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The debate over whether or not to change the current playoff overtime format has been the topic du jour since Todd Marchant's winner went by Detroit Red Wings goalie Chris Osgood to give the Anaheim Ducks a dramatic 3-2 win in Game 2 of their series.

Stu Hackel of the New York Times caught a discussion on Montreal radio Team 990 in which TSN's Bob McKenzie nonchalantly brought up that in the past year, the National Hockey League's Competition Committee was within one vote of eliminating a skater from each team after one overtime session. Mike Brophy agreed with the idea in his column on Sportsnet.ca yesterday:

Play one period of 5-on-5 overtime and if the score is still tied, play 4-on-4 until a winner is declared. It really isn't a radical idea. I understand this would be a huge break from tradition, but that doesn't mean it is wrong. The NHL went to 4-on-4 in overtime in 1999-2000 and we survived, right?

For heaven's sake, it's just a freaking hockey game! The fate of the world is not depending on the outcome.

So, why are you in such a tiff, Mike? Is the fate of the world depending on the length of the game as well?

A hockey game that ventures into multiple-overtimes is one of the selling points of playoff hockey. It's what lures in the casual fan. It's something that can turn a series on edge; both on the ice and in the minds of fans.

Which is why you don't mess with playoff overtime.

If you feel differently, let us know in today's poll: What overtime format would you like to see in the Stanley Cup playoffs?


What's the best overtime format for the Stanley Cup playoffs?

More about the OT debate coming up ...

Last year's Stanley Cup final was about to become a snoozer until Max Talbot's last-second goal kept the Pittsburgh Penguins alive. The interest in the series exploded once Petr Sykora's wrist shot in the third overtime flew over Chris Osgood's glove to extend things to a Game 6. The next morning -- or should I say a few hours later -- the Stanley Cup finals were being discussed at length everywhere.

Multi-overtime games aren't always legendary, as Brophy points out about the Red Wings-Ducks game on Sunday; this is true, but they're also where history is often made and moments occur that resonate within a fan base.

Who will ever forget Petr Nedved's goal in the fifth overtime against the Washington Capitals in 1996?

What about the 'Easter Epic', when Pat LaFontaine's goal in the fourth overtime eliminated the Capitals in Game 7?

Or the infamous "skate in the crease" goal by Brett Hull that gave the Dallas Stars the 1999 Stanley Cup in the third overtime of Game Six and made the entire city of Buffalo very bitter.

The overtime game that lasts for hours is a badge of honor for fans as well. Who will forget Keith Primeau's in the fifth overtime of the 2000 Eastern Conference Semifinals? As a Penguin fan, I wish I could. It almost caused me to be late to my first day at a summer job, but like many Philadelphia Flyers and Penguins fans, I can tell the story that I stayed up until the wee hours of the morning hanging on edge during the sudden death periods; and then, like many Penguins fans, cursing Darius Kasparaitis' name as I went to bed.

One concern Brophy brings up is the issue of television and how a game that goes past a couple of hours is a serious hindrance to the League's TV partners, using the example of NBC's decision to move Game One of the Capitals-Penguins to Versus if it would have went past one overtime this past Saturday.

Well, of course NBC would do that for ratings purposes, but how is that an indictment of overtime hockey as a whole? If it were Brophy's NHL, hockey would be on and off your television set as soon as possible:

The NHL is still searching for ways to sell the game in the United States and no matter what Canadian fans may think about that, it has to be a priority for the game to prosper. So when a major network opens a three-hour window for an NHL game to be played in prime time, then that game had better end in three hours. Or, at worst, everything should be done to make sure the game doesn't drag on and on.

Yeah, instead of having your product able to be viewed on television longer, or have the ability to lure in the casual fan who flips on and see an overtime game, let's make it disappear as soon as heavenly possible. Sounds like back in the ESPN days when games would end and three seconds later they'd be cutting to SportsCenter.

When it comes to playoff overtime, it's such a sacred topic among hockey fans and to mess with it would be wrong. The shootout isn't a way to settle a regular-season game and turning playoff overtime into shinny isn't what the NHL playoffs are about.

Hackel puts it best and ends any argument those in favor of four-on-four overtime hockey bring:

The character of games like that, the heightening thrills and the battle of endurance, would be greatly diminished by going from five-on-five to four-on-four play after the first OT. We're not against change when it's for the better, but to alter the character of the game's highest level of competition in all cases because of the potential loss of an audience in some cases due to the accident of geography seems wrongheaded.

