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Another day, another two NHL players speaking candidly and degradingly about Sidney Crosby of the Pittsburgh Penguins.

First is Ilya Kovalchuk of the Atlanta Thrashers, who spoke at length about several subjects -- including his newborn son -- with Dmitry Shumin of Sovetsky Sport (which will appear in the paper tomorrow; link online is here). Puck Daddy's Dmitry Chesnokov translates the following section of the interview, in which Kovalchuk talks about the differences between Crosby and Alexander Ovechkin of the Washington Capitals. From SovSport:

Not long ago Washington played Pittsburgh.  And Alex Ovechkin showed a sign to Crosby that might have meant less talk.  Did he learn it from you?  I remember that when [during one game] Crosby was given a penalty and you scored a goal, you pointed at him with your glove, and that gesture became famous in Atlanta.

KOVALCHUK: "These are emotions. Ovechkin did everything right.  [You] have to play hockey. Show on the ice what you are capable of. And the weak talk a lot. Ovechkin proved everything - scored a goal and Washington won. He had a full right to his gesture."

Crosby said that Ovechkin is a dirty player...

KOVALCHUK: "Then no one at all should play hockey! The rules in the NHL after the lockout changed considerably. Let Crosby see how [players] played in the league before. Ovechkin's style is emotional, clean hockey. That's why he is the best player in the NHL right now."

But the league in [its] promotions puts emphasis on Crosby.

KOVALCHUK: "He is local. Here a [local] player is needed to become the face of the NHL. A Russian cannot be the face of a North American league! But Ovechkin, in all characteristics, is way stronger than Crosby. I am not 'rediscovering America' -- a lot of people have mentioned so. Crosby is a great player. But he has a long way to go to Ovechkin. If I were to pick players for my fantasy team, I would definitely pick Alex. We are friends. We have similar characters, a lot of common interests. I like Ovechkin not only as a hockey player. He is closer to me in spirit."

As we've found in previous discussions with Russian players, there's a lot of animosity directed at Crosby for the whole "face of the NHL" thing, for which he really can't be blamed. But "the weak talk a lot" ... ouch. Sid's on-ice chatter has certainly cemented impressions about him.

Meanwhile, Adam Burish of the Chicago Blackhawks displayed some genuine Sidney disrespect in speaking with Sarah Spain of Mouthpiece Sports. When told that Crosby won't lace'em up for the Penguins' game against the Blackhawks, Burish's response was: "I don't know who Sidney Crosby is."

That was before he went into the Crybaby thing. Take a gander:

Both of these comments are just more evidence of something that's become a plank in the Puck Daddy platform: That Crosby is, organically and in the hockey narrative, a villain. He's a heel. It's something that James O'Brien wrote about recently on Cycle Like The Sedins, which pointed this bit from Battle of California that compared Crosby vs. Alexander Ovechkin to, of all things, "Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs. Bret Hart. (Is today wrestling day or Sarah Spain day on Puck Daddy?) From BoC:

"Stone Cold" Steve Austin vs. "The Hitman" Bret Hart: Not a bad parallel to the Alex Ovechkin vs. Sidney Crosby rivalry when you think about it. Austin/Ovechkin appeal to the simple fan with brashness and aggressiveness; Hart/Crosby are vaguely whiny, undeniably talented Canadians. Crosby might even have a disturbing obsession with baby oil and strange sunglasses for all we know.

Like any good promoter, it's up to the NHL to figure out how to put Crosby over for maximum effect.

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  1. wutwut
    1. Posted by wutwut Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:30 pm EDT

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    I don't know who Adam Burrish is.
  2. Kevin
    2. Posted by Kevin Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:16 pm EDT

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    One T in Bret Hart.
  3. declan g
    3. Posted by declan g Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:40 pm EDT

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    Everyone in the NHL knows he's a whiner. He's a whiner. Everytime something doesn't go his way he whines!
    Pens fans always argue that the rest of the league hates him because he's so good. No, I hate him because he acts like a little baby. Ovechkin isn't on my team and I don't hate him. Lecavalier isn't on my team and I don't hate him. Malkin isn't on my team and I don't hate him. There are very few players in the league that I have a severe disliking for and Crosby is probably at the top of that list right now.
    http://puckcentral.net
  4. Beev
    4. Posted by Beev Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:04 pm EDT

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    Bret "The Hitman" Hart ... Legend
  5. ccc a
    5. Posted by ccc a Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:42 pm EDT

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    Comments about players don't mean anything when it's coming from the fans but when the players are making comments then we need to listen because it does mean something - they know about what they speak.
  6. Wyshynski
    6. Posted by Wyshynski Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:21 pm EDT

