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The end of October gives us a decent enough sample to at least catch a whiff of the coaches that could be in danger. No one has been given the Bob Hartley or Barry Melrose swift kick to the curb just yet, but there are certainly a few names on the watch list for a pink slip.

Over on FanHouse, Schultz has a list of five coaches he feels are in the guillotine: Peter DeBoer, Florida Panthers; John Stevens, Philadelphia Flyers; Randy Carlyle, Anaheim Ducks; Ron Wilson, Toronto Maple Leafs; and Rick Tocchet, Tampa Bay Lightning, whom Schultz believes will be the first coach axed.

This preliminary list has some merit, although Schultz doesn't even sound convinced the majority of them are under fire. ("Half the reason Carlyle is on this list is because there really aren't a lot of other people to put here.") The Panthers and Ducks are off to rather putrid starts, but DeBoer and Carlyle may have built up enough good will from last season's exploits to ride it out.

Ron Wilson ... well, Brian Burke already promised "numerous, multiple player changes before the coaching staff would even be looked at, let alone considered." It all depends on what the Leafs look like after the process plays out and, presumably, if their struggles continue when Phil Kessel(notes) finally suits up.

That leaves two coaches listed in "The Pink Slip Index": One we completely agree with, and one with whom we really, really don't.

Whenever the coaching hot seat is mentioned in casual conversations with NHL insiders, Stevens's name comes up. The Flyers have had a middling start (11 points in 10 games), and having seen them a few times there's something a little off about them, especially up front.

But the reason Stevens is always mentioned, we think, is because the 2009-10 Philadelphia Flyers could easily become the 2008-09 Pittsburgh Penguins: Chug along as an average, underwhelming team until the coach is replaced by one with a completely different personality and approach; and then kick a very talented roster into high gear for the postseason.

Michel Therrien and Dan Bylsma were divergent personalities. If Stevens were to be replaced, it would actually mirror the Penguins' move, with a yielding players' coach getting flipped for (one assumes) some sort of Mike Keenan type to whip these guys into shape.

So until the Flyers turn it around, Stevens is a legit name on this list. Tocchet's might be too, but not at No. 1. No way, no how. To paraphrase Natalie Portman on "Top Chef" this week: Who is Schultz's dealer and is he looking to take on any new business?

From FanHouse, the justification of Rick "Second in the Southeast" Tocchet being in the most danger for dismissal:

No. 1: Rick Tocchet, Tampa Bay Lightning. The lame thing about NHL coaches this season is that there's no one you can point at and yell 'DEAD MAN WALKING!' A lot of thought-to-be-crappy teams are good. A lot of good teams are mediocre. A very small handful of teams are very bad. The Lightning are not very bad. But the Lightning are off to a bad start (3-3-3) and are led by a coach who was interim for most of last season and was hired by the previous coach. That latter is the coaching kiss of death, which is why I believe Tocchet will be the first to go this year. And also because anything goes at Cirque du SoLightning.

While his last point is taken, it wasn't Barry Melrose that gave Rick Tocchet a two-year extension after the interim tag was lifted -- it was the current management. Their 3-3-3 start isn't bad at all; the Panthers and Thrashers wish they were that "bad."

(Ed. Note: Ben Wright from the Thrashers checked in on Twitter: "ATL is 4-4-1. Same point total after 9 games and with a better win total.")

Plus, this is simply a better roster than last season's disjointed mess: Better goaltending, better blue line, deeper scoring and Steven Stamkos's(notes) NHL testicles have finally descended. Good times.

If nothing else, Tocchet's already removed himself from the hot seat, at least in the eyes of local media in Tampa. From Lightning Strikes on Oct. 23:

Let's give credit where it is deserved. in his first mini-crisis of the season, coach Rick Tocchet handled it just right, and he got results.

I'll admit I write this in part in response to e-mails I have received and some questions on this week's chat that wondered if it was time to fire Tocchet. It is the worst kind of knee-jerk reaction to a couple of bad games (geez, at least Barry Melrose got 16 games). That said, a lot would be deduced by the way the players responded to whatever the coach came up with to break a terrible two-game stretch in which the team lost twice and was outscored 11-2.

For Tocchet and his coaching staff, it was all business. The four days of "extended training camp" leading up to Thursday's 5-2 victory over the Sharks were full of intense skating drills and drills targeted to what was not going well, specifically defensive zone coverages, breakouts and winning battles for the puck.

