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We've had about as many memorable fights this postseason as we've had Ottawa Senators games. Yet there have been two stories dominating the Philadelphia Flyers/Pittsburgh Penguins news cycle, and one of them is a celebration of potential pugilism: The Big Georges Laraque effect, and how Flyers players like Riley Cote will have to counteract it. (The other big story, of course, is the loss of  Kimmo Timonen to a blood clot in his left ankle; as devastating an injury as the Flyers could possibly suffer, considering how dominating he's been defensively and on special teams. This is a loss on the "Forsberg out for Colorado" level; a complete game-changer.)

Tecmo from Pittsburgh Sports and Mini Ponies (awesome) frames the Laraque v. Flyers narrative with this memorable fight between BGL and Cote from just over a month ago:

That April 2nd fight allowed BGL to get in Cote's head (and nearly knocked that head off). Sure, Cote is pretty fearless and will fight anyone, but his inexperience (compared to guys like BGL) causes him to bite off more than he can sometimes chew. Should the two players fight in order to sway momentum, Cote goes into the brawl knowing that the last time the guys tangled, Cote's helmet went into orbit. Sure, hockey players are tough, but something that extraordinary has to leave some doubt in a guy's mind.

So is BGL really inside Cote's head already? And does Laraque expect the same kind of bloodbath the media seems to anticipate?

First of all, it appears Cote may be a Game 1 scratch as this series gets going tonight. But when he does play, Cote told Sun Media that the helmet-launching fight hasn't rattled him, and that his impact in this series will come from more than his fists:

Cote's 202 penalty minutes this season included a pair of tilts with Pittsburgh's Georges Laraque, probably the most respected heavyweight in the game. After the second one, early last month, Laraque told reporters how much he respected Cote, which was, admittedly, a bit of a thrill for a 26-year-old rookie trying to make a name for himself.

Cote had his helmet knocked off in the scrap, but he has his head on pretty straight about how much of an impact he can have in the playoffs. "The playoffs is not about making a name for yourself, fighting-wise," he said. "It's more than that. Get on the forecheck, wear out the defencemen and just keep guys honest.

"I can definitely play the game. I wasn't a meatball my whole life. In juniors I put up some decent numbers. But I've accepted my role. I can be responsible and I can skate. You can't play in the NHL if you can't skate."

(Sometimes you just wish stories had run in the NY Post instead of other newspapers. "COTE: I'M NO MEATBALL" would be hanging on our office wall right now.)

The idea of Cote and the Flyers trying to counteract the force of nature that is BGL, or using their physical play to snuff out Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin makes many a hockey fan drool. But as Laraque told ESPN, that idea was floated before the series against the Rangers, too; and Sean Avery ended up being a non-factor. "People, they want it so much ... Everybody's going to be so disappointed," he said.

BGL detailed that thought further in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review:

Now, it's entirely possible that some players will have a lapse during the series, that there will be times when anger overrides sound judgment. Still, knowing an ill-considered or selfish penalty could cost one's team the chance to compete for a championship should be a powerful deterrent.

"I don't think it will be a circus at all because you get a bad penalty and it can cost you a game," Penguins right winger Georges Laraque said. "Look at [Ryan] Hollweg's penalty on [Petr] Sykora [in Game 3 of the second round]. That gave us the game in New York that we needed to finish it in five.

"One penalty can be the difference. We're thinking about the Stanley Cup. If we win this series, we go to the Stanley Cup final. What's bigger than that?"

So many times in hockey, we're ready for fire and we don't even get smoke. It could happen again here, which is a damn shame; because in many ways, players like Steve Downie and Cote and Laraque are more interesting and compelling than the offensive stars in this series. We want to know about the Pittsburgh Penguin who's the best fighter in hockey that doesn't really want to fight. Or Cote, the Philadelphia Flyers brawler who is currently under fire by the media for having banners that support the Winnipeg chapter of the Hell's Angels on his MySpace page. (Although glancing at it today, did he remove it?)

Here's hoping the series lives up to its brutal hype.

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  1. Brian
    1. Posted by Brian Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:13 pm EDT

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    No
  2. tootsie
    2. Posted by tootsie Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:32 pm EDT

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    Like Brashear, Laraque is an untalented goon...with even less talent.
  3. Koba
    3. Posted by Koba Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:24 pm EDT

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    Ulf Samuelson was a goon, Laraque is a bruiser
  4. tootsie
    4. Posted by tootsie Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:32 pm EDT

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    Ulf was too dumb to be a goon. Laraque is a luiser, not a bruiser.
  5. Tecmo
    5. Posted by Tecmo Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:45 pm EDT

