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PITTSBURGH -- The notion that the reigning Stanley Cup champions lost their composure in Thursday night's 4-2 Game 4 loss to the Pittsburgh Penguins wasn't debatable, at least among the players. The debate came when trying to assess how rattled the Detroit Red Wings truly were as the Finals were knotted up 2-2.

Like, for example, the gossip in the postgame interviews that the Big Red Wing Machine was bickering on the ice; an assertion denied by both coach Mike Babcock and captain Nicklas Lidstrom(notes).

"I don't think we were sniping at each other," Lidstrom said. "I think we lost a little bit [of composure]. But they gained a lot of momentum by getting that goal."

"That goal" was a reference to Jordan Staal's(notes) pivotal short-handed tally in the second period that turned the game in Pittsburgh's favor -- coach Dan Bylsma said it "changed the complexion of the game" -- and underscored the continuing struggles of the Red Wings' special teams, which failed to tally on the power play and surrendered a power-play goal to Evgeni Malkin(notes) in the first.

Special teams are just one of several headaches for the Wings in their Game 4 defeat. Here are five reasons Detroit players were giving for the Penguins' victory.

1. Sloppiness

The Red Wings were credited with six giveaways and the Penguins had six takeaways, but the numbers don't explain how uncharacteristically sloppy the Wings were in all three zones. The turnovers short-circuited the offense and gave Pittsburgh several great chances.

"Yeah, I guess they did," said winger Mikael Samuelsson(notes). "When you're out there, actually, you don't really see what's going on."

Lidstrom said the sloppy play was a critical factor in the loss.

"We have to cut down on the turnovers," he said. "When we get the puck in deep and we can work the D down low, we're getting some chances. But when we turn the puck over in the neutral zone, they're quick the other way."

2. Fatigue

Penguins defenseman Brooks Orpik(notes) lit a fuse when he claimed that Henrik Zetterberg(notes) looked tired by the end of the game; to which Zetterberg replied that every player is tired by the end of the game.

Babcock was asked about fatigue for his Wings, playing their fourth game in six nights. He said Zetterberg and Johan Franzen(notes) didn't "have as much jump" as they had in other games.

Lidstrom didn't think Zetterberg was wiped out from chasing Sidney Crosby(notes) around for four games. "I talked to him the other day, and he said he felt fine. Lot of minutes, but he still had the legs going last game. He's in great shape," Lidstrom said.

Babcock said that the Penguins' momentum may have made the Wings look more haggard than they were.

"Sometimes we can read too much into the energy level just because when one team gets going, they usually have more energy than the other team. And I thought that's what happened," said Babcock.

3. The special teams mess

Malkin's power-play goal, Staal's shortie and the Wings' inability to put a scare in anyone on the power play (despite seven shots in 6:09 of power play time) combined to produce a Penguins victory in Game 4, according to Zetterberg, who said special teams were the difference.

"We got an opportunity when it was 2-1, and they score and it's a tie game," he said. "Huge momentum swing. And then they score another one right after that."

Lidstrom said it's tough to pinpoint exactly why Detroit can't find its stride on special teams, especially in that chaotic second period. "Tension at the wrong time, stepping up at the wrong time," he said. "We just had some bad timing on some of those goals."

4. No Datsyuk

Pavel Datsyuk(notes), the Hart Trophy finalist who has yet to see action in the Finals, took the warm-up skate but was scratched before Game 4. Babcock said the Wings athletic therapist texted him in the afternoon to say he didn't think Datsyuk would go; and despite strong indications earlier in the day that he'd play, Datsyuk was out again.

Samuelsson said the late scratch didn't affect the team: "We've won without him before. It's not the end of the world."

But clearly, Datsyuk's absence is starting to be apparent in the way the Wings have played on special teams and in their sloppiness with puck possession.

