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Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:00 pm EDT

Is a Detroit-Pittsburgh trilogy possible?

There are a few more days until the NHL awards are handed out and a week until the entry draft is being seriously discussed. That's not stopping The Hockey News' Ken Campbell from opining on next season already. Well, next spring to be precise:

"If you liked what you saw from this year's Stanley Cup final - and if you didn't you're either a Detroit Red Wings fan or you might want to check to see that you have a pulse - you might want to consider getting used to seeing these teams steal the show at the NHL's annual spring dance.

There's no reason to believe the Pittsburgh Penguins and Red Wings won't be treating the hockey world to lots of deep playoff runs in the next couple of years. And who knows? Perhaps we'll all be back here watching the Red Wings wrest the Stanley Cup back from the Penguins?"

Looking at both teams and their salary cap situations, the Penguins have their core players locked up for a while. The other free agents, Bill Guerin(notes), Petr Sykora(notes), Ruslan Fedotenko(notes), Miroslav Satan(notes), Craig Adams(notes), Hal Gill(notes), Phillipe Boucher, and Mathieu Garon(notes), could join the annual list of players who won't be on the roster when the Stanley Cup banner is raised the following fall. Rob Scuderi(notes) will be highly desired after his play in the Finals, especially his Game 6 goaltending clinic.

Marian Hossa(notes) will be at the top of the summer to-do list for Red Wings general manager Ken Holland. Rumors have Detroit ready to offer him a long-term deal, something that the Edmonton Journal's Jim Matheson brought up in his column this morning. Should Hossa be signed, that could be the end to a number of long-time Wings such as Kris Draper(notes) and Tomas Holmstrom(notes) to free up cap space.

Who could challenge both Detroit and Pittsburgh in their respective conferences? The Washington Capitals and Boston Bruins will surely be reloaded for a chance at long playoff runs in the Eastern Conference. Can Martin Brodeur(notes) give New Jersey one more run? Will Carolina rebound from a disappointing exit?

Out West, you'd have to think the Chicago Blackhawks learned from their defeat at the hands of the Red Wings and will take that with them into next season. Will the Sedin twins stay and provide the offense in Vancouver? And San Jose? Nevermind. We know how that'll end.

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  1. Larry
    1. Posted by Larry Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:06 pm EDT

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    Don't forget about the Islanders. Them boys is good.
  2. Tapeleg
    2. Posted by Tapeleg Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:08 pm EDT

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    Please, no.
  3. Amit
    3. Posted by Amit Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:11 pm EDT

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    My prediction: Wing will not make it to the final again. And they will blame the league for that.
  4. FlyersDiva
    4. Posted by FlyersDiva Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:19 pm EDT

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    I think the Flyers will be a contender again in the east. Even though we beat them 4 games to 2, a lot those games the Flyers out played us where the Pens were able to whether the storm a pull out a victory in the end. They are always active every Free Agency season (already taking a gamble signing a goalie) and you know they'll be one of the teams in the Boumeister hunt. Plus that Girou kid came out of nowhere and was probably their best player in the series. These 2 teams are just born to be rivalries.
    The Bruins will be back as well, assuming they take care of signing their goalie.
    Hell the east is so competitive it's going to be a toss up every single season. The Pens won the cup and they were an inch from not even making the playoffs.
  5. Joe B
    5. Posted by Joe B Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:29 pm EDT

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    I agree about the Flyers. My pre-playoff thought was that the winner of that series would make the Finals. Of course, I had them playing Vancouver, but it is what it is. :)
  6. gsmflight66
    6. Posted by gsmflight66 Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:31 pm EDT

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    not gonna happen again. Penguins and Reed Wings will be good but will have time in the playoffs. Capitals will win the east and Chicago will win the west.
  7. J.S.
    7. Posted by J.S. Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:37 pm EDT

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    since my post got chopped:
    Now if you can convince Hossa to sign for 2.6 mil, then best of luck. I don't foresee him signing for half of what he was making while in his prime. Even with the above scenario, that would give the Wings 5 mil. I doubt Hossa signs for that, or even if that situation will even present itself. The only way Hossa will be back if Holland somehow finds a way to move Rafalski, and I'm not sure there's too many people that are gonna be willng to pay $6m for an undersized #2-3 defenseman who will be 36 when the season starts and picks up half of his points on the power play.
  8. Bleed
    8. Posted by Bleed Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:37 pm EDT

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    personally i'd like to see columbus make it... i'd also like to be a millionare too... but hey thats what video games are for right?
  9. i4ni
    9. Posted by i4ni Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:39 pm EDT

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    "Can Brodeur give the Devils one more run?" It wasn't Marty who got NJ to the playoffs last year, it was a soon-to-be UFA named Scott Clemmensen whom they demoted once Marty came back. I agree with Malkingirl71 as the Flyers should be one of the upper-echelon teams in the East. They were upper-echelon last year but the penalties killed them in the long run. Goaltending will be their main focus as Emery's now a Flyer and Biron, if he would come back at a lesser price, would really solidify their issue(s) and let both BIron and Emery fight it out to prove to each other and the Flyers organization that they are the true starters. Either way, that tandem of Biron/Emery is better than Biron/Nittymaki. The East, especially the Atlantic Division, is going to be packed full of action from the pre-season all the way down to the last game of the regular season. I don't think their will be a three-peat of the Wings/Pens in the 2010 FInals as both teams, especially the Wings, having major players that can go elsewhere and solidify another team. Hudler, Holmstrom or Scuderi could definitely help out NJ immediately and resolve some major issues they face right now.
  10. J.S.
    10. Posted by J.S. Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:39 pm EDT

