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The aftermath of Marian Hossa's signing with the Chicago Blackhawks yesterday is more astonishing than the actual deal. Like, for example, how some believe Chicago Blackhawks management went from the smartest guys in the room to a collection of blithering, Milbury-esque dopes on free agent day; or, in Martin Havlat's(notes) case, disloyal insult artists.

First off, to state the obvious: Chicago GM Dale Tallon isn't infallible. Last summer's Brian Campbell(notes) contract ($7.14 million cap hit until 2016) has made one of the fastest defensemen in hockey immobile from a trade perspective. So there's no rubber stamping the Hossa deal just because the Blackhawks' braintrust, a.k.a. "The Men Who Saved Chicago Hockey," orchestrated it.

That said, this notion that Tallon rushed into the Marian Hossa(notes) deal with little consideration for next summer's trio of free agent headaches -- Patrick Kane(notes), Jonathan Toews(notes) and Duncan Keith(notes) are all up for restricted free agency -- is just preposterous. It's comical. It's armchair GM'ing at its worst. Yes, he'll have to work a little magic. But to claim he couldn't see the expiring contracts through the trees is just fantasy land analysis.

Coming up, the Hossa fallout, and some really startling news about Martin Havlat and from Los Angeles Kings GM Dean Lombardi.

First, on Hossa and the Blackhawks -- Take it away, the ever-dependable Alan Muir of Sports Illustrated:

Adding a player with Hossa's skill set for just $5.166 million per year (Ed. Note: TSN has it at $5.23 million) makes the Hawks a more formidable team over the short term. But the deal makes you wonder if Dale Tallon has completely lost sight of the team's future.

Don't get hung up on the duration. That's what keeps the cap hit reasonable. But even if the durable forward comes in at a decent value, this deal could come back and bite the Hawks hard next summer.

Remember, the contracts of Jonathan Toews, Patrick Kane and Duncan Keith all expire after next season, setting up Tallon for a troika of tough negotiations. Best case -- and I mean absolute pie-in-the-sky -- scenario: he gets the trio for something in the range of $15 million per year. Add that to about $36 million that's already committed to just nine players plus the likelihood that the $56.8 million salary cap will shrink significantly, and it looks like Tallon has painted himself into a very tight corner with this deal.

And yet he made the deal, saying this to the Chicago Tribune: "We took that into consideration ... The type of contract Marian has agreed to will not influence our core."

The core is the key. It's the best negotiating ploy Tallon has: Here are 5-7 outstanding hockey players who have a chance at the Stanley Cup; adjust your salary expectations accordingly. Despite initial blasts against this deal from Detroit Red Wings fans (cue Snapshots) and some bloggers, Tallon isn't signing Hossa to lose either Kane or Toews or Keith. That's insanity. Tallon made this Hossa deal knowing its implications financially, knowing its potential impact on the roster.

But more to the point: If the choice is Marian Hossa at $5.23 million on the cap for 12 years (*cough*notachance*cough*) or a fragile Martin Havlat at $5 million for six years (which is what the Minnesota Wild gave him), it's a no-brainer. Even if it means shedding someone like Dustin Byfuglien(notes) and his salary at some point. Tallon wanted the best, he got the best; and it wasn't at Campbell money.

The Hossa move is a shrewd investment, and elevates the franchise even higher than Tallon and Co. already have. From Commit 2 The Indian:

Now like Campbell, Hossa will probably be hammered at times for not living up to his huge contract by the fans and the press, but just like Campbell, I expect that the actual knowledgeable fans will appreciate that he was well worth the price paid, especially when you factor in that the Hawks didn't lose any talent in acquiring him. Both guys are veterans who have rare skill sets and make their biggest impact when it matters most. A lot of money, a lot of years, but the Hawks will be successful because of it.

Now, about Havlat, whose contract with the Wild includes a no-movement clause: We previously blogged about his bitter thoughts on leaving the Blackhawks. Today, his agent is revealing why his client was a little perturbed. From Allan Walsh's Twitter feed:

"Havlat received multi year offers from several teams...except Chicago. After 3 months of negotiating a long term contract, Chicago would not offer anything more than a 1 year deal. So much for taking care of the team MVP."