Zetterberg is eager to get Datsyuk back. "It would be a huge boost for us. He's one of the best in the league," he said. "He skated yesterday, he skated a little today. Definitely, he wasn't ready or else he would have played."

Chris Osgood(notes), however, reiterated that even if Datsyuk plays in Game 5 back in Detroit, he's not a cure-all.

"I have no idea if he's coming back or not. You always hear different things ... hopefully he will be. I don't want to speak for Pavel. I can only say I hope he's coming back," he said.

"We don't think that Pav's coming back as a knight in shining armor to save us."

5. Finally, if you haven't noticed, the Penguins are a pretty darn good hockey team.

Osgood made sure, on several occasions, to state the obvious: That the Pittsburgh Penguins didn't fluke their way to a victory, or a rally in this series.

"They've got a good team. So are we. They have guys that make plays. That's what everybody said coming into the series, and that's what you're seeing. They made some plays, we made some plays," said Osgood.

Lidstrom said the mistakes that were made can't be made against a team like the Penguins. "They're so quick from going from defense to offense, and they have the speed and they have the players who can make plays. That's why we have to cut down on some of the mistakes that we made, whether it's pinching at the wrong time or losing the third player high."

For Osgood, the bottom line is that the Red Wings have yet to play to their lofty standards.

"How many odd-manners did we give up?" said Osgood. "We haven't played as good as we can yet in these first four games. I thought last game was our best game, and we lost. We feel as a team that we haven't played our best yet, and it's 2-2. We gotta get some rest and refocus ourselves. We're not going to panic. We know what we have to do."

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  1. Boowers
    1. Posted by Boowers Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:13 am EDT

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    Good time in Pittsburgh, Greg?
  2. bears2go
    2. Posted by bears2go Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:13 am EDT

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    Well played pens...Wings played like crap and the pens capitalized....don't expect it to be that easy on Saturday!!
    GO WINGS!!
  3. Joe T
    3. Posted by Joe T Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:14 am EDT

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    woooooo pens
  4. miah
    4. Posted by miah Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:15 am EDT

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    Wow. I've never even heard of the Wings being "rattled". What planet are we living on?
  5. miah
    5. Posted by miah Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:16 am EDT

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    @ Fetus: perhaps that will quell the "ref" talk. Let's hope and pray.
  6. Boowers
    6. Posted by Boowers Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:21 am EDT

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    @ f.e.
    great synopsis - Abdelkader scratched? He scored the dagger goals in Detroit and they sit him. Bad decision.
    Please don't blast me this time.
  7. fetus enchiladas
    7. Posted by fetus enchiladas Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:22 am EDT

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    miah, are you sleep-blogging? cause you're sure as hell dreaming. ; )
  8. Boowers
    8. Posted by Boowers Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:22 am EDT

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    @miah
    What is the picture next to your posts? That is what I meant.
  9. thenachofan
    9. Posted by thenachofan Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:22 am EDT

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    That's what could be the scariest for both teams' fan bases: the Wings have not played up to their potential in this series. Now the series could last another full week, counting only three games in that span, and it could help Detroit by the way of Datsyuk.
    Pittsburgh played a very good game tonight--though not a perfect one--and won it. It's up to the Red Wings (and JLA's end boards) to rebound.
    Good wrap-up, Greg. Can't wait for Game 5!
  10. jeffrey
    10. Posted by jeffrey Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:24 am EDT

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    Kudos to the Pens,a job well done!WIngs in 6!
  11. fetus enchiladas
    11. Posted by fetus enchiladas Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:24 am EDT

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    Boowers... mental note made. for now. i still can't believe they keep maltby in over abdelkader.. he doesn't have any skills, he's just a mouth with skates.
  12. Chris
    12. Posted by Chris Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:31 am EDT

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    wher are all the wings in 5 bloggers! pens in 6 waaawaaawaaa
  13. CUP#12
    13. Posted by CUP#12 Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:31 am EDT