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    Malkingirl, the Bruins locked up that Drew Carey lookalike of a goalie before the playoffs started. Signed either a 4 year or 5 year deal for 5m a season.
  11. Doox
    11. Posted by Doox Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:44 pm EDT

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    i think there's a lot of parrallels between the Pens and the Blackhawks. Both teams have a young core with talented players, both needed a year to get their feet wet in the playoffs. I think next year is Chicago's to come out of the West.
  12. Free Candy
    12. Posted by Free Candy Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:48 pm EDT

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    "And San Jose? Nevermind. We know how that'll end." Ouch!
  13. Free Candy
    13. Posted by Free Candy Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:51 pm EDT

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    That would be pretty crazy if it happened...after last season it seemed very possible that it would be the Red Wings and the Penguins in the final....I don't think it will happen this year, there's a few clubs that can challenge both Detroit and Pittsburgh...Chicago, Anaheim, Dallas (when healthy) vs DET. Washington, Philly, Boston, the Canes if they add a D and another scorer for the Pens.
  14. dh
    14. Posted by dh Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:54 pm EDT

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    not next year, but maybe in 2011, penns wont even make the playoffs next year, not with every regular season game being a playoff game next season. now they get to find out what the redwings have been fighting through for years, the redwings are still the leagues measuring stick.
  15. FreeBonds
    15. Posted by FreeBonds Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:54 pm EDT

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    Holmstrom to the Penguins!
  16. digitalgypsy66
    16. Posted by digitalgypsy66 Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:54 pm EDT

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    @7 Kronwall was still subtly interfering with Crosby on the handshake line, that's why he missed Lidstrom.
    I could see a trilogy -- both teams have their cores locked up with depth in the minors. Could be a nice rivalry for the next few seasons.
  17. Bruce
    17. Posted by Bruce Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:00 pm EDT

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    These deep playoff runs take a toll. More nicks and knocks, less time to recover. It's tough to get back.
    Last team to make three Final series in a row was the 1983-84-85 Edmonton Oilers.
  18. Bubbabanjo
    18. Posted by Bubbabanjo Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:10 pm EDT

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    OK............OK.....let me stop all of this and quotea famous orator. Really one of the finest
    thespians of our age..............
    The Iron Shiek:
    "Yoooooooooouuuuuuu Jobronie..........I will put you
    in the Camel Clutch.......I will break your back.....
    I will bend you over.........and make you ummmble!!!!
    I spit on you..........ehhhhhhhhhhhh thppppttttttt!!!"
    Oh that just makes me all teary eyed.....yes stirring.
    I hope you enjoyed being made ummmmmmmmmbbbbble Red Wings. Dont sit for a
    while....it will feel better soon.
    LOOOOOOOOSEEEEERRRRRR!!! PENS WIN!!!!!!!! AHHHH HA HA HA!
  19. Marcus W
    19. Posted by Marcus W Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:16 pm EDT

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    You really do not think the Sharks cannot make a run? People seem to forget that before Detroit had their great success in the 90's, they were bounced in earlier rounds consistently. And just three years ago? President's Trophy winner Detroit bounced from the first round, and they were able to turn it around.
  20. Guy S
    20. Posted by Guy S Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:27 pm EDT

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    the wings will be a consistent contender as well as the pens injuries pending of course. hawks will be up there for sure. capitals fans your team needs some work defensively you looked terrible in the playoffs and in the season at times. Boston needs to stay healthy or get its farm program going better because thats killed them in this years playoffs and last years. sharks great team but sounds like you guys might be changing the team up a bit so next year could be fun in terms of new faces and another good run.
    surprise teams for next year- Wild usually under achievers but with a new coach and possibly some new faces with trades could make for a good run.
    Montreal dont know what happened to you this year but not great maybe this year will be a good bounce back
    Toronto should expect some growth out of them with the new GM and the rebuilding starting
    Blue jackets and Nashville both these teams should make a good run
  21. Marty Schneider
    21. Posted by Marty Schneider Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:46 pm EDT

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    Trilogy!? More like Thrillogy! LOL. snap. snap.
  22. Cale P
    22. Posted by Cale P Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:53 pm EDT

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    It's definitely possible - they're arguably the 2 best run franchises in the league right now. But you have to take the field in this situation, and it's still pre-free agent time, so there's no telling what moves might happen. The Isles could get Tavares and the Sedin twins. Kessel could sign with a borderline team like Anaheim (please, God, no). Montreal could replace Price with Andrew Raycroft (please, God, yes). Who knows! Ask next March.
  23. Bubbabanjo
    23. Posted by Bubbabanjo Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:59 pm EDT

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    Herpes keeps coming back too.............
  24. Christopher
    24. Posted by Christopher Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:04 pm EDT

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    Well here's the main question - what is going to happen to the salary cap. And, how much are the biggest paid players going to hamstring both clubs in the future. The Cap is supposed to stay flat for next year, and then possibly go down by $4 - $5 million.
    For example. Malkin - $9.4 million per season, Crosby - $8.7 million.
    Vs.
    Zetterberg - $6.08 million, Datsyuk - $6.7 million, Franzen - $3.95 million.
    So Detroit has 3 elite players for less money than Pittsburgh, although you could debate the relative playing capability of the players.
    (I'm not forgetting Lidstrom - but his contract is up just when the cap is expected to go down.)
    Granted, its a 23 man roster - but I wonder if by demanding to be paid full price for their services (and they earned it) have Malkin & Crosby actually hurt their team's chances to become a dynasty in the future. Can they bring in some big time players, and will they take less money to come there like Detroit has been able to do.

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