Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:26 am EDT
There are different levels of honesty for an NHL head coach. There's "coach-speak," like "we just didn't execute tonight," which is his way of saying "these idiots couldn't find a hole in a slice of Swiss." There's stating the obvious, which Toronto Maple Leafs coach Ron Wilson did when he said rookie goaltender Justin Pogge wasn't ready for the NHL; Pogge wasn't even ready to start in the AHL playoff last season.
But Wilson reached a rare level of honesty for an NHL coach recently, when faced with questions from the always-rabid Toronto hockey media about the team's chances this season:
"It was an exhibition game - it didn't bother me at all," Wilson said Sunday. "What bothers me is being asked asinine questions while you're trying to give young players a chance. "We're not going to win the Stanley Cup this year. There's a news flash for you."
If you wanted to know the difference between Paul Maurice and Ron Wilson, here's Exhibit A. Maurice infamously predicted a playoff berth and that Toronto would contend for the Cup before last season; Wilson has gone from making no predictions about the 2008-09 Leafs to declaring "we're not going to win the Stanley Cup this year."
Is this honestly too brutal? As we said in our Leafs preview this weekend, management has already put out the vibe that this team doesn't have NHL talent and that the playoffs aren't likely. The bar is ridiculously low, and Wilson has put his foot on it to drop it even lower.
But is it fair to the fans when the head coach declares before a single regular season shift has been completed that this is basically a lost season for the franchise? Mirtle offered this thought:
I'm of the belief that, no matter how bad you get, there's still a lot of parity in this league - and especially in the Eastern Conference. Toronto will definitely struggle to score goals this season, but they're not alone in that, and I don't think it's ludicrous to think they could steal some games and hang around longer in the race for eighth than many believe.
Add in the unpredictable Sundin factor, and those chances increase.
Look, the Leafs are likely going to be closer to Atlanta's point total from last season than their own. But that's for bloggers and pundits to declare -- not NHL head coaches.
Anyone with any modicum of professional pride on that team is going to risk his health every game to secure victory for that locker room, for those fans and for that city. Wilson's preseason "prediction" is a reckless insult to that professionalism. Some things are better left unsaid, no matter how refreshingly candid they are.
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Ron is calling out the front office and this is what this sorry franchise needs.
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As a leaf fan, we all know that the Leafs are rebuilding. We all know this team is going to be young and fast, and probably lose a lot of games. Who knows, things may come together faster than we imagine, and they might not be as bad as people say. Ron is just saying what we all know anyway. I don't see anything wrong with it.
Maybe it's one of those "Prove me wrong boys!" inspirational strategies.
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The media may put more thought in questioning him in the future.
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Like I said in this post, that's for me or a newspaper or a fan to say. Ron Wilson speaks for the organization. If the company line is that the Leafs can't compete for a title this season, what's the use in even icing a team? Forfeit every game, let some contracts expire, and then come back and play in 2010.
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But it was a rude answer. Considering we're only in the pre-season, how is he going to react to the attention and pressure in March (when they'll probably be far below 500)?
You need to have a tougher chin than that to work in Toronto. Pat Quinn had difficulties dealing with it at first and over time, he mastered it.
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That's a bit of a stretch. If only the teams that had a legitimate chance at the cup played, there would be 20 something teams sitting at home each year.
This is a rebuilding year, the reason they are playing this year is so the young players can play and be better next season. The players will come and play because that's what they are paid to do.
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Pre- season games are nothing but practice and a chance for younger players to play, that normally would never be called up to play in the NHL unless there were a rash of injuries.
You tell them Ron.
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Rebuilding or not, telling your fans that this team isn't going to win the Stanley Cup is telling them they're wasting their time. Look, we're only a few seasons removed from a No. 8 seed with a blistering-hot goalie making the SCF. If nothing else, Toskala looks legit, so who the hell knows, right?
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I respectfully disagree. Ron Wilson is the perfect man to say this. He knows all about not winning the Stanley Cup from his time with San Jose.
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I have to agree with the other guys here. Ron Wilson was somewhat muzzled here in this small town media market of San Jose last year so now that he has moved to a hockey crazy environment, I think he is putting the media in it's place in regards to what is and isn't important to know about his team.
In fact, I believe it is absolutely professional of him to be honest (even if somewhat brutal) to the fan base on what level of talent he is working with in Toronto. That city has had too much smoke blown up it's you know where to really understand where they are at as a competitive entity in the NHL.
I think being a Leafs fan is skewing your emotions in this instance so take it from a Sharks fan that has seen his type of communication for the last 4 years; enjoy it for what it's worth because he really is an excellent coach!
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If people only watched to see the team that would win the cup, about 20 teams would have zero attendance. Just because you wont win the cup one year (which is what all teams but one do anyway) doesnt mean you're wasting your time. Its plenty interesting to watch a team rebuild and speculate on how the team is rebuilding and if its a recipe for success. It is NOT telling your fans to give up...
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B. Stop playing Devil's Advocate and trying to trick me into thinking that you never know what could happen. I (and most of Leafs' fans) have made peace with lowered (ie realistic) expectations.
C. It's a challenge to the players. He and Fletcher are saying that they are not good enough. Now it's up to the players to try to prove them wrong. It's no different from any other of the million of instances of coaches trying to tell their players that it's them against the world.
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Lose some ticket sales? We haven't won a cup in over 40 years! Yet it's still impossible to get Leafs tickets. I don't think an honest coach will have any effect on the bottom line. If there is anything we are used to in Toronto, it's watching hockey teams that won't win the Stanley Cup.
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I get what you are saying, but...
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