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    my red wings hat off to shytsburp! they simply outplayed the wings from the 2nd period on. they deserved to win that game. terrible passing by the wings and so many turnovers i lost count. datsy WILL play saturday and the wings WILL take care of business. i guess hossa skates the cup around the igloo on tuesday!!
    @fetus epic but good post. i had to get a beer in the middle of it! i think malts shouldve sat NOT abdelkader myself. hey i didnt punch anything during the 2nd period! i must be evovling! lol
    WTD!!
  14. dibbly
    14. Posted by dibbly Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:31 am EDT

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    aw crap, not the end boards at the JLA again
  15. Ron L. Detroit Sports Nut!
    15. Posted by Ron L. Detroit Sports Nut! Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:35 am EDT

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    What Ref?? Lets blame the Linesman tonight!!! lmao, they did miss the offsides on that first goal from the looks of the replay, but it would hardly have made a difference the way both teams played on the PK and PP tonight.
  16. Allan M
    16. Posted by Allan M Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:36 am EDT

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    No one can argue with this article. Red Wings came out flat from the start and the Pens really elevated their game. It's as simple as that.
  17. secure334
    17. Posted by secure334 Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:37 am EDT

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    thats ok, now we will see what happens in Detroit with Datsyuk back in the line up.
  18. Ron L. Detroit Sports Nut!
    18. Posted by Ron L. Detroit Sports Nut! Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:41 am EDT

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    6 givaways = 6 takaways in most cases doesn't it?
    Or is that a disfunctional stat? FSN puts the between period stats up showing takeaways, and VS put them up with giveaways.
  19. canadianclassic100
    19. Posted by canadianclassic100 Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:45 am EDT

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    Hahaha Pens in 6. Can't stop the monster Malkin good luck trying but the so called fight woke him up don't piss him off just ask maurice and the 'canes. Good Night Wings Dynasty it was fun while it lasted. Pens Dynasty has just begun!!!!h and Datsyuk won't save your team. One shot in the foot and out he goes. Isn't it funny how Pens have more fans outside mellon arena then the wings have inside the JLA.
  20. canadianclassic100
    20. Posted by canadianclassic100 Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:46 am EDT

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    Isn't it funny how Pens have more fans outside mellon arena then the wings have inside the JLA. good comment TU (Thumbs Up)
  21. diehard_wings_fan134096
    21. Posted by diehard_wings_fan134096 Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:53 am EDT

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    REAL 5 biggest headaches for the wings in game 4
    #1. they played like $#!t
    #2. they played like $#!t
    #3. they played like $#!t
    #4. they played like $#!t
    #5. they played like $#!t
  22. NiM3siS
    22. Posted by NiM3siS Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:57 am EDT

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    The tide has turned, the Pens win in 6!
  23. Ron L. Detroit Sports Nut!
    23. Posted by Ron L. Detroit Sports Nut! Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:59 am EDT

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    Game 5 Saturday! Can't wait!
    Go Wings!!!
    BTW, Anyone else noticing something with this series that is totaly off kilter when a Western team is facing an Eastern team??? Both teams are IN THE SAME TIME ZONE!!!!! It around 300 miles from Detroit to Pittsburgh. It's rediculous that the Wings play in the Western conference. I would sacrafice the Chicago rivalry in a heartbeat to be re-aquainted with the Habs, Bruins, Rangers, and escpecially the Maple Leafs rivalries! And the chance to have the Pen's come to town during the regular season more then once every 2 or 3 years of course.
  24. chrisdsawyer
    24. Posted by chrisdsawyer Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:03 am EDT

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    I think it is time for Wings fans to realize that IF datsyuk comes back, he's not going to be 100%. He will play on Saturday, because Babcock is sweating it now. But he won't be good.
  25. miah
    25. Posted by miah Fri Jun 05, 2009 2:03 am EDT

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    @ Boowers: oh, sorry. It's the Pens symbol transposed on the State of Oregon where I live.

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