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The NHL's retail relationship with female hockey fans hasn't exactly been storybook over the last few years.

There was the flap over the League's $325 bedazzled purse. There was outcry over the Alyssa Milano-designed hockey fashions that led one blogger to opine that the "R&D for this line [was done] in a brothel." Mention a pink jersey to a lady puckhead, and you're going to get a strong reaction either positively or (mostly) negatively.

But in all of those cases, the NHL was making an effort to reach out to an increasingly large portion of its consumer fan base; which makes the utter neglect of that fan base in one of the League's most profit-driven initiatives so baffling.

"I realize that the NHL is an ol' boys club, but this blatant sexist marketing is utterly outrageous to me," wrote "walkinvisible" [name withheld upon request], a female hockey fan who blogs at www.hitthepost.ca.

Her outrage? It's over the fact that many teams in the NHL's third jersey program completely ignore female fans; and she's fighting the system over it.

There are roughly 23 teams in the NHL today that have some form of alternate sweater, whether it's a traditional "third jersey" worn on specific nights during the season or part of a "retro jersey" program, like the Calgary Flames' 30th anniversary frocks.

The fight for "walkinvisible" has been in Calgary, where she's raised hell over a lack of female-cut jerseys before, with startling success. It's something she mentioned in a letter to team president Ken King over the third-jersey flap, reprinted below:

"In the post-lockout era, the NHL and Reebok discontinued the CCM ladies-cut jersey and produced, instead, a PINK women's jersey for all thirty NHL clubs, much to my displeasure (as seen below in my letter to the editor, printed in the hockey news on October 16, 2006):

"This issue was resolved not long after the printing of that edition, when the NHL and Reebok started producing home jerseys in ladies' sizes league-wide, though I've recently discovered a new grievance.

"As I mention in The Hockey News letter above, I am a female hockey fan; I come from a long-time season ticket holding family, I like talking stats with my pals, I'm currently involved in four hockey pools, and I'm hugely interested in the history of the game, scouting, strategies and player pros and cons.  To be offered an "ICE FLIRT" and "BE LUV'D" fashion jersey (what I refer to as "the puck bunny fashion line") is beyond insulting.

"My questions to you are regarding this year's retro-throwback ("vintage") Flames' third jersey:

"Why would a team go through all of the pomp and circumstance to design, hold secret, announce and release a jersey of any sort if they're subsequently only going to offer it to HALF of their fanbase?

"I find it hard to believe that it wouldn't be cost-effective (if not PROFITABLE) for the NHL/RBK to manufacture teams' alternate jerseys in a ladies' cut, especially for large-market teams like the Flames?

"Will these EVER be available for purchase?

"I thank you kindly in advance for your time,

"Sincerely,

"[walkinvisible]"

As of Wednesday, she hadn't heard from the NHL or the Flames about the complaint. She also did a bit of investigation on her own, via Hit The Post:

I thought I'd phone over to the Flames' Fan Attic at Northhill Mall and had a REALLY nice chat with Blaine -- MASSIVE shoutout to that guy -- who says that they don't really sell a lot of the pink jerseys for women, and most ladies that come in to buy a pink one will actually end up leaving with a red one. He also inquired up the proverbial food chain if the retro-throwback would ever be available in women sizes, and the answer was, quite simply: not likely... apparently the powers-that-be are "in talks" to "possibly" bring it in, based on the number of requests, but it definitely wouldn't be until after x-mas.... tsk tsk tsk... what a waste of prime moneymaking weeks... for SHAME.

The good news: Some teams get it. The Pittsburgh Penguins have a women's cut of their third jersey, as do the Philadelphia Flyers, the Buffalo Sabres, the San Jose Sharks and others.

But then there are the Tampa Bay Lightning, the Dallas Stars and many other teams that don't offer them on the Shop NHL Web site. It's baffling that a female Minnesota Wild fan can get this on the team's Shop NHL site but not this in a women's cut.