Again, this isn't to say Tocchet isn't a name to watch as far as coaches' fate. It's Tampa Bay: anything goes. Oren Koules might fire him in a fit of rage because "Paranormal Activity" killed the "Saw" franchise; who knows?

But odds are that Tocchet stays. If we, you know, had to wager.

But he shouldn't be No. 1 on the list by any current measure. In fact, Schultz is right: Outside of Ron Wilson and potentially Stevens, it's difficult to see another coach that could be canned in the coming months. Alain Vigneault of the Vancouver Canucks? Not with those injuries. Barry Trotz of the Nashville Predators? The time could be nearing, but they're a pesky team. Scott Gordon of the New York Islanders? What, and hurt the team's lottery chances?

The Carolina Hurricanes are a complete mess, but Paul Maurice in the first year of a three-year deal. The only scenario that could play out? Maurice moves upstairs and Ron Francis takes the bench to shake things up.

What do you think? Any coaches in serious trouble this season?

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  1. LiquorPugs
    1. Posted by LiquorPugs Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:45 am EDT

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    Todd Richards?
  2. discoelephant64
    2. Posted by discoelephant64 Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:59 am EDT

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    I'm glad you didn't jump on the bandwagon claiming Mike Babcock was getting fired in Wings country. But I agree with the Philadelphia call. He can't get these guys going, and really hasn't been able to the whole time he's been there (I mean in the playoffs)
  3. Derek Sutton
    3. Posted by Derek Sutton Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:59 am EDT

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    Yeah, Todd Richards. How is he not even mentioned in this post? Minnesota is off to a miserable start, and the new "philosophy" is not sticking to a team that was bogged down by Lemaire hockey since inception. Does he get a free pass since the team is expected to encounter growing pains?
  4. KingHill
    4. Posted by KingHill Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:01 pm EDT

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    The problem for these players is the very long season with high number of games played in a brutal sport. Who wants to kill themselves during the regular "exhibition" season when fifth or sixth seeded teams can try to stay healthy and the turn it on in the playoffs? The Islanders were very good at this back in the days of Al Arbour. The regular hockey season is frankly a joke.
  5. William
    5. Posted by William Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:01 pm EDT

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    Avery thinks Bruce should be canned because he's a fatty.
  6. Starstx
    6. Posted by Starstx Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:07 pm EDT

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    Not yet but soon ... Andy Murray will be added to the list. Not winning at home, inconsistent, 5th best to 5th worst PP so far. Something not right here.
  7. guitarplayer68
    7. Posted by guitarplayer68 Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:09 pm EDT

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    I agree with nos 1 and 3. No way Richards isn't on this list. It's less than a month into the season and he's already lost the locker room and is making questionable personnel moves (benching Petr Sykora in favor of Derek Boogaard on a team that desperately needs finishing ability.) I don't think he'll be canned anytime soon, since he was Fletcher's golden boy...But I don't know how much longer a blind eye can be turned.
  8. sxus_tiorted
    8. Posted by sxus_tiorted Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:13 pm EDT

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    There are probably about 20 teams waiting for Babcock to be fired (yeah right). That guy is a class act and a great coach. I still hate the Wings but I do respect them!
  9. Josh Smith
    9. Posted by Josh Smith Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:21 pm EDT

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    Scott Gordon is actually widely considered an excellent coach who gets the best out of the crappy teams he has been given. He would have to lose 10 in a row to even be put on the hot seat.
  10. Brad
    10. Posted by Brad Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:27 pm EDT

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    How is it that John Anderson in Atlanta not on that list????
  11. Tacks
    11. Posted by Tacks Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:28 pm EDT

