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J.P. Barry, the agent for Mats Sundin, moves the goalposts one more time: Now it appears Friday is "like a soft deadline" for the free agent to decide on whether or not he's going to bestow his Messianic splendor on the National Hockey League.

Should he decide to play, which team would he sign with? HEY, QUIT BEING SO PUSHY! He's only had close to four months to figure this out ...

Teams like the New York Rangers and the Detroit Red Wings remain on the periphery for Sundin, waiting like the rest of us. GM Cliff Fletcher of the Toronto Maple Leafs said his team "started to operate on the basis that [Sundin] probably won't be back" earlier this month. Please notice he never said the Leafs wouldn't welcome him back.

Then there's the ugly girl at the school dance, the Vancouver Canucks, who continue to have a standing offer of $10 million a season on the table for Sundin that he ignores. It's gotten to the point where the media in Vancouver has been reduced to making marijuana jokes in an effort to recruit him.

And, of course, the captain of the cheerleading squad, the Montreal Canadiens, who offered Sundin a healthy salary and a chance to compete for the Stanley Cup in his twilight.

As if getting his name on the Chalice actually matters to him.

For a lot of fans, questioning Mats Sundin's heart is one of hockey mortal sins. But that's on the ice; off the ice, his behavior this summer has created significant questions about his desire not only to be a primetime player on a championship team but to be a player at all.

Mats has already shown he values comfort over competition by refusing to waive his no-movement clause last trade deadline. He didn't want to leave Toronto, didn't want to go to a new team with new faces and help them compete for the Cup. He didn't have it in him then, and his protracted dance with the Habs -- as legit a championship contender as the Eastern Conference will produce next season -- shows that winning isn't a priority now.

Then there's the question of whether Sundin actually wants to return to the NHL. As Mark Spector of the National Post opines:

You have to want to be an NHL player. It doesn't work if you're playing for the money, or any reason other than the pure hunger to win it all.

Right now, Sundin is like a guy who has paid $29.95 for brunch, but has no room left after a single plate. He sits in Sweden, knowing he is healthy enough to still play, knowing that the Vancouver Canucks two-year, US$20-million offer is something he should snap up, knowing there is a buffet table there for the pillaging.

But there is just one problem. Sundin isn't hungry anymore. Judging by the effect a lack of hunger for the game has had on the games of great players like Niedermayer, Selanne and Forsberg, why would a semi-committed Sundin fare any better?

Here's the difference between those three players and Mats Sundin. Scott Niedermayer and Teemu Selanne signed back with a team they helped lead to the Stanley Cup; not for money, but to do it again.

Peter Forsberg didn't come back to the NHL and sign with Vancouver; he went to Colorado, in the hopes that he and Joe Sakic and Adam Foote and a cast of kids could win the Stanley Cup.

If Sundin decides to return to the NHL ... why? To feed a competitive fire that burns hot enough to prolong his playing career but isn't scorching enough to fuel his desire to win a championship in Montreal?

Will it be for money, like the $20 million he could earn from the Canucks over the next two seasons? Is that enough to bring him out of a comfort zone, even if it keeps him away from the Cup?

Will it be for consolation, opting to continue his legacy in Toronto even if the Leafs are about as close to winning a Stanley Cup as the Raptors are?

Having never been an NHL player, I don't understand how the mind of a veteran star works. Sundin still talks about bringing a championship to Toronto, but he doesn't talk about getting his own name on the Cup. Is that selfless leadership, or did he long ago convince himself that winning it wasn't going to be a part of his NHL legacy?

In other words: Is a ferocious competitor on the ice shying away from the immense pressure of winning a title before times runs out, and the undeniable disappointment that he was unable to bring one home to the fans that adore him?

Only Sundin knows. And we've all become quite acclimated to his leisurely thought process.

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  1. J.P.
    1. Posted by J.P. Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:42 pm EDT

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    Not to take anything away from this post - which I think is spot-on - but I can't wait until I read the last Sundin article of the summer. And by "read" I mean "see his name in the headline and move on to something more interesting."
  2. J.P.
    2. Posted by J.P. Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:42 pm EDT

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    Nevermind. It's late July. There's little more interesting than this going on.
    As you were.
  3. redwings116
    3. Posted by redwings116 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:34 pm EDT

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    Come to Detroit Sundin, then when we win the Cup again you can bring it back to Toronto like you want. That seems to be as close as the Toronto fans are going to come to seeing the Cup. Besides you'll be on a great team with an orginization that not only cares about winning but they care about their players......
    GO WINGS.........REPEAT IN 09....
  4. eyebleaf
    4. Posted by eyebleaf Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:57 pm EDT