Disloyalty? Perhaps. It could be successfully argued that Havlat earned something longer with his effort this season. But what would have been fair? Three years at a high salary with a no-movement clause? The six-year deal the Wild offered him? It's hard to slam Tallon for putting the Blackhawks in an awkward situation against the cap next summer with the Hossa deal, yet argue that Havlat -- not nearly Hossa's equal, in numbers or durability -- should have been re-signed under any circumstances.

It's business. Wondering what sort of sympathy Hawks fans are having for Havlat on the day after? Second City Hockey had this:

Simply put, the Hawks acted as a business, which is exactly what they should do.  They gave the better player, the more durable player, the long-term deal they no longer felt they could trust to Marty.  Because this group under Rocky and McD has done its best to act in the classiest manner possible, I doubt this will ever get into a he-said-she-said slap fight.  The thought of Havlat rolling into the UC twice a year with a chip on his shoulder gives me nightmares, but the Hawks made the right decision.

Finally, Dean Lombardi continues to be one of the most candid general managers in sports when it comes to pulling back the curtain on negotiations. He spoke with Rich Hammond of Inside the Kings and spilled the beans on his team in the Hossa hunt:

Question: Can you go through the day, and talk about anything you might have been close to getting done?

LOMBARDI: "Obviously we went into this for wingers. Like I've said, it's one of the positives of being in our situation now, as opposed to three years ago, when we were looking for everything and signing seven guys. The No. 1 guy we targeted was Hossa. I got permission to talk to Hossa at the draft. There were three teams, us and two others. Detroit gave me permission, and we started the dialogue at that time. Detroit, if he got signed, they would get compensation. We met with his agent there, at that time, and he was interested in L.A. He said he thinks we could be the next Chicago. But he said, 'That's down the road,' and that's fair, that's realistic. He said it was important to go to a 100-point team. I said, 'I don't know if we can guarantee that, but you're the type of player we're prepared to commit to.' He was the one player we thought was a top player. I don't know that he's a 'mail carrier' type guy, but he's still a top player.

"That dialogue continued until July 1. He was throwing (contract) numbers out there, but it was very vague in terms of numbers. We talked again last night and I got the sense that this was probably going in a different direction. I said, `What would it take?' but we never really got an answer. I think he had his eye on something else already. We thought it was Boston. He told us this morning that it was probably unlikely that he would come here. It wasn't really the 12-year term that got us out of it. It never got to that point. Part of this is that you're frustrated, but the other part is that you want guys like that. I've always said you want guys who want to win first. And you look at Chicago, where they've come in the last seven drafts and where they're at. Chicago, it took six years; we're three years in. That's the process they went through, and then they broke through. We're hoping that if we break through like they did, we can compete (for players) at that level. We were prepared to talk about the cash and the 12 years."

Wow. Got all that?

Lombardi had plenty more to say about free agency, including the Kings sniffing around Mike Knuble(notes) and why they decided not to "roll the dice" on Havlat or Marian Gaborik(notes). Incredible stuff.

But again, to reiterate: Lomdardi thought Hossa "was the one player we thought was a top player."

So while the rest of the hockey world screams to the heavens about how the Blackhawks can't afford Cam Barker(notes) anymore, Dale Tallon can rest assured that he landed the most coveted player on the market.

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  1. patrickdfrom83
    1. Posted by patrickdfrom83 Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:31 pm EDT

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    Hard to imagine Hossa playing at 42 like he would be on this contract, but that cap hit is very likable.
  2. Stryker
    2. Posted by Stryker Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:33 pm EDT

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    So, are the Kings goign to sign anyone of value, or just sit on all that cap room? Make a move, please!
  3. Stan D
    3. Posted by Stan D Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:37 pm EDT

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    As a fan of the Stanley Cup Champion Pittsburgh Penguins......all I have to say about Hossa is....."Overrated!"
  4. Brad_HT
    4. Posted by Brad_HT Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:38 pm EDT

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    I was nervous at first, but I think Tallon did a great thing... Ill give him credit, as long as hossa keeps up the 40 goal seasons....
  5. ChrisW
    5. Posted by ChrisW Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:38 pm EDT

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    He won't be playing at 42. That's the point.
  6. Brad_HT
    6. Posted by Brad_HT Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:39 pm EDT

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    @drummond....
    He may be overrated, as you say, but combined with Towes, Kane, and Sharp, it makes him a much better version of overrated...
  7. Space Weed
    7. Posted by Space Weed Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:39 pm EDT

