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One look at the Puck Daddy inbox over the last few weeks reaffirms that DirecTV is winning the war of attrition in its stalemate with Versus. Earlier this season, we'd receive a few emails a day from fans enraged at both sides of the dispute; they've been reduced to a trickle now, and the fact that the NHL's cable partner is 'network non grata' on DTV seems like it's become the norm.

Versus told us this morning what it's told us in previous conversations: That negotiations are ongoing and that there is a "zero total dollar increase" on the table that DirecTV has yet to counteroffer, while DTV continues to claim Comcast is asking for more money to air Versus programming. It's a faceoff in which neither side is blinking, thanks to DirecTV not seeing an overwhelming number of viewer defections over Versus and Versus being able to boast about record ratings despite not appearing on DTV airwaves.

Multichannel News had an update over the weekend, and pointed to one reasons why Versus hasn't been hit hard in viewership totals:

The ratings amelioration has come without DirecTV's 14 million-plus homes, as much of that subscriber loss has been made up by sneak previews on a number of cable operators and Dish Network, which has provided Versus a full berth of its homes. As such, Versus' sub count has only declined to 71 million homes from 75 million, before the DirecTV drop.

The Dish free preview, though, is slated to end on Nov. 30. However, sources familiar with the negotiations indicate that Versus and Dish are moving toward a more permanent, expanded placement for the network.

That's good news for Versus, but doesn't exactly move the puck on these talks with DirecTV. What will? It's a long-shot, but Comcast's talks for acquiring NBCU might become a factor.

From Multichannel:

Some observers in the sports TV community say another factor that could perhaps impact the Versus-DirecTV stalemate is Comcast's reported push to form a joint venture partnership with NBC Universal. They point to the potential for Versus to add replays of Notre Dame football games, and/or a pair of live Fighting Irish contests that NBC Sports can contractually shift to cable. Moreover, Versus would likely become one of NBC's stable of Olympics networks for London in 2012 (the deal wouldn't likely be closed in time for the upcoming Winter Games in Vancouver next February) and beyond, as expected to bid for the 2014 Olympics in Socchi, Russia and Rio De Janiero in 2016.

"DirecTV is playing a game of chicken. If Comcast gets NBCU, Versus could add some additional properties and become a stronger network. They could pull the offer and price might go up," said one executive familiar with the Comcast's thinking.

Again, that all seems so far down the line that it won't affect the current stalemate between Versus and DirecTV, but we're not an "executive familiar with the Comcast's thinking," so who knows?

We're on the record as saying that an NBC/Comcast merger would dramatically change the NHL's television landscape. Not sure if it does anything in this DTV/Versus mess. Keep in mind, however, that this battle has yet to spill over into Comcast's local sports networks on DTV; if Comcast eventually uses NBC properties as leverage, we could be seeing World War III between these media giants.

We're hazy on DirecTV's end game here when it comes to Versus. If it's the elimination of inflated fees from Comcast, that's on the table. If it's the ability to place Versus in a lower level of distribution, that's within DirecTV's rights; but to ask subscribers to ante up for a network it's spent the last few months disparaging as a collection of informercials seems counterproductive at the least.

Dish Network is adding viewers, but not an overwhelming total. Whatever the resolution here is with Versus, it appears to be DirecTV's finger on the trigger. Give them credit: This dispute has angered millions of hockey, football and general sports fans, and DTV has weathered the storm -- at least for the first two months.

One more hockey television note: Sports Business Journal has a piece on League-owned networks, and NHL Network was included in it. From SBJ, what's ahead for the NHL Net from COO John Collins:

One of the reasons the NHL depends on NHL Network for live games, highlights and preview shows is to give its viewers content that is in short supply elsewhere on TV.

"As of right now, we think the NHL is not getting its fair representation in the broader world of sports," Collins said.

In addition to live games, Collins expects to bolster that programming with highlights and inside access that networks don't have. He expects the better programming will play a part in helping the network expand its cable and satellite distribution footprint.