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  1. boomer3eb
    1. Posted by boomer3eb Tue May 05, 2009 10:50 am EDT

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    Absolutely not. As was stated, the marathons are what make some of the most memorable games. I was at that Nedved game in 1996, and I still refer back to that game as one of the greatest sporting events I've ever witnessed personally. I started in the upper deck, Row Y of the Cap Centre. When Nedved won it, I was on the glass. Sudden death should remain sudden death.
  2. Lexus P
    2. Posted by Lexus P Tue May 05, 2009 10:52 am EDT

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    Keep it as it is, 5 on 5 to a goal is scored that is, and a BIG FAT NO to shootout's in the postseason.
    Long OT's is one of the biggest reasons I love watching the playoffs.
  3. M
    3. Posted by M Tue May 05, 2009 10:58 am EDT

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    Simple answer NO! Do they go to a home run derby after 2 extra innings in baseball? This is ridiculous to even be vomited from anyones lips.
  4. Matthew
    4. Posted by Matthew Tue May 05, 2009 10:59 am EDT

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    i was at that nedved game in 1996 as well. i also remember that it was the 4th ot, not the 5th.
  5. J-D
    5. Posted by J-D Tue May 05, 2009 11:04 am EDT

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    You guys need an editor. Nedved's goal was in the fourth OT against Washington. And that "too many men on the ice" game only had nine minutes of OT, not four periods.
    Oh, and it would be absolute garbage playing 4-on-4 overtime playoff hockey.
  6. Jerk Store
    6. Posted by Jerk Store Tue May 05, 2009 11:04 am EDT

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    looks like people who were complaining about having two different sets of rules for the regular season and the post season can finally stop their complaining. of course its not exactly what you wanted.
    be careful what you wish for.
    i know bettman! maybe we should have 4 qtrs instead of 3 periods! that will make it more accessible to casual fans!
    / and a glowing puck
  7. ryptide
    7. Posted by ryptide Tue May 05, 2009 11:07 am EDT

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    It ain't broke. No need to fix it.
  8. Magnum
    8. Posted by Magnum Tue May 05, 2009 11:07 am EDT

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    There are so many arguments for keeping things as they are, but comparisons to other sports are sometimes the most persuasive. So the next time someone suggests going to a shootout or switching to 4-on-4 in OT, just ask them (as others on this site have aptly done) if they would feel the same way about going to a home run contest or switching to 8-on-8 when playoff baseball games go past 9 innings.
  9. Scott
    9. Posted by Scott Tue May 05, 2009 11:09 am EDT

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    The NHL should not change its format. It's fine the way it is. Please do not make it like soccer!
    http://www.theklowntimes.net
  10. Ch M
    10. Posted by Ch M Tue May 05, 2009 11:14 am EDT

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    Without extra OT games we never would have had the infamous Hull goal on Hasek (-1 to Wysh for not including that one). The extra OT games are part of the major drama of the playoffs, who hasn't cringed on every shot taken against their team in the OT periods? This is a "no touch" area for hockey.
  11. 24slashing
    11. Posted by 24slashing Tue May 05, 2009 11:15 am EDT

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    Not that it made it any less devastating to Bruin fans, but Yvon Lambert won that boston-montreal game in the first overtime, not the fourth
  12. Jon A
    12. Posted by Jon A Tue May 05, 2009 11:15 am EDT

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    5 on 5 for 30 seconds of OT. Then 3 on 3 without goalies. We need as much scoring as possible to attract fans.
    Signed, Gary Bettman.
  13. Panda God
    13. Posted by Panda God Tue May 05, 2009 11:16 am EDT

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    No change. The TV stations are just whining about lost commercial revenue, since there are no breaks within the period besides intermission. Also, for the record, it was a 4-3 win Sean.
  14. epeebill@...
    14. Posted by epeebill@... Tue May 05, 2009 11:16 am EDT