This might all seem like quite a mountainous molehill, but it speaks directly to the problems many female fans have had with the League's marketing approach. Creating a female-cut version of a third jersey seems like such a fundamentally sound decision -- the jerseys are usually more visually striking, in a fashion sense, than the usual gear -- that it was rather stunning to discover that they aren't available.

Is it possible that women's cut jerseys are available off the Web, or that they're on the way? Sure. But for now, it's either a pitiful oversight or, worse, an intentional decision not to tailor these jerseys for female fans in the same way that traditional home jerseys are; either way, it needs to be rectified by the teams that aren't currently offering them.

UPDATE: Ryan Stanzel, media relations for the Wild, checks in over email --

Just wanted to let you know the Wild has women's cut Wild 3rd green jerseys available (in addition to red, and pink) at all our local Hockey Lodge locations in the Twin Cities, or by phone at 651-726-8250 or email at hockeylodge@wild.com

Like we said: It's possible these jerseys are being made and are available locally (Flames excluded). So what's the excuse for the NHL not having them available on its online shop?

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  1. dylan
    1. Posted by dylan Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:28 am EDT

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    I happen to like the way my wife looks in a normal jersey, why go women's cut? Jerseys aren't meant to be form flattering they are meant to convey basic information and cover big honking pads. I wear my jersey like a tent, just like a real jersey fits without pads. If you want form fitting or flattering wear a T-Shirt. There is a reason the real jerseys aren't spandex.
  2. yareekaim
    2. Posted by yareekaim Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:33 am EDT

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    If there's one thing women are good at, it's complaining. First ice girls, now this.
    First, she's whining about pink jerseys because they aren't the team's real jerseys, then she's whining about the real jerseys because they aren't cut for women?
    News flash: if you want a real NHL jersey, you're going to get something that's cut to fit male hockey players wearing gear. The new jerseys fit women much better than before.
  3. habs1rule
    3. Posted by habs1rule Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:36 am EDT

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    Go back in the kitchen where you belong, you moron. The ladies jersey should come with a Muzzle too!! Now go moon someone in Idaho, preferrably in front of a mean cop!!
  4. The Bog
    4. Posted by The Bog Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:38 am EDT

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    The one problem I have with her comments is that HALF of the NHL's fans are women. I don't really believe this is the case and I'm 100% sure the NHL doesn't believe that's the case either.
    BTW isn't a women's cut jersey a jersey foul anyway since its by default not authentic?
  5. Koz
    5. Posted by Koz Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:39 am EDT

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    I see a lot of ladies just wear smaller sizes of the regular cut jerseys. The new RBK system is a sleeker fit anyway. But I'd love to see more variety available because, IMO, hockey seems to have a huge female following -- especially one rabid enough that they'd wear a jersey.
  6. discoelephant64
    6. Posted by discoelephant64 Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:42 am EDT

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    When I asked my girlfriend if she wanted a pink jersey she said, "No F*#@ing way". She doesn't really care about the sizing issue, she just thinks the pink jersey is a stupid idea. I agree.
  7. goon with the wind
    7. Posted by goon with the wind Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:42 am EDT

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    Women should have jerseys, but to think they are 1/2 of the fanbase, may be pushing it a wee bit. Pink jerseys are just lame tho. "Girl cut" versions are way better, but most women just wear the same as the guys no?
  8. RyanB
    8. Posted by RyanB Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:47 am EDT

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    My wife owns five jerseys all the traditional cut. I'm sure if there was a ladies style available though she'd rather have one of those.
  9. Hans Gruber
    9. Posted by Hans Gruber Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:49 am EDT

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    If you are over 12, unless you are playing, you should really question even wearing a jersey.
  10. R C
    10. Posted by R C Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:49 am EDT

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    Uh, they make jerseys in smaller sizes, buy one of those you idiot.
    Oh, I forgot. You want an authentic jersey that is tailored nice and tight so you can still look like a puck bunny but pretend that you're not because the jersey isn't pink.
    Idiocy like this makes feminism look ridiculous.
  11. RyanB
    11. Posted by RyanB Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:49 am EDT