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    @ Kevin --
    This either proves that, unlike yours truly, you're not blind to the point where you can't see the name spelled correctly in the quoted text below it ...
    ... Or, as is my official theory, you are in fact Jim Niedhart.
  7. Big Rich
    7. Posted by Big Rich Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:40 pm EDT

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    Adam who? I love how all these players, mostly Russian, criticize Crosby in every interview. To me, thats more childish and rude/disrespectful than anything. It's one thing to talk on the ice, like Crosby does. It's entirely another to bash someone repeatedly in public. Ovie gets interviewed and says, "whats he gonna do, cry?" and people applaud. If Sid did that, people would be riding his ass into the ground! How many points does Burrish have? 8? Crosby had that many the first week of the season. F all these cheapshot players who think it's cool to diss Crosby. And all the fans that boo him, how about you cheer your own teams on (Capitals fans i'm looking at you). You just wish you had him on your team, and you F'n know it.
  8. Beev
    8. Posted by Beev Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:04 pm EDT

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    but he in no MR. Perfect who stoned a young Mike Modano on all his shots.
    He was the Perfect Goaltender
  9. fletch81
    9. Posted by fletch81 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:42 pm EDT

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    "and the weak talk a lot." owned cindy...owned!
  10. --SLAYER--
    10. Posted by --SLAYER-- Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:38 pm EDT

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    It's nice to know that the players feel the same way about Sid, that the fans do. HAHAHA Baby.
  11. Big Rich
    11. Posted by Big Rich Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:40 pm EDT

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    I am also aware that I will be thoroughly bashed now, and I don't care... I speak the truth
  12. j_n_16
    12. Posted by j_n_16 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    If you are going to talk smack about one of the best players in the league, people better know what team you play for without hesitation (i.e. kovalchuk, semin, etc...). Adam Burish publicly talking smack about Crosby is like an undrafted player critizing the top pick in the draft the day after it's over. Burish should also try to score more than 10 points in one season before he worries about Crosby.
  13. Jason
    13. Posted by Jason Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:14 pm EDT

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    I don't know who Adam Burish is.
  14. swrbuffalo
    14. Posted by swrbuffalo Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:52 pm EDT

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    Wysh this is journalism at it's finest - "the weak talk a lot" ......... dead on and priceless!
    Crosby should be stripped of his C now before all of his respect is lost. Respect is something that is earned not just given, then slowly taken away. Unfortunately for Sid the Pens got it wrong.
  15. fictional character
    15. Posted by fictional character Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:22 pm EDT

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    why don't you just come out and explicitly ask to be traded to the capitals, ilya.
  16. Pensfan
    16. Posted by Pensfan Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:41 pm EDT

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    Okay, Kovalchuk has every right to jump on the Crosby Bashwagon - he's a great player himself.....But ADAM BURISH!? 13 points in 133 games, saying he "doesn't know who Sidney Crosby is."!? Thatt's hysterical, in the cute kind of way - what a loser!
    I don't care, all of this attention to Crosby makes people forget about who is REALLY the best player on the Pens - if not the league......Evgeni Malkin. He has quietly outscored both Sid and Ovechkin, and he is doing it without every getting involved in any of this media bullcrap, or without showing off, or without yapping his mouth. He's more respectable than Sid and Ovie combined!
  17. swrbuffalo
    17. Posted by swrbuffalo Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:52 pm EDT

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    RobLobster - that is Gold
  18. Jason
    18. Posted by Jason Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:14 pm EDT

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    Seriously though, this whole Crosby bashing thing is getting old. And to those who love doing it, admit it...if Sid were on your team, you would wet yourself with glee.
  19. me me me
    19. Posted by me me me Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:16 pm EDT

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    leave him alone
  20. Anthrax Jones
    20. Posted by Anthrax Jones Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:42 pm EDT

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    So this explains why Ray Shero was trying to persuade Miro Satan to hook himself up to a harness in the Mellon Arena rafters....
  21. swrbuffalo
    21. Posted by swrbuffalo Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:52 pm EDT

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    To all - Blame the NHL and the Penguins for this.......they did it to him(sid).
  22. me me me
    22. Posted by me me me Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:16 pm EDT

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    leave him alone
  23. The Great One
    23. Posted by The Great One Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:19 pm EDT

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    If she's going to have the pigtails, WE NEED MORE RACK.
  24. Jon A
    24. Posted by Jon A Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:11 pm EDT

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    THANK YOU KOVALCHUK!!! I'm glad somebody in the NHL stood up about this. Big Rich, you need to get over your man crush on Crosby. He *is* a whiner. He *is* a crybaby. And he is *not* the best player in the NHL. He's not even in the top 3. Malkin, Ovechkin, Datsyuk, THEN Crosby.

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