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    Excellent post. I don't think it's fair to see he values comfort over competition. He said he never wanted to be a rental player, that's not how he wanted to win the Cup, and I can respect that. He cares for his teammates and wants to be there for the entire grind, not just a pick up three quarters of the way through. I think that's commendable. Leaving would have been taking the easy way out.
    Sure, everyone can question his desire to play now, and rightfully so. It's been a long time since he played his last game, but don't base it on the last four months. Base it over his career. The guy was nothing but a leader for the Toronto Maple Leafs. Never surrounded with prime talent, but ending up the highest scoring Toronto Maple Leaf. Ever. That's something to be proud of.
  5. 5 4 fighting
    5. Posted by 5 4 fighting Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:01 pm EDT

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    I say that Sundin goes to Montreal.Why put yourself through another tough year getting ready to play the sport only to unlace your skates at the end of the year with no chance of going to the show? If you are giving the effort then you may as well reap the reward or its just a waste of time.
  6. gooner
    6. Posted by gooner Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:07 pm EDT

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    1.) To even say Forsberg had/has a "lack of hunger" for the game shows your ignorance of him. The guy is more committed to playing than any player I can think of...he never quits, ever.
    2.) Um, have you seen the Raptors squad this year? They have the best middle court in the league, not to mention guys who are apparently little known (judging by your analogy) like Calderon, Kapono, Bargnani, etc. etc. That team will be dominant as hell this year, be ready to put your foot in your mouth (if you haven't already). Oh, this is coming from a Pistons fan who is already worried about the TO damage.
  7. James Mirtle
    7. Posted by James Mirtle Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:19 pm EDT

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    Hah. Ha.... so you're saying the Raptors are close to a Stanley Cup then?
    Didn't think so.
  8. Wyshynski
    8. Posted by Wyshynski Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:21 pm EDT

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    @ skilledhockey
    1. I didn't say Forsberg lacked hunger. In fact, I said just the opposite: That he wanted to win a Stanley Cup and went to Denver to do so. The columnist I quoted questioned his heart.
    2. Um, it was a joke: The Leafs are as far away from winning the STANLEY CUP as the Raptors. You see, because the other team plays basketball. Hoo-hoo.
    3. Read to achieve.
  9. bdrviper@yahoo.com
    9. Posted by bdrviper@yahoo.com Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:04 pm EDT

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    redwings 116 says it all if you want to win a cup come to detroit the best team in hockey for the last 14 yrs GO WINGS BACK TO BACK STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS 2007-2008 2008-2009
  10. Faux Rumors
    10. Posted by Faux Rumors Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:59 pm EDT

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    1) We were raked over the coals by some when we posted a blog article basicly msking some of the same observations as you did here about Sundin's apparent lack of desire to win a Cup. we feel if he did want to win he would have waved the NTC to goto a contender last spring.
    http://newfaux.blogspot.com/2008/07/matts-playing-cat-and-mouse-with-nhl.html
  11. Patrick
    11. Posted by Patrick Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:14 pm EDT

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    @skilledhockey
    So are you telling us that the Raptors will win the Stanley cup? Are you sure they have someone who can stop Zetterberg?
  12. Jon A
    12. Posted by Jon A Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:11 pm EDT

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    @ skilledhockey- can't believe you didn't get the Raptors joke. @ Wyshynski- loved and agreed with the joke lol
  13. Sean
    13. Posted by Sean Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:28 pm EDT

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    You'll take heat from Leaf fans over this one, but I think you're on the right track.
    Sundin has a reputation for class and leadership, which in Toronto means that he always did his post-game interviews. That's pretty much the only factor that determines a player's rep with the Toronto media. Win or lose, he always delivered his monotone post-game cliches, so that makes him a great guy. (If a guy like Tucker got mad after a loss and stormed off, well, he's a jerk and a cancer.)
    Sundin already showed at the deadline that he doesn't want to win a Cup. Now he seems to be showing that he doesn't want to play at all. This is the guy that a contender like Montreal wants to spend all their cap space on? Really?
  14. Nut
    14. Posted by Nut Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:52 pm EDT

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    Stay away from Detroit, we don't need your drama...we have Kwamee.
  15. Chauchy
    15. Posted by Chauchy Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:15 pm EDT

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    3 days, maybe less, maybe more; just f%$king gouge out our eyes already so we don't have to read any more crap about it
  16. JPP
    16. Posted by JPP Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:31 pm EDT