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    @dylan
    Jerseys meant to convey basic information and cover big honking pads on players. Wouldn't you rather see a girl in a nice tight jersey than a tent?
  12. Metroscap
    12. Posted by Metroscap Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:50 am EDT

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    I don't understand what the big fuss is. Just go find a Penguins 87 home, away or alternate. It's pretty much already a women's cut.
  13. Jacque
    13. Posted by Jacque Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:52 am EDT

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    I am a female hockey fan and yes I agree that the pink jerseys need to go but complaining about not having a women's cut jersey is just stupid. I don't like women's cut jerseys because they don't look like a traditional hockey sweater. If I am going to pay good money for a sweater then it had better look like what my team is wearing on the ice.
  14. utahutes86
    14. Posted by utahutes86 Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:54 am EDT

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    I see how it's kind of an issue, but like others have stated, women look just fine in smaller sizes of the regular cut. I don't think it's a huge issue. Also, I'd guess the female fanship is closer to 30-35% of the NHL's base than 50%.
  15. anna
    15. Posted by anna Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:55 am EDT

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    Reebok makes a nice "ladies" cut for Capitals jerseys...it's not sexy or meant to be. Authentic jerseys are made to actually be authentic--meaning, worn over shoulder/chest pads and thus are cut pretty large. Maybe some women wear the pink jerseys because they assume that's their only option, if the men's jerseys are enormous. I have a ladies cut jersey and I love it. I think it's great the RBK offers them.
    If women have an issue, we should protest with our wallets and just not buy pink jerseys or other girl-ed up products. I assume they remain as products is because they sell enough to make it cost-effective.
  16. jenny_in_big_d
    16. Posted by jenny_in_big_d Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:58 am EDT

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    Why the hell do you need a women's cut? I wear a normal jersey, and it fits just fine. What a silly thing to be upset over.
    (The pinks, on the other hand, make me want to shoot people.)
  17. Russian_blue_girl
    17. Posted by Russian_blue_girl Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:58 am EDT

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    The pink NHL apparel is atrocious. Thankfully the Canadiens organization recognizes that they have a huge female following and offer all the retro jerseys for women.
  18. anna
    18. Posted by anna Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:59 am EDT

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    I should add that the ladies jersey looks just like an authentic men's jersey: http://shop.nhl.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3172375&cp=3176621&clickid=body_bestsell_img
  19. anna
    19. Posted by anna Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:00 am EDT

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    @jenny_in_big_d "Why the hell do you need a women's cut?"
    Because I have boobs and a smaller men's jersey just didn't fit right for me :)
  20. campbellmcdonald32
    20. Posted by campbellmcdonald32 Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:01 am EDT

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    I'd guess more like
  21. Joel
    21. Posted by Joel Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:01 am EDT

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    My wife won't let me buy her a jersey unless its a female cut jersey and she hates the pink jerseys. As Dallas Stars fans what she wants doesn't exist and until it does she won't buy a jersey.
  22. brian
    22. Posted by brian Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:01 am EDT

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    Don't forget the pink jerseys started for breast cancer, so there is a purpose
  23. campbellmcdonald32
    23. Posted by campbellmcdonald32 Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:01 am EDT

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    less than 5 percent.
    /stupid Yahoo
  24. C.J.
    24. Posted by C.J. Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:02 am EDT

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    The ladies in Pittsburgh don't mind the pink jerseys. I see them everywhere there.
  25. LC
    25. Posted by LC Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:03 am EDT

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    I'm a petite female (5'2"), and I have a youth-sized CCM jersey and and medium RBK Edge jersey. The youth jersey's sleeves are little short, but otherwise fits great. And the medium RBK Edge jersey isn't too bad either. It's a little baggy, but it's nothing like the medium-sized pre-RBK Edge sweaters (I have one of those too and I could use the thing as a tent). I sort of like having a jersey that fits a little looser.
    I have no problem with women-cut jerseys; it's a nice option to have, and have thought about picking one up myself. But, as female hockey fan, I LOATHE the frackin pink glittery abominations and the "ice flirt" BS.

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