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    Greg - Thanks for the love. Keep killin' it here.
    Tootsie - That might be the most uneducated thing I've ever heard. Laraque, only on ice when the situation calls for him (4th line or if opposing bruisers are out), has a goal and assist in these playoffs. Add that to 4 goals and 9 assists in the regular season. Cote, playing just one less game than BGL in the regular season, had only 1 goal and 3 assists. He's scoreless in the postseason. There's a reason he's only played 3 games in the playoffs to this point. Because HE'S the goon with minimal hockey talent that a coach can't afford to keep on the ice in every game.
    And this doesn't take into account Laraque's passing ability and how guys can barely separate him from the puck when he's behind the net.
  6. marvin
    6. Posted by marvin Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:21 pm EDT

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    When the Flyers resort to dirty play (and they will), Laraque will castorate. We will see if Hatcher lacks the balls for anymore dirty shots...
  7. olivematador
    7. Posted by olivematador Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:44 pm EDT

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    You can't sling mud at BGL, just look at his points, and plus minus, not to mention his community service off the ice. He speaks ill of no one in interviews. He is a man of merit. A real hockey player. You won't find a more complete enforcer. PENS in 5 beeeeeeeyotches!
  8. davedc
    8. Posted by davedc Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:37 pm EDT

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    "When the Flyers resort to dirty play (and they will), Laraque will castorate. "
    The pens are one of the dirtiest teams out there, they don't resort to dirty play, they ALWAYS play that way.
    They Flyers have been deemed dirty only by the media and the other teams that wish they were where the Flyers are now. They have proven that they are not nearly as dirty a team as the pens. The pens have goons like laraque and ruutu who are out only to injure the other teams players. The Flyers have only Cote to try to defend themselves with. The refs give Cote a penalty almost every time he steps on the ice, they allow the pens goons to run at people at will. The pens are dirty, you know it, I know it and the media and league know it...but the league needs to keep crosby and malkin in the spotlight, so the refs will continue to protect the whole team.
  9. Six-burgh Steelers
    9. Posted by Six-burgh Steelers Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:30 pm EDT

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    Right on Tecmo! Going to be a hell of a series. There's others on the team who aren't afraid to drop the gloves (Malone, Roberts although Robert's favorite punching bag was traded, ha, ha) even if Laraque wouldn't play. I don't think there will be many fights but there will definitely be some nasty hitting and after-the-whistle skirmishes and face-washing. Hopefully no Flyers will take the role that Avery did. Don't be surprised if someone does and ends up with the goalie stick where the sun don't shine. Pens in 6. . . Let's Go Pens!!!!
  10. Tecmo
    10. Posted by Tecmo Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:45 pm EDT

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    Grumps - Do you watch hockey? Ruutu is a pest, not someone who goes to injure. Ruutu has injured players before, but don't hold grudges against him for things that happened before he came to Pittsburgh. Laraque is an enforcer, who politely asks the oppsing player if hed like to fight. Watch any play by Scott Hartnell in the past few games against Pittsburgh and tell me he isn't dirty. Or the high stick from Hatcher to Sid in Sid's rookie year that split both his lips and knocked out a few teeth.
    If the league "needs" to keep players like Sid and Malkin in the spotlight, why is a player like A.O. out? And how does this "conspiracy" make teams not able to solve MAF?
    Wysh - Man, this is the one bad thing about moving from Deadspin to Yahoo. Crazy commenters.
  11. Six-burgh Steelers
    11. Posted by Six-burgh Steelers Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:30 pm EDT

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    Ok. . . if the Pens are the dirtiest teams, why only a few suspensions? Why so many and so long for the Flyers?
    Late hits are one thing. Slamming a guy in the boards from behind who's standing 4 feet from the them is a huge difference. Ruutu's a chirper. He gets under their skin. You show me the dirty hits from the Pens and I'll double or triple that from hits by the Flyers. Look at years past and you'll see that the Flyers always played dirty against the Pens (2006-2007 season): Slashing not called, almost broke Maxime Talbot's wrist. The highlight of the 89 playoffs (Wregget fighting at center ice). Always played that way against the Pens. Ruutu and Laraque, goons maybe but they can produce offense (Rangers series) but are needed for when players take cheap shots against Malkin and Crosby. So don't run your mouth tryin to make the flyers look like they play with halos on their heads.
    I know. Let's keep count on how many cheap shots each team takes. That'll settle this once and for all.
  12. olivematador
    12. Posted by olivematador Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:44 pm EDT

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    Rght on Tecmo! There is a big difference in Hartnell's temper tantrum, emotion driven, assaults then a calculated physical game that is played by the Pen's tough guys.
  13. TomF
    13. Posted by TomF Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:02 pm EDT