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    Hmm... I could see Burke signing Duncan Keith to an offer sheet, and go laff at Tallon for that horrendous contract for an overpaid ballerina
  8. Jake R
    8. Posted by Jake R Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:42 pm EDT

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    well if the kings did miss out on free agency, i am sure the leafs would be more than happy to make a trade with them...
  9. Aaron
    9. Posted by Aaron Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:43 pm EDT

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    So, Lombardi was the kinda-cute decoy girl to get the hottie's attention.
    Hossa's a whore.
  10. habs1rule
    10. Posted by habs1rule Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:46 pm EDT

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    How about Alexi Kovalev on a line with Anse Kopitar.. We had to let him go..Size matters here..
  11. herecomethehawks
    11. Posted by herecomethehawks Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:48 pm EDT

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    I'm very sad about losing Marty, but have to agree with Second City Hockey.
    I hope he drops the public fued. No one will win.
  12. CarltonBanks
    12. Posted by CarltonBanks Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:51 pm EDT

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    wow Stan D, great insight, thank you for gracing use with infinite knowledge
  13. PensDay_Chatter
    13. Posted by PensDay_Chatter Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:02 pm EDT

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    Ok Chicago might have got it right by picking Hossa over Havlat, most people could make that call. However to put the futures of Toews AND Kane at risk with the organization is not worth it by any means. I mean come on. Before they know it they are going to be doing everything possible to dump players on other places to clear cap room for those guys, both of whom will probably turn out to be better players than Hossa. Its just not worth the risk. They would of been better off just grabbing Gionta, Koivu, or even Cammaleri if they could of gotten him for under 6 mil. But that amount of money tied up in so few players is going to destroy them next year.
  14. Rich F.
    14. Posted by Rich F. Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:04 pm EDT

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    I've lived my entire life under the blanket of Red Wings hockey, so I apologize now if I sound biased.
    Hossa's a great regular season players, who's skill doesn't translate to the playoffs (similar to Pavel Datsyuk).
    If you're wagering your entire future on this one season, you're going to be Very disappointed in the playoffs, especially if Hossa has to play another former team, such as the wings.
    Lastly, if there's one thing the Wing's organization has taught me, it's that you need to be as loyal as possible to your current players. Offer Havlat multiple years with as much money as is fair, and if he doesn't like it, he can leave. But NEVER offer only 1 year to a loyal player.
    I promise you, your reputation as an organization will Help or Hurt you in the future.
  15. decappa
    15. Posted by decappa Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:11 pm EDT

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    thats funny habs1rule.... gomez, gionta, and camms? sorry shorty but size does matter and the habs don't have it!
  16. Almost Lewboski
    16. Posted by Almost Lewboski Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:14 pm EDT

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    Love all the experts wanking about the 12 years for Hossa. But everyone thought Holland was a genius when he gave 70+ million and 12 years to Zetterberg.
  17. whitepeople.tv
    17. Posted by whitepeople.tv Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:21 pm EDT

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    Why is everyone so dumb? The length of the contract is IRRELEVANT. Hossa's not playing for 12 years. They just add years to lower the average number. I think GM's also think these deals may be voided if they pose a problem for the salary structure down the road or in a new CBA. I do think the Hawks have handicapped themselves though. I agree Hossa was the top free agent, but you win championships with Drapers and Stuarts, Talbots and Scuderis, Byfugliens and Barkers.
  18. Burgher
    18. Posted by Burgher Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:21 pm EDT

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    My fellow Pens fans disappoint, and even sometimes, embarrass me with their comments about Hossa. Hossa did nothing but deliver for the Pens in his brief tenure with the team- all the way through to game 6 of the SCF. It is simply not credible to blame him in any way, shape or form for the Pens coming up a bit short against the Red Wings in 2008. Guys like Malkin and Fleury are better scape goat candidates, and look at the redemption they experienced in 2009! Anyhow, to call Hossa overrated is ludicrous. As this article accurately states- he was the most talented, desired FA yesterday, and the Hawks landed him....congrats to them.
  19. Patrick
    19. Posted by Patrick Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:24 pm EDT

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    So the Hawks now have a winger. But, what answer do the Hawks have at goalie now that the Bulin wall has skipped town? Huet? That's not so smart. Good luck with that.
  20. leafmatt
    20. Posted by leafmatt Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:25 pm EDT

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    Stan D: Have you Pens fans become the new version of the "annoyingly-ugly Red Wings fan" from last postseason?
    JP13: Replace Toews & Kane with Malkin & Crysby and get in the way-back machine set 1 year ago.
    Ask yourself, WWSheroD in this sit-e-ation? That's probably what Tallon will do too, except without being able to get rid of the "Whitney Cuffs" so easily.
    And you're comparing Hossa to Gionta? REALLY?
    He now makes $200,000 less than Hossa but produces MUCH WORSE PRODUCTION.
    Bree-on J-onta has only had 1 season over 60 points, only 1 season over 25 goals. He's 5'7" and plays like he's 4' even though he & Hossa are virtually the same age.
    At first crack, everyone will blame it on the Devils system keeping his numbers down, until he finds out he won't be the go-to guy on the PP like he was in NJ (nearly 1/3 of his career numbers) and Les Habitants will be cursing him with Anglo-phone slurs between periods.
  21. Am Israel Chai
    21. Posted by Am Israel Chai Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:31 pm EDT

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    Once again, the Kings tightened up on their wallet. Although it's early on, I can just hear Dino telling his fans once again that his team is not yet ready. Read between the lines of his Chicago comment. We'll probably see a couple of retreads before season start to hold us over until the year Dino gets someone out to LA. But, at that time, which ones of our youngsters, who will be older and command bigger dollars, will we loose to unloading of contracts? "Let's go Dino! Get off you A$$ and spend a few. We're tired of hearing that we are not yet worthy." I got a lot of calls from the Kings asking me to buy tickets and each time I said that when the team spends their money, so will I !!!
  22. Christopher
    22. Posted by Christopher Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:34 pm EDT

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    you look at Detroit's cap woes, Zetterberg, Datsuyk, Franzen, Holmstrom, Lidstrom with big salaries in the same situation and they don't have Hossa. Kane, Toews and Keith are young and you can invest long term, reasonable cap contracts with those guys next year as well. Also, dump a few guys like Sharp, Buff, trade a Campbell and you are in a better situation.
  23. Azulonius
    23. Posted by Azulonius Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:40 pm EDT

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    Stan D-that overrated Hossa is pretty much what carried you through the 2008 playoffs. If he could have put up the same performance this year as he did last year, no doubt you would have a different champion.
    Patrick-Pretty sure they are wingin it with huet/Crawford.
  24. marcie s
    24. Posted by marcie s Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:46 pm EDT

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    Yes, Hossa was great when he played for the Pens. And then....he sold out to go to the wings. Let's hope the chemistry is there with hossa, towes and kane. Sometimes it just doesn't click. As much as Hossa disappointed the fans of Pgh, let's wish him good luck and let the games begin.
  25. ChiTownHustle
    25. Posted by ChiTownHustle Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:48 pm EDT

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    Enough of the "giving up the future" talk. Tallon clearly stated it... we know who the "core" of this team is and this deal will no affect the "core". As Wysh said (to paraphrase), if you think Tallon was blind to the future, your nuts. The 'Hawks have players outside the only names folks outside of Chicago seem to know about that carry enough towards the cap collectively, and that are not considered part of the core, that can be moved to free up space. As for the folks saying he (Hossa) won't play until 42... yeah most likely he won't and my guess is most likely he won't be a Blackhawk player when we have to start worrying about his age. The contract structure gives Hossa less per year as he gets in to the contract, so that could help eliminate price tag concerns down the road. Sure teams will bat an eyelash but helps make it more digestible. We loved Marty, here in Chicago but honestly, I don't think it's fair to this team and it's players to pass up on a guy like Hossa when you have Havlat, although skilled, often injured. A team's goal should be to come in to a season looking to win the cup. The difference I see with the 'hawks fans versus Pens/Wings fans (based on all these posts I have been reading) is we didn't bring him in for one year and ask him to be the hero to lead us to the cup. We asked him to help contribute and assist the younger guys with lesser experience. Many of the stuff I am reading on here is Wings fans and Pens fans saying we jinxed oursleves, he isn't going to win you guys a cup becaus ehe couldn't do it for us, etc. Well thats where those fans went wrong... one guy is not going to win you a cup. And as someone else said on here when responding to calls of Hossa being overrated... with talent like Chicago has I'll take an overrated Hossa any day. I'm with you buddy... me too. I'd say let's wait until next year to see how we supposedly gave up our future. Tallon will have to work magic but geez people... an awful lot can happen in a year in terms of transactions.

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