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Perhaps the universal endorsement of the 2009 Hockey Hall of Fame class as legends worthy of immortality naturally builds anticipation for 2010, which is a far less predictable collection of newly-eligible players and carryover candidates. As Pierre LeBrun of ESPN writes:

The notable first-year eligibles are Joe Nieuwendyk(notes) and Eric Lindros(notes), then you've got Dave Andreychuk and Alexander Mogilny(notes), who were squeezed out Tuesday in their first years of eligibility. Add in the mix the players who continue to get passed over -- Mark Howe, Kevin Lowe, Doug Gilmour, Adam Oates, Pavel Bure, Dino Ciccarelli and Steve Larmer, among others -- and you've got a wide-open affair for 2010.

LeBrun makes the case for Gilmour and for Lindros, acknowledging the former Philadelphia Flyers captain's candidacy as the essential debate for next season's Hall of Fame vote:

His 865 career points do not rank among the top 100 all time and, in fact, sit one behind Ivan Boldirev. That's a name you're going to hear a lot from the media types trying to knock Lindros down. The difference is, Lindros played 292 fewer games than Boldirev.

The Big E's points-per-game average (1.14) is better than the likes of Mark Messier, Gordie Howe, Marcel Dionne, Bryan Trottier and even newly chosen Hall of Famers Robitaille and Hull.

From yesterday's Hall of Fame coverage to today's rumor chat, puckheads have been asking this question on the blog: Is Eric Lindros a Hall of Famer? Until it's settled by the selection committee, it's one hell of a debate.

Back in my NHL FanHouse days, I wrote about Lindros's legacy when he retired two years ago. The numbers LeBrun cites are an undeniable achievement, even if his games-played were seriously limited by injuries. (Whether you blame Lindros for some of those injuries, playing the game the way he did, is part of the debate.)

From my FanHouse piece:

If Eric Lindros is enshrined in the Hockey Hall of Fame, my preference for his etched glass plaque would be an image of his frozen face under a twisted helmet, resting on the slowly melting ice in Philadelphia during Game 7 of the 2000 Eastern Conference Finals. Somewhere in the corner would be a smaller etching of Scott Stevens, shaking the freight-train impact from his shoulder.

The above is written as a Devils fan who is unable, even as Lindros formally announced the end of his career, to shake the vision of No. 88 as a fragile Messiah; always one championship away from being declared a hockey deity, always one head-shot away from admission to the infirmary. The above is also written as a prime example of the crux in Lindros's Hall of Fame debate: The inability of hockey pundits and fans to separate reputation, hype and personal behavior from the case that can be made for his Hall of Fame credentials.

Back in 2007, when Lindros retired, Michael Farber of SI summarized that debate quite well:

No, Lindros never earned a seat at the Big Guy's table with Gordie, the Rocket, Orr, Gretzky and Mario. But his career can't ever be dismissed as a failure simply because the world set a goal that exceeded his grasp.

Is it fair to say that Lindros had a Hall of Fame career even if he never reached the bars set for him by the media, hockey observers and his peers?

I've been asked about Lindros in a couple of radio spots this week, and I'll repeat what I've said on the air: He was, without question, one of the most dominant players of his generation. He changed the way teams drafted, both in their approach to superstar prospects and in searching out hulking centers. I believe the Hall of Fame should go beyond numbers and weigh the cultural impact of a player on the Game. (Hence my feelings about guys like Mike Gartner and Glenn Anderson.)

The fact that Lindros is a lightning rod candidate for the Hall shows he made an impact during his time as a relevant player in the NHL. Combine that with his numbers and his achievements in non-NHL competition -- the junior level, at the Canada Cup, the World Cup of Hockey and the Olympics -- and he's a prime candidate.

Scott Radley of the Hamilton Spectator believes that "Eric Lindros, Joe Nieuwendyk, Pierre Turgeon(notes) and the rest" are a "rather ordinary group up for induction next year, name recognition notwithstanding." He makes the case that Dave Andreychuk and Gilmour should get the nod next season, and I agree.

That's two. Eric Lindros would, in my Hall, make three. Then you just have to figure out a fourth between Nieuwendyk, Oates and Bure.

But yeah, bottom line: Eric Lindros is a Hall of Famer.

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  1. Magnet-Crotch
    1. Posted by Magnet-Crotch Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:51 pm EDT

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    Lindros is a ho.
  2. Mazarin
    2. Posted by Mazarin Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:54 pm EDT

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    No. Not even close.
  3. Mazarin
    3. Posted by Mazarin Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:01 pm EDT

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    Just to compound my comment, how could someone rated as one of the top overhyped players of all time be a HOFer? This is the wrong kind of "bust" that belongs nowhere near the Hall.
  4. yerry.take
    4. Posted by yerry.take Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:01 pm EDT

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    a subject i can agree with you on, Wysh. Lindros + HoF = Pass
  5. Marko M
    5. Posted by Marko M Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:02 pm EDT