"Our longer-term plan is to get that network as broadly distributed as we can and really deliver on the promise of serving these fans, primarily with access," Collins said. "It's live game content, but it's also access that they can't get anywhere else."

Do you folks watch NHL Network? On The Fly is an indispensible highlights show, even with the banal commentary. But we find -- and this isn't a new gripe at all -- that there simply isn't enough there to rival, say, the MLB Network's coverage.

What do you want to see on NHL Network to improve it?

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  1. M
    1. Posted by M Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:11 pm EST

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    It is Unfortunate, in the end, hockey fans are fighting for the right to watch more bull riding, cage fighting and outdoor sportsman shows then the occasional hockey game. Hockey needs a real network that cares about hockey. They should bag VS altogether and increase the NHL network by making it available and affordable to any hockey fan that wants to watch it. By increasing its programming the NHL network could offset the costs any cable or satellite provider would charge for people to watch. Win-Win.
  2. Slayer
    2. Posted by Slayer Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:15 pm EST

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    More games, even if they are condensed replays and not live. More classics form playoffs in the 80's and 90's assuming they can get the rights.
  3. Johnny Appleseed
    3. Posted by Johnny Appleseed Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:17 pm EST

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    I dunno. Our campus TV programming includes NFL Network and Versus.
    As confused as I am, I kinda wish we could all just get along, and have NFLN, NHLN, MLBN, and NBAN all under one affordable TV package, and not have to slave after ESPN for all the scores, stats, etc. I watched MLBNetwork all summer, and thought that their programming was down-pat: Live updates throughout the night until all games were over, recaps of games earlier in the day, and even live-look ins of exciting moments in progress (i.e. Bases-loaded, one out situations). Then, all morning, one-hour recaps, highlights, player interviews and expert opinions. Kind of like Baseball Tonight, but better. In the afternoon, classic games and the like.
    If NHLN is similar to that (which I think it is), I'd like to watch it.
  4. Atty. Eb
    4. Posted by Atty. Eb Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:39 pm EST

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    Long as I get a piece o' da pie, who cares?
  5. Hans Gruber
    5. Posted by Hans Gruber Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:48 pm EST

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    Well I am really going to swtich over now. I mean Notre Dame football is just so exciting. Watching Charlie Weis eat a box of jelly filled is great. Versus, you still suck. Direct TV, you are a bunch of money hungry jacks.
  6. Benjamin
    6. Posted by Benjamin Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:49 pm EST

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    On The Fly needs to be in HD. This low-resolution stuff makes hockey look bush league.
  7. Zamboni's Dad
    7. Posted by Zamboni's Dad Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:50 pm EST

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    Living on the west coast, I don't miss Versus at all, and I won't until the playoffs. All of their games are on Monday (against Monday Night Football - brilliant) and Tuesday. Most start at 4 local time. I get home from work at 6. I turn on Center Ice and catch the end of the early games. When Versus was avaialble, I usually forgot to look to see if there was a game on. It was hardly much watch TV.
    And yes, I watch NHL network all the time. NHL on the Fly could use some personality (like hire Buccigross away from ESPN), but heck, I can't compare it to SportsCenter on MLB Network, because I don't watch those... I watch hockey.
  8. big audio
    8. Posted by big audio Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:52 pm EST

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    NHL Network used to replay the versus games the next day, and this season, for some unknown reason they no longer do that. So now versus games are not replayed at all, which shows a total lack of respect for NHL fans, especially since versus instead in the middle of the night runs infomercials rather than replay their games. Piece of caca.
  9. Dynamo38
    9. Posted by Dynamo38 Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:56 pm EST

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    Why can't we do away with VS and put those games on NHL Network? Okay, I realize it's not that easy, but if you think about it wouldn't that make sense? Local games I can watch on Comcast (which happens to be the local affiliate, even though I have Verizon FIOS). The rest of the games that are aired on VS could easily be covered by the NHL Network. They already carry the feeds for some HNIC games. Hell, tomorrow they are carrying the Caps vs. Islanders.
  10. Dynamo38
    10. Posted by Dynamo38 Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:58 pm EST

