gionta out. Gomez out. They called up Sergei Kostitsyn tonight in yet another desperation move. Maybe that will get his brother AK46 going, but I somehow doubt it.
Stick to your Canadiens posts and leave the Leafs alone you delusional negative mental case. Thanks.

Cathy P. Stick to your Canadiens. Get off these posts you psycho.
JOE CASH. You are also a freakin' dumbass. Cheer for your Wings and stick to Wings posts.
@25 mikemiself You know the Leafs cannot bring up Kadri. If you don't know that and you think Gretz should be our coach then just stop talking about Toronto OK? I know you're a fan, but the fact you don't know we cannot bring up Kadri now tells me you don't know much about this team. Too bad. Moving Kaberle up to the wing? You know dickall about hockey my friend. White yes. Move him up maybe although he is a stalwart for us back on the blueline.

Hanson coming up as announced today. You know we have outplayed teams consistently this year and outshot teams consistently this year - do not give up hope. This team is not built to succeed this year. Just a fact. We have many UFA's after this year that we will jettison, and start from scratch again for the most part.
Again, come on man. No GM in the league would trade for 36-year-old Jason Blake and his $4.5 million salary!

@31 D Someone who knows what they are talking about re the Leafs. Well done. Gretz stank as a coach in Phoenix and would stink here. Burke knows it would be a circus to hire him. Wilson is not going anywhere. He and Burke running Team USA, and our poor start this year is not Wilson's fault. Poor goaltending, lack of finish around the net and a lot of bad luck and some bad play has us in this fix. We won't make the playoffs this year, and that is regrettable. But we will succeed soon enough. I hope we can come back this year and at least finish .500 and a respectable record.

Da Fat Man Keep the poetry coming bro' Love it. Hopefully we can eradicate this pestilence, the vermin like Beaver Killer, Cathy Psycho and her bf Joey Cash from Leslie and Sheppard right off these posts.

88 Cathy, Beaver Killer and Joey.

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no first round picks for the next two years YESSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! man i would be happy to be a boston fan right now, their future looks real bright

damn hooligans and your hockey

2010 and 2011 first round picks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! come to poppa !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahahahahaha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wow, that many SOGs and the Leafs lost? Amazing.

Hey ,make T. # 36,Gobble, Gobble,slurp ,spurt ,aww don't cry your just in time for "thanks,your gettin it up the butt again''diner.You and fatassman one's a turkey the others plain hog! Neither knows a thing about the sport. Read ,Listen Learn ,from one of your own at post # 25, thats not either a pervert or delusional!