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    Ok, I'm not really sure any change would make sense, but let's at least consider some of the consequences of the multiple OT game. As the teams go into third, fourth and later over times, we're not seeing the best hockey, because the players are tired. The quality of play suffers and the chances for an injury to an important player goes up. Then both teams are going into the next game exhausted.
    In the playoffs, there's a game every other day. As a fan, I've felt trashed the morning after a 3OT game played on the West Coast, how must the players feel? Did that exciting moment after 6 periods of hockey drain the energy of the next game, with only a day's rest in between? (And that day of rest included a 6 hour flight to the other arena) It's possible....
    That said, I admit that overtime has unmatched drama. Overtime in hockey is better than any extra innings in baseball. I'm not sure I like the idea of changing it, but let's not just make a knee-jerk reaction to changes without at least thinking about what the pros and the cons are.
  15. Jeffrey
    15. Posted by Jeffrey Tue May 05, 2009 11:17 am EDT

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    @M-
    You've got it right. Other sports don't change their game to get off of TV. Extra innings baseball during the playoffs on FOX has people huddled around their sets just as much as OT in football or basketball. The greatness of the game shouldn't be changed to appease a few that haven't watched the game before or someone in a rush to watch nightly news or some crap on reruns.
  16. Gr8 8
    16. Posted by Gr8 8 Tue May 05, 2009 11:17 am EDT

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    The 5 on 5 marathon playoff games are the stuff memories are made of -
    Would Baseball start pulling position players off the field after the 10th inning? I don't think so.
    Would Basketball dissolve into a 3 on 3 dunk fest after 2 OTs? Thats a certainly not.
    Would Football start removing lineman... on second thought , Football OT is messed up, but thats another blog...
    Bottom line, it ain't broke - leave playoff OT alone
  17. Ch M
    17. Posted by Ch M Tue May 05, 2009 11:18 am EDT

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    My bad Wysh, just noticed that Leahy wrote this article, makes sense that he overlooked the most controversial goal in the NHL now.
  18. mc keeper
    18. Posted by mc keeper Tue May 05, 2009 11:20 am EDT

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    Pretty sure the 1979 Bruins/Habs game wasn't four OT, but the 1st OT
  19. C
    19. Posted by C Tue May 05, 2009 11:21 am EDT

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    The people who run the NHL, and much of the media that covers the sport, see themselves and their sport as losers who have to somehow convince the cool kids (apparently Americans who don't like hockey already) that they're cool enough to be paid attention to.
  20. Fin-atic
    20. Posted by Fin-atic Tue May 05, 2009 11:23 am EDT

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    Yeah, and then after the 2nd OT we take off another skater and so on until the 6th OT where the goalies take shots on each other until there's a winner. Idiots! Leave it the way it is! That's what makes the game as good as it is.
  21. goaliechic42
    21. Posted by goaliechic42 Tue May 05, 2009 11:25 am EDT

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    As far as I know, beer is no longer sold after the second intermission. Has anyone considered that? That sucks. I was also at that Caps game. I prefer to call it "the Juneau misses a penalty shot in o.t." game, not "the Nedved" game. I was well lit by the second and having a good time. By the end of the game, I was hungover. I felt really ripped of by the loss having paid $225 for the ticket (a weeks wages at the time). Looking back, it is one of my favorite, although sad, hockey memories. I am for maintaning the format.
  22. J.S.
    22. Posted by J.S. Tue May 05, 2009 11:25 am EDT

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    the OT marathons are what draws the casual fan to the NHL.
    I am by no means an NBA fan, but if I see an double OT game between the Wizards and the Clippers (I'm just picking two teams that aren't marquee teams a la Celtics, Lakers, etc.) I'm watching. Not a big fan of baseball either, but if I see the Astros and Pirates are tied in the 15th (which usually happens at least once a year for some odd reason), I'm watching. Same reason - or theory - applies here.
  23. jared s
    23. Posted by jared s Tue May 05, 2009 11:26 am EDT

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    They can't change this. This is tradition and why people are so interested in the playoffs. The poll numbers show what the true fans think. This is a bad idea and shouldn't be implemented.
  24. alabamacrimsontide1992
    24. Posted by alabamacrimsontide1992 Tue May 05, 2009 11:27 am EDT

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    NO NO NO NO NO NO. That is all.
  25. Vince B
    25. Posted by Vince B Tue May 05, 2009 11:27 am EDT

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    NO!!!!!! Don't change the playoff format at all, it's what the fans love. Those extra periods of hockey have people on the edge of their seat for every single shot that is taken during them. Plus it helps the players earn their money a little more, make 'em work a little more for their millions you know? It only takes one shot to end the game and that my friends is exciting hockey. Lets go Red Wings.

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