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Thanks to the Japanese, we're now closer than ever to having a Winter Classic in Phoenix someday. Say hello to eco-friendly, resin-based, iceless skating rinks:

So the minute they finally figure out how to turn a Zamboni into a giant razor to generate ad revenue, someone decides to invent iceless ice. That's hockey luck for you.

The "ice" surfaces are manufactured by Mitsubishi plastics and are being marketed as a way to keep costs down while increasing the number of rinks in Japan, as skating booms in popularity for its athletes. Ice rinks are closing due to economic strain, and the fabricated rinks can save operators roughly $190,000 U.S. annually in both air conditioning and water bills. From Inventor Spot:

The new iceless skating rinks will be formