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(Ed Note: This is Part Two of Puck Daddy's interview with Brian Jennings, Executive Vice President of Marketing for the NHL, regarding how the League plans to sell and create interest around the 2009 Winter Classic at Wrigley Field. Read Part One here.)

The first part of our Winter Classic discussion with Brian Jennings, executive vice president of marketing for the NHL, focused on how the League and its media partners planned to use the intrinsic nostalgia and gravitas of Wrigley Field to sell hockey to the masses.

But what about when the marketing stops and the game starts? What Wrigley Field traditions can transfer to a hockey game?

Throwing back home-run balls on the field? While we wouldn't put it past enterprising Chicago Blackhawks fans to smuggle in pucks and toss them from the bleachers when the Detroit Red Wings score, we also can't really endorse the idea, either. (At least officially.)

What about something more benign? Like singing, for example.

Harry Carey's iconic version of "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" during the seventh-inning stretch has already been used in promoting the Winter Classic. Is there any chance we might hear some kind of Carey-esque singing at Wrigley's Winter Classic?

"Great question," said Jennings, in our interview last week. More about that, and several other Winter Classic marketing topics, in Part Two of our conversation.

Regarding singing at the Winter Classic, it sounds like there will be some at the game. Here's what Jennings offered:

"I think at this point, we're trying to think about what would be our twist on the Seventh Inning Stretch. Should we have a celebrity, like it's done in baseball? There are going to be celebrities present at the game; I'm mum on the word right now. We're going to work in something that's creative, to signify that the game is being played at Wrigley."

Celebrities, eh? Combine the famous-for-hockey faces (hello, Taylor Kitsch) with Chicago-bred stars (wonder what Bill Murray and Vince Vaughn are doing on New Year's Day?), and there are possibilities. Jennings offered up Billy Corgan of The Smashing Pumpkins (he, like me, is a fan). Billy's Chicago enough and he's sung at Wrigley before, but if we're going with a guest rocker then you've gotta go with Ozzy again, right?

Speculation aside, there are larger issues at play here. Namely, what they hell would they sing, and when the hell would they sing it?

Perhaps Stompin' Tom Connors' "The Hockey Song?" Is that too long? Remember, Jack Norworth's classic "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" is significantly abridged for public performance. Besides, "The Hockey Song" can be played during a commercial break in an NHL game; it should be Winter Classic worthy, in theory.

But, again, when would they sing it?

"What is the NHL's twist on a Seventh Inning Stretch, knowing that we don't have those kinds of breaks?" said Jennings. "We'll try and orchestrate something that has some fun for the fans."

Getting back to the selling of the Classic, here's more of our conversation with Brian Jennings of the NHL:

PD: Are you going to infuse any humor into this marketing? This ad was great, but it was also super-serious. Bob Costas doesn't help that, either.

JENNINGS: I do believe there's a way to weave it in, and I don't think authenticity and humor need to be mutually exclusive.

Having said that, I have a very strong feeling and point of view that when a League speaks about its brand, you need to do it from a position of authenticity. You can't get too whimsical. Your partners will push you into areas that will stretch your brand, and perhaps even make you a little uncomfortable about how they're doing it. But when leagues speak about it, you have to ground it in authenticity. If you're treating yourself too whimsically, you risk alienating your core [fans].

Think about the job we need to do, from a North American perspective. There needs to be one consistent message, yet when you think about our position as a market-leading brand in Canada and our positioning in the U.S., they're different. So you have to do things a little differently, yet look like it's coming from a single entity.

For example: Our [upcoming] World Juniors ad. In Canada, it's like a passage: The guys who are competing for Team Canada are ultimately going to go on and have incredible careers in the National Hockey League.

So we thought about this concept where we do a montage of players; envision Joe Thornton with his hand in the air, and a big smile on his face; Phil Kessel, Roberto Luongo; heavy Canada, but no just Canada. Marian Hossa, Carey Price, Alexander Ovechkin and then Sidney Crosby. A quick montage of players, all hands elevated in the air, and then it says: "Everyone who got their start in World Juniors, raise your hand."

And then it says, "The World Junior Championships: Where the NHL's best begins."

This is an example of what I'd like to call a brand-elevating piece. You know what, League? Don't take yourself so seriously. There's something else going on in the world of hockey.

It's not done humorously, but it's a tip of the hat to say in this country, the world kind of stops for those two weeks. It's our way of saying there's something else going on that's really important.

Are you at all concerned about using snow and winter weather in the promotion of the 2009 Classic? Because there's no guarantee we're going to have the same aesthetic we had in Buffalo over in Chicago.

All those things get talked about and debated. We weren't trying to give any promise about what the weather was going to be like in Chicago [in the TV ad]. One of the biggest risks in doing this is taking in all of the different weather factors into account: wind to freezing rain on polycarbonate shields. I think the ending with a little bit of snow is just a reminder that the game is outdoors in the wintertime. And having a little bit of fun with a special effect. We didn't want to overdo it.

The last thing I wanted to ask you was about what, if anything, you and NHL marketing have learned from one Winter Classic to the next?

In the first year, even though we have high levels of expectations, I think we were overwhelmed at the success. We put together a marketing plan in Buffalo, working very closely with the Buffalo Sabres; when we sold out in like 40 minutes, we were like "wow." It is a holiday, people have plans; without the historical data, you feel a little naked.

The first year, you take copious notes. You learn a lot. And then we applied all of that knowledge to this year. But every market, every venue has its own challenges. In Year 2, we're very involved with the mayor's office. The rooftops are a different opportunity in Chicago, too.

If I had to encapsulate it, I'd say it's for all hockey fans. It wasn't about Buffalo playing the Pittsburgh Penguins, and this year it's not about Chicago playing Detroit. It's about transcending those markets.

Success for me is to see 28 other markets tuning in, and fans coming together to acknowledge that in a world of other choices, hockey in an engaging game.

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  1. Hamilton Tigers
    1. Posted by Hamilton Tigers Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:10 pm EDT

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    One cool Wrigley tradition would be to have ivy grow on the boards...
  2. Hans Gruber
    2. Posted by Hans Gruber Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:58 pm EDT

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    Play the game at the new Comiskey so the refs will get a severe beat down.
  3. Deker
    3. Posted by Deker Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:31 pm EDT

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    They have about 15 minutes between each period. Shouldn't there be more entertaining things going on than the usual crap?? Elastic-band-rubber-tube races, shoot the puck from mid ice into a 5 inch hole, 5 minutes of pee-wee hockey, shell game on the big screen, etc. Someone please come up with a good tradition for one or two of the intermissions.
  4. carl_vs_mastershake
    4. Posted by carl_vs_mastershake Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:18 pm EDT

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    HOCKEY IS NOT BASEBALL. DO NOT TRY TO INFUSE ANYTHING! Baseball is mind numbing boring and it has NOTHING to offer.
  5. carl_vs_mastershake
    5. Posted by carl_vs_mastershake Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:18 pm EDT

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    The guy in the picture has caught a Buffaslug. They do exist.
  6. Blackcapricorn
    6. Posted by Blackcapricorn Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:08 pm EDT

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    Why can't they have the gravitas in those Canadian ads for the WJC played here in the US? Why do we get the Syd in the hotel room bits (which is great) and not some of these other great ads from North of the Border? I think the NHL tries to sell hockey to hockey fans which seems to be a losing proposition to me.
  7. OOO
    7. Posted by OOO Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:48 pm EDT

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    At Wrigley Field above the scoreboard there are three flag poles. During Cubs games on each pole are the team flags of a NL division in order of their current position in the standings. I think the NHL should do the same thing with the poles using the divisions in the Western Conference. Also, they should put up the Hawks retired numbers on the foul poles like the Cubs have their retired numbers during baseball games.
  8. Hockey Blog Adventure
    8. Posted by Hockey Blog Adventure Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:01 pm EDT

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    On the WJC ad:
    Better than just the people with their hands in the air, have goal celebration shots/clips where the players put their hands in the air. Seriously, it would be so much better that way.
  9. Anthrax Jones
    9. Posted by Anthrax Jones Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:42 pm EDT

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    Come on, only three words for this one: "Topless Sarah Spain".
  10. joe h
    10. Posted by joe h Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:26 pm EDT

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    Some kinda goofy sing-a-long would be fun, provided it's something that people know. I'm a hockey nut, and to be honest, I don't know the hockey song :(
    All this hype makes me upset. I woulda LOVED to go to a Rangers-Bruins tilt in Yankee Stadium.
  11. WM5K
    11. Posted by WM5K Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:49 pm EDT

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    Didn't they stop play at the 10 minute mark of the second period last year for the teams to switch the direction of attack, so as to make the game fair (i.e. snow in the face, etc...)? I realize this was probably due to the weather occurances of the specific day, but if this was made the norm for these games, they could play 'The Hockey Song' while they are doing the half-time shuffle.
  12. jibblescribbits
    12. Posted by jibblescribbits Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:34 pm EDT