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    1. John Stevens - too much talent on this team to not produce a stellar record, esp since he's been around for a while
    2. Lindy Ruff - one that I would have picked on the seat in pre-season but the first 10 games just gave him a clean slate until mid-season
    3. Rick Tocchet - should probaby go simultaneously with the next management change but he'll probably get some grace period
    4. Ron Wilson - Burke won't be proactive on this one, but he'll be out once fan loathing of the team and player loathing of the coach intersect at the peak. Burke's not taking a bullet for Wilson, who will be this year's Renney.
    5. Cory Clouston - the Heatley trade finally showed that Melnick is taking an interest in cleaning up his franchise. Next step in that is getting an NHL caliber coach.
    6. Marc Crawford - I just don't see this guy changing the fate of any teams he coaches for the better. Colorado won the cup based on talent not coaching, and Canada didn't even show up in Nagano. The Stars end up moving in another direction, and Crawford continues his counterclockwise journey to Florida?
    7. Jacques Martin - safe for his rookie grace year period, safe for his sophomore period because his name is not Jack Martin.
    8. Randy Carlyle - time to debate whether the franchise needs a new system going forward, as the ducks total points has declined steadily over the past couple years since the cup.
    9. Barry Trotz - 10 years behind the wheel and no real change in performance. Time for a change.
    10. Dave Tippett - doing a great job so far but doesn't speak French and isn't a fan of poutine.
  12. Slayer
    12. Posted by Slayer Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:30 pm EDT

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    How much slack will Minnesota give their coach, given their hieghtened expectations of "more offense" and few results thusfar? What about Trotz in Nashville? Will he finally wear out his welcome? I'd have to thing if Anaheim continues to strugglt Carlyle. These guys will last well into the season if anything were to happen to them. They certainly won't be first. I say Stevens in Philly, if only because of the Pittsburgh scenario.
  13. The Big "V"...Rusty Shackleford
    13. Posted by The Big "V"...Rusty Shackleford Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:31 pm EDT

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    Did Kevin Schultz write that claptrap just to fill a quota? The Lightning are tied in points with the Red Wings and have a game in hand. They're ninth in the Conference and in second place in the division. It seems that with a lot of blog posts, the author starts out with a reasonably interesting idea, realizes he can't flesh it out as much as he hoped and figures, "Well, I can always dump on the Lightning to wrap this piece of garbage up!" What a joke this nerdburglar is!
  14. Hans Gruber
    14. Posted by Hans Gruber Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:42 pm EDT

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    Fire Maurice and bring Laviolette back!
  15. rkzorro
    15. Posted by rkzorro Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:43 pm EDT

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    the leafs are a joke if the fans would quite going they might get someone that can play hockey whits is useless black has to go ponikarovsky should be sent to the pe we team were and hell is karda the rokkie let him play omg its not the coaches fault its the players
  16. rkzorro
    16. Posted by rkzorro Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:47 pm EDT

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    the leafs have had the swine flu sence 1967 there worst now
  17. Jon Jordan
    17. Posted by Jon Jordan Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:48 pm EDT

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    Schultz did a crap job here. The Tocchet blurb cements as much.
    Tocch is in NO danger down here whatsoever.
    Poor work.
    JJ
  18. Das Schutzenfest
    18. Posted by Das Schutzenfest Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:02 pm EDT

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    I like the idea of replacing Paul Maurice with Ron Francis. Under that circumstance, at least there would be some emotion involved when the Pens annihilate the Canes in the playoffs--if they get that far.
  19. TMC
    19. Posted by TMC Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:02 pm EDT

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    " Scott Gordon of the New York Islanders? What, and hurt the team's lottery chances?"
    Have you frickin WATCHED any Islanders games this season? Come on, Greg.
    Scott Gordon is doing fine and he isnt going anywhere. Please.
  20. Colin A
    20. Posted by Colin A Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:12 pm EDT

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    Bruce Boudreau anyone?? The Caps lack luster performance late in games this season is troubling. If it continues well into the season how in the world are they going to claim that they are playoff ready? This might be one of those teams that needs a kick in the rear type coach to get some of these guys going.
  21. C Fox84
    21. Posted by C Fox84 Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:47 pm EDT

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    MO must GO
  22. NostraChronus
    22. Posted by NostraChronus Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:47 pm EDT

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    Stevens should have been fired two seasons ago; Keenan should take over.
  23. Twitch Joyner RT (R)
    23. Posted by Twitch Joyner RT (R) Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:53 pm EDT

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    The 'canes are in serious trouble. Way too much talent to be doing what they are. Paul Maurice's slow system is slowing them down way to much. We need a coach that will let the ponies run wild.
  24. John G
    24. Posted by John G Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:06 pm EDT

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    PHILLY, PLEASE LISTEN TO ME... DO NOT FIRE Stevens!!! He sucks and can't beat the Pens to save his job... keep that bum coaching so the Pens only need to worry about the Caps during the playoff run this year.
  25. fender b
    25. Posted by fender b Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:08 pm EDT

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    Why are you comparing Therrien to Stevens, Wysh? Apples and oranges..........

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