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    ...and by local, I mean the local game to me BTW.
  11. Dutch
    11. Posted by Dutch Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:14 pm EST

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    NHL Network that is affordable and shows some games, partners with VS/NBC during the playoffs. I think DirecTV is full of $hit, I dumped them a long time ago and glad I did. Of course I doubt they're getting enough defections from disgruntled NHL fans to change their stance. (Keep in mind VS shows college football as well) seems Hockey fans are going to other outlets to watch games and DirecTV users will only become REALLY disgruntled once the Playoffs roll around.
  12. Eric Morey
    12. Posted by Eric Morey Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:35 pm EST

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    NHL Network needs to drop NHL Live radio program and add more TV programing. More live games (7 per week minimum). NHL on the Fly and full-length and condensed replays (Similar to Rangers in 60 replays on MSG) of recent games could fill most of the remaining schedule. NHL on the Fly should be broadcast in a 16:9 format. There should be a Week in Review / Week Ahead show that repeats 6 to 8 times on Sundays.
  13. wowjimi
    13. Posted by wowjimi Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:55 pm EST

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    I am in the Flint, Michigan area. I have looked into Direct TV as an alternative to my current Charter cable. THEY DIDN'T CARRY CBC-Windsor, so forget it. No Don Cherry? No additional Olympic coverage from a Canadian station? Forget it. Deal Breaker. And that was before VS. was even an issue.
    Irrespective of the vs/direct dispute, I have always thought that if Bettman (excuse my french) wanted to promote the sport of hockey, instead of trying to force feed it to non-hockey markets, he should encourage CBC or TSN to be carried by American satellite and cable companies. Then let nature take its course. It is a great sport that will be watched by some, but not all. But certainly is should be available to more households than can currently view it.
  14. m_762
    14. Posted by m_762 Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:02 pm EST

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    A number of people have coaxed DTV to comp their Center Ice subscription for the season, both subscribers and non-subscribers. I'm curious how much revenue they have lost by not collecting these fees.
    If you haven't had your subscription picked up yet, call DTV, tell you are considering dropping them and tell them if they give you Center Ice you'd consider it a good faith move to keep you around while they sort out the Versus mess. They will turn on your Center Ice and not charge if you aren't a subscriber or they will issue you a $160 statement credit if you already have Center Ice.
    It isn't much leverage over them but if enough people do it, it'll hit'em in the pocket book a bit.
  15. Andrew
    15. Posted by Andrew Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:03 pm EST

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    The NHLN should have more live games. They need a double header on Saturday nights. Show games not NHL on the fly. Why don't they have NHLN2 or NHLN3 THEN they could show twice the coverage. but i think the NHLN owned by comcast i think? sucks i won't get to see the good matchup tonight Pens vs Bruins
  16. J Mill
    16. Posted by J Mill Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:14 pm EST

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    Any news on the more local dispute between Fox Sports-Midwest and D-TV AND MediaCom? I haven't been able to catch a Blues game on TV in almost a month!
  17. M
    17. Posted by M Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:17 pm EST

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    @jimiwow, very good point if they offered those channels to the american markets it would be in place programming that knows and respects the sport.
  18. Edge
    18. Posted by Edge Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:24 pm EST

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    I agree with the comments stating that VS needs more games. I also think VS should find better play by play guys. As for the NHL Network...I would like to have it in HD, but that's Comcast. I watch On the FLY everyday. I would like to see a little more personality on the show (JR might be a good fit). I enjoy the NHL Network, and I really can't comment on the other sports networks because I stick to hockey. Perhaps and NHL Network On Demand would be cool...weekly/mothly highlights. Maybe some fan voting for plays of the week. Keep the fans involved as much as possible.
  19. JohnC
    19. Posted by JohnC Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:56 pm EST