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    How about the Islanders and Kings play at Comiskey in the "Red-Headed Stepchild" classic.
  13. Hamilton Tigers
    13. Posted by Hamilton Tigers Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:10 pm EDT

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    @Anthrax Jones - THE BEST IDEA YET!
  14. MichaelP
    14. Posted by MichaelP Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:37 pm EDT

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    If you want to look elsewhere to infuse fun traditions into the NHL, look at college hockey.
  15. Mazarin
    15. Posted by Mazarin Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:24 pm EDT

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    @ #5: LOL
    @ #7: I was thinking the same thing w/ the mast, but the idea w/ the retired numbers is fantastic!
  16. Sarah - a.k.a. Sweetness
    16. Posted by Sarah - a.k.a. Sweetness Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:34 pm EDT

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    Too cold to go topless. Sorry. ; )
    As for the song..."Here Come The Hawks" just doesn't have a sing-a-long feel to it. Despite being written in 1968--sixty years after "Take Me Out To The Ballgame"--it hasn't aged as well as the baseball classic. Sounds like cheesy elevator music.
    They'd almost have to have someone just sing an iconic Chicago song--something like "Sweet Home Chicago." Eh, even that isn't right.
  17. Billkamm
    17. Posted by Billkamm Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:26 pm EDT

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    There IS a seventh inning stretch in the Winter Classic. Because it is outdoors they have 4 periods of play. 2 20min. periods and 2 10 min periods (split the 3rd in half). They could sing take me out to the ballgame while they switch sides during the 3rd period.
  18. patrick
    18. Posted by patrick Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:37 pm EDT

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    oh god.
    first off, no in chicgo likes the 7th inning stretch w/ a celebrity. no one.
    secondly, celebrities?
    speaking as a proud chicagoan, if jim belushi is anywhere near this thing, i'm gonna go ape [profane].
  19. A Yahoo! User
    19. Posted by A Yahoo! User Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:36 pm EST

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    okay, i was shocked and completely embarrassed when the 2008 Chicago Cubs were swept immediately out of the playoffs this past October, and to be honest saying wait until next year is getting more difficult to utter with each and every bithday, so after just barely recovering from the playoff debacle i wake up one morning to the news that the Cubs were going after the Padres' Jake Peavy...WHAT? WHY? it seems to me that a far better move would be to spend money on a very good sports pyschologist for Derrick Lee, Aramez Ramiez, and Alphonso Soriana, all of whom CHOCKED in a major league post-season collapse...it wasn't the pitching that was the problem, in the regular or post season but those three sluggers who didn't contribute nearly enough in the playoffs. i would like to see the Cubs go out and give Randy Johnson--a proven winner and a proven CLUCTH performer--the one year contract that the lefty is seeking, and forget Peavy...then you can trade Marguise for another left-handed power-hitter...
  20. trollinnanger
    20. Posted by trollinnanger Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:21 pm EDT

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    The best Wrigley tradition of all: A Blackhawks loss.
  21. Al S.
    21. Posted by Al S. Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:51 pm EDT

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    wait, the league doesn't want to alienate its core fans?
    that's a scoop Wysh!
  22. Reed
    22. Posted by Reed Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:19 pm EDT

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    Spain: don't pretend that it's not at least a possibility if you're in the bleachers that day.
    Brian Jennings seems to potentially be a flesh and blood savior for the NHL. The promo is phenomenal and his comments about transcending all sports with respect to understanding that hockey is number 1 in Canada but not in the U.S. are accurate and I am very optimisitc for what the NHL will do in the future.
  23. MDED
    23. Posted by MDED Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:00 pm EDT

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    it should have been at comerica park not wrigley
  24. Johnny Appleseed
    24. Posted by Johnny Appleseed Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:39 pm EDT

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    Since the Winter Classic will become a tradition, might I suggest the future sites?
    2009: New York, a full-on battle between the Rangers and (insert team x here. Perhaps the Flyers).
    2010: Vancouver, in kind of a pre-Olympics showdown, but need to include a U.S. team that hasn't been in one yet. Say, Colorado?
    2011: Boston, in an Original 6 matchup against Montreal. At Fenway or Gillette, it won't matter.
    And finally....
    2012: Dallas, because once Barack Obama's environmental policies take over, the globe will cool to a crisp 20 degrees in January in Texas. They will face San Jose. /sarcasm
  25. Sledge Longfellow
    25. Posted by Sledge Longfellow Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:30 pm EDT

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    Gary Glitter for a live performance of Rock'n'Roll Part II ... after which he is beaten to death at center ice by a lucky fan with a bat signed by Ernie Banks.

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