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    Just give the guy a break. He's getting married this summer and his mind is actually on something other than hockey for the time being. There's more to life than hockey for him, so be it. That won't prevent him from being a great player when the time comes, that is when the season begins. He's proven himself, he doesn't deserve commentators' "deep philosophical and psychological take" on his willingness to play. He played his contract, fulfiiled his obligations, and now he's a free agent and free to enjoy it as much as he wants.
    When the time comes, he'll make his decision, and he's earned our respect whatever that decision happens to be. I'd love to see him in Montreal, but I'll take it as a bonus if that happens.
  17. TP
    17. Posted by TP Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:25 pm EDT

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    Why does Sundin get cut up for having pride and self-respect for refusing to sell out to win a stanley cup. Let's heap some more praise on spineless freeloaders like Bourque. The guy probably wants to be the central piece of a cup-winning team and not just a tag-along. You think somemore people would realize that.
  18. billstrutzel
    18. Posted by billstrutzel Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:08 pm EDT

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    Please, the Wings don't need another dinosaur, we already have Cheli. Whether Sundin plays again or not the league will continue, he's not that big of an impact player. He'd be better off pulling a Stevie and staying with one team his entire career. Play, don't play....whatever.
  19. R F
    19. Posted by R F Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:44 pm EDT

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    Detroit doesn't need another blockbuster acquisition . They usually don't work out. Krupp, Hatcher, Bertuzzi, just to name a few. Detroit is already stacked, don't upset it with a drama queen.
  20. mike b
    20. Posted by mike b Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:11 pm EDT

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    "having never been an nhl player, i don't understand how the mind of a veteran star works..."
    wyshynski, we know you've never played at the pro level, but where is the caveat "i've never claimed to be an intelligent journalist, or even someone with a half-respectable blog..."?
    calling the vancouver canucks the ugly girl at a dance... having a world top 3 goaltender (who will bring canada the gold in 2010) makes you an ugly girl? or does offering a chunk of cap-space money to a solid swede forward make you an ugly girl?
    can we also assume that posing in sunglasses and with a cigar hanging out of your mouth while pretending a super coo 'editor' makes you an ugly girl?
  21. Jon A
    21. Posted by Jon A Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:11 pm EDT

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    As a religious Wings fan, I need to say that Sundin would be over the top for us. Especially since he apparently has shown little/no interest in the Wings himself. We already landed Hossa, which will probably result in us having a 2nd line twice as lethal as most teams' 1st line in the NHL. I've always been a fan of Sundin, but at this point in his career he would take up too much cap space for what he is worth. Had a great career and will be remembered as a great player, but he needs to respectfully hang it up and go out before he has a sadly under-achieving season.
  22. RoShaCla
    22. Posted by RoShaCla Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:45 pm EDT

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    Hey Mike B, maybe it has something to do with them NOT MAKING THE PLAYOFFS LAST YEAR. It also might have something to do with having less offense then the Devils and that seems to actually have gotten even worse over the summer. The Sedin's aren't enough and, even if Sundin joined, Vancouver is not going to win the cup until they overhaul their whole team. If Mats wants the cup, why would he choose Vancouver over Montreal? Answer: there is no reason. He will only go to Vancouver if he wants money more than the cup.
    Sorry dude, the dream was over before it began.
  23. Dewman
    23. Posted by Dewman Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:42 pm EDT

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    Give him a break man, its his life let him do what he wants. The only thing he needs to do is decide what to do BEFORE training camps begin, he doesn't owe anyone anything.
  24. Allan M
    24. Posted by Allan M Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:50 pm EDT

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    let's face it, if sundin really cared about the maple leaf organization and his team mates, he would have waived his no trade clause so that the leafs would've gotten a couple of players and then re-signed with the leafs on july 1st. he would have been coming back to a much stronger team with the new additions and the buyout of dead-weight contracts like tucker and raycroft.
    don't get me wrong, sundin has done more than his fair share for the leafs and the nhl to earn the right not to waive his no trade clause and it's great he exercised that right. but make no mistake, that wasn't about giving back to leaf nation, that was about doing what was best for mat sundin.
  25. Michael
    25. Posted by Michael Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:18 pm EDT

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    "You have to want to be an NHL player. It doesn't work if you're playing for the money, or any reason other than the pure hunger to win it all."
    Well that's spot on...I'm sure it's all that pure hunger that drove Ron Hainsey to sign in atlanta....it had nothing to do with the 4.5 million a year he's getting
    Everyone knows Atlanta = Stanley Cup
    Talk about hunger!

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