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    NHL Network's "to add" list:
    -Sign a package for CHL (major junior) games...they showed the Memorial Cup; why not show a few major junior games?
    -TSN hockey programming. In addition, simulcast their games that don't compete with Versus on Wednesday/Thursdays. In HD.
    -Increase coverage of the WJC and the World Championships. I know Universal Sports has the rights for the World Championships; at a minimum broker a same-day replay deal.
    -Go back to showing the Saturday HNIC doubleheader, or at least show the early game (if they have a 3pm game).
    -Show the HDIC tripleheader.
    -Borrow the NFL Network model and show replays of games condensed into a 60-minute format; maybe a "game of the night".
    -Air non-compete first-round playoff games that do not compete with Versus/TSN exclusives (as an example, last year's NJD/CAR series was ignored everywhere- why not just simulcast someone else's feed?).
  20. scottfitzlacy
    20. Posted by scottfitzlacy Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:03 pm EST

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    @Benjamin is dead on. The NHL Network not broadcasting in HD only cements the image of the NHL as a second-tier sports league. Suck up the costs and market your sport. Ninety percent of the games are in HD these days, and yet the NHL's flagship showcases the nightly highlights in SD. Very sad.
    And while I think the NHL Network analysts are good guys and knowledgeable, they are a FAR cry from watching the Hotstove segment on CBC. There's no reason why good analysts can't be charismatic and entertaining as well. Let's get some of them on NHL Network, someone like Kelly Hrudey. He'd be great. Though I wonder if the stiff and mechanical NHL Net hosts are the bigger part of the problem. If you watch MLB Network, which is FANTASTIC, you can't help but notice how energetic and entertaining the hosts are. And the MLB player-analysts play right off that energy.
    As for Versus, I'm bitterly accepting the dispute for now. But when the playoffs roll around, DirecTV better have an answer or I will be terminating my service.
  21. Skuba
    21. Posted by Skuba Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:09 pm EST

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    I agree, NHL Network needs to be able to have a Live Game on every night of the week, and double-headers on Saturday (if not triple-headers when possible). They already have access to some TSN and Rogers games, its the only way I can see Calgary or Vancouver play. So clearly they have the ability, time to up the ante. As far as broadcasting Radio (NHL Live) I think its important to do so, just wish they had two networks to do so. But the content isnt there yet. I love the idea of a weekly 'wrap-up' show, that would be terrific. And it should be two hours long each Sunday, an alternative to the NFL. Personally, I watch plenty of football, but enjoy the pregame of NFL Countdown on ESPN more than most of the games. To the guys on NHL On The Fly, agreed, more colorful names need to be there, like JR, and offer Chelly a job. Get ideas from Healy on the NHL side, whoever else you can get that will shed light on things that are going. There should ALWAYS be replays of the previous nights 'Game of the Night.' Considering that NHL has access to players unlike any other sport, show us that every day. Better overall production would help, and EVERYTHING in HD. High Definition was made for Hockey.
  22. breakaway
    22. Posted by breakaway Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:13 pm EST

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    I have Brighthouse cable down here in FL and they want me to pay $4 extra dollars a month for the sports package that includes the NHL Network. Surprisingly I don't have to pay extra for Versus. What's stupid is that the NHLN isn't included in the Center Ice package that I already paid for. I used to watch the NHLN all the time when I had DirecTV, but I'm not paying $4/month for one channel.
  23. Skuba
    23. Posted by Skuba Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:16 pm EST

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    Denis Potvin needs to go, by the way.
    I would be weary of showing other Leagues, it is the NHL Network after all. But for now if it means showing Live content, then so be it. World Juniors would be perfect, heck, even AHL 'Game of the Week' works. Replay IIHF games from the Olympics. And again, everything that can be shown in HD, make sure its in HD, including ALL Live programming on the Network.
  24. Svipal
    24. Posted by Svipal Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:24 pm EST

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    Hockey fans suffer.... and yet the NHL stands back and refuses to comment or get involved. The TV contract that the NHL has is a joke.
  25. IBG
    25. Posted by IBG Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:30 pm EST

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    Versucks

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