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    "Slamming a guy in the boards from behind who's standing 4 feet from the them is a huge difference.'' Laraque did just that to Downie, drilling him head-first into the glass from behind, leaving his skates, earlier this year. Obviously the league figured Downie had it coming, b/c there was no suspension, even though it admittedly was a carbon copy. Still, Downie ended up w/a concussion and it could've been much worse.
    Also, Ruutu went knee-to-knee on Briere, which cost Briere a week late in the season.
    The Flyers are no angels, but knock it off with the sainted Pens thing. As events have proven this year, Laraque and Ruutu are as cheap and dirty as anyone in the league. BTW, it would be pretty funny to see Laraque "castorate'' someone, that means he'll be skating with castor oil on board!
  14. Dean
    14. Posted by Dean Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:39 pm EDT

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    Wow...Georges hit his helmet and the chin strap released. That is amazing! Simply Amazing!
    Another great article by Greg Wyshynski. Keep up the pointless writing!
  15. Bounty Hunters
    15. Posted by Bounty Hunters Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:11 pm EDT

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    Pens fans need to STFU......where is all this blather when the Pens aren't doin well?....where were all these front runners when the team almost had to move because of low attendence?....I lived in the burgh for 6 years....durin this time the Pens were reported behind golf on the local sports channels, and they would get maybe a story that wasn't a recap of last nights game.....now you guys are acting like you invented hockey...be happy you connected on all those high first round picks you recieved for suckin for so long.....flyer fans are loyal, even during down and mediocre years they sellout.....too bad Kimmo is out, big advantage for pens...wonder how they'll explain losing to the flyers in 7?
  16. redemption_value
    16. Posted by redemption_value Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:34 pm EDT

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    I've been a loyal Pens fan since 1967, I grew up playing hockey in Pittsburgh. I played in the Pittsburgh Amateur Hockey League, for the Swissvale/Edgewood high school hockey team, the Gateway High School hockey team, and late my Dad and I started the high school hockey club in Murrsyville. I was the first captain of that team.
    I've seen first hand the popularity of modern hockey in Pittsburgh grow from next to nothing to sell outs of every game.
    So I have to make a point about the chumps who decry Pens fans as bandwagon. That kind of talk is not fair or informed. You just don't know what you are talking about.
    The ups and downs the Pens have faced over the years have involved city officials that have not taken professional hockey seriously, owners that abused the team or worked deals for short terms gains at long term expense, and poor management.
    It has taken a great deal of time, coupled with the great good fortune of Mario Lemieux making it his mission, for the Penguins to have become as popular as they are in Pittsburgh.
    The popularity has grown significanlty over the years, maybe not in some linear progression, but the fans are loyal.
    The stars aligned for Flyer fans in the 70's, while the Pens were said to be one player away from being a Cup contending team: Star rookie Michel Brière died from complication after an auto accident.
    Howard Baldwin bet the farm and everything to win the Cups in the early 90s.
    Now with Mario running the show we have a new arena on the way, a more stable organization, and a great team.
    Expect the Penguins fan base to continue growing and don't mouth off about stuff you don't know about.
  17. Max_Powers
    17. Posted by Max_Powers Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:33 pm EDT

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    What's all the crap about bandwagon fans? Who cheers for a losing team? Oh yeah, Philly. Your season ends in 4 games. Enjoy cheering for the losing team ;-)
  18. Joshua L
    18. Posted by Joshua L Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:31 pm EDT

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    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08095/870478-61.stm
  19. Sam
    19. Posted by Sam Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:28 pm EDT

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    Pittsburgher, aka p*ssy d*ck
    how can you say philly is a losing team...for one thing can any pens fan tell me how many top 2 overall picks it took you to get to this point. and since i know you have trouble counting the answer is 3 (Fleury, Malkin, and Crosby). If we were such a losing team wouldn't we have more high draft picks then that?????
  20. Six-burgh Steelers
    20. Posted by Six-burgh Steelers Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:30 pm EDT

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    I never said that the pens played like saints but everyone describes laraque and ruutu as goons and nothing else which is bullsh*t. Unless you've watched every pens game you have no room to talk. . . guess that kinda contradicts some of what I said but I'm tired of people trying to find ways to make the pens look like a terrible team. They're not. Whether you like it or not, they are an amazing team. The chemistry that they have is amazing. If you don't like the way they play, don't watch the games. If all you can do is whine about how they play, go in the corner and suck on your thumb. If the Pens were as pathetic as many of you describe, they would have been gone after the first round, if they had even made it. The Pens showed what they're made of and proved the doubters wrong and so did the Flyers. That's why these 2 teams are here in the Conference finals.
    Thank you to the gentleman who brought up the politic portion of the pens. That's absolutely true. Again, many of you who base your comments on what you've seen on the ice and in the arena need to look at everything that's involved with a team. And ya know what, If your team was that bad you wouldn't have as many fans at games either. Don't try to prove it otherwise, it's just human nature.
    Pens won the first game. Can't blame it on the refs. Both teams had 3 power plays. Only one person (Upshall) with a misconduct for stupidity. They played nice the first game. . . let's see where it goes in game 2.

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