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    sure this is true...
    The Big E's points-per-game average (1.14) is better than the likes of Mark Messier, Gordie Howe, Marcel Dionne, Bryan Trottier and even newly chosen Hall of Famers Robitaille and Hull.
    also...1990 World Junior Championship, 1991 Canada Cup Championship, 2002 Gold Medal along with 1995 MVP, 1995 Lester B Pearson
    sure his career was shortened by injuries but from 1992-1998 he changed the way the game was played for big men...can you honestly tell me someone who was feared as much for his physicality as his scoring touch?
  6. Dan the Obliviousman
    6. Posted by Dan the Obliviousman Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:03 pm EDT

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    Lindros didn't play long enough,and that is the main problem right there.He put up some great numbers,but he didn't last long enough to put up the numbers that someone like Yzerman or Cam Neely for that matter,no matter how you look at it.
  7. Jason M
    7. Posted by Jason M Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:04 pm EDT

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    If Neely is in, Lindros has to be.
  8. Shaun T
    8. Posted by Shaun T Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:05 pm EDT

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    Oh please Lindros is a no
    Gilmour is a yes
  9. buis g
    9. Posted by buis g Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:07 pm EDT

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    New qualification for the hall of fame: A player must have more points in his ENTIRE career than Gretzky had in his first 5 years in the NHL.
  10. Geoffrey S
    10. Posted by Geoffrey S Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:08 pm EDT

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    Do they have a Hall of Overrated Players Whose Rookie Contracts Nearly Killed the Game?
  11. The Bog
    11. Posted by The Bog Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:08 pm EDT

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    Bure scored 60 goals twice, and 59 another season. He is exactly like Lindros in that he was a dominant force in the same time period whose career was cut short by injuries. I don't think you can take Lindros without taking Bure.
  12. Jeremy G
    12. Posted by Jeremy G Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:10 pm EDT

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    And just to extend that thought, Bog, Mogilny should not get in until Bure gets in.
  13. jds8623
    13. Posted by jds8623 Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:10 pm EDT

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    Andreychuck is 1)
    I think Adam Oates has to be number 2) sick sick center. He woukld be if it werent for 2 years ago and this year,already.
    3) Gilmour, the Canadian media wants him in, he is in regardless.
    4) Mogilny or Bure
    Joe N will have to wait.
    If one makes theat argumnent for Lindros, ok, but let Pavel Bure in first. He should wait a few years.
    How about Phil Housley a few years down the road?
  14. The Bog
    14. Posted by The Bog Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:11 pm EDT

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    When Lindros was healthy, he was not overrated. Look at the dudes stats before Stevens (ruiner of careers), scrambled his brain. There's nothing overrated about a 19 year old who scores 43 goals as a center.
  15. MoltarRocks
    15. Posted by MoltarRocks Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    Lindros should be in the Hall of Babies
  16. Dany Heatley Speedwagon
    16. Posted by Dany Heatley Speedwagon Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:14 pm EDT

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    Couldn't we just tell Eric that he was inducted already? It's not like he'd remember.
  17. Dany Heatley Speedwagon
    17. Posted by Dany Heatley Speedwagon Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:16 pm EDT

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    @ 13. Joshua S. - 3) Gilmour, the Toronto media wants him in, he isn't in regardless.
    /fixed
  18. Stilly
    18. Posted by Stilly Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:17 pm EDT

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    I don't think that Lindros should get the Hall nod the first time around. I certainly don't believe he gets a pass because of his health issues. Sometimes concussions happen. It might not be "fair" but thems the breaks. You can't give a guy a spot in the HOF for potential. Saying 'well if he were healthy he would've..." just doesn't cut it when talking about HOF consideration. Lindros was hurt alot and his numbers show it.
    I'd say eventually Lindros gets in, but he's not going to get enough votes the first time around.
  19. Chris L
    19. Posted by Chris L Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:19 pm EDT

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    How can you call Lindros over-hyped? He was an amazing player for a mediocre team, and was the most dominate player in the league for several years. He was probably the most talented power forward to play the game.
  20. Marine 57
    20. Posted by Marine 57 Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:19 pm EDT

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    It's a good debate.
  21. Max_Powers
    21. Posted by Max_Powers Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:22 pm EDT

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    @ 9. Posted by buis
    "New qualification for the hall of fame: A player must have more points in his ENTIRE career than Gretzky had in his first 5 years in the NHL"
    So no goalies or defensemen in the HOF there champ?
  22. Patrick
    22. Posted by Patrick Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:24 pm EDT

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    Great photo of Lindros vs. the Red Wings. Visions of that Stanley Cup sweep of 1997 was just yesterday float through my mind. GO WINGS!!
  23. firewing
    23. Posted by firewing Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:25 pm EDT

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    i have a question does a player's contribution to hockey from all of his life count for something or is it just what he did in the nhl? it seems like he did alot before his nhl days. the other poster was right, teams did have to make game plan changes when they played him. yes the injuries didnt help him obviously. but i hear an argument from some that mario would be the best, except for the injuries. as for the big deal that brought him to philly. how is that his fault, it seems like the gm of the flyers should be held for that one. what few times i watched the guy he did seem to put his whole heart into it. he hit like a truck and did score goals. this could be a good argument for the next year.
  24. Geoffrey S
    24. Posted by Geoffrey S Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:26 pm EDT

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    Max_Powers: eventually the NHL will get rid of goalies and defensemen altogether when they realize they could increase scoring a lot by playing 3 on 3 in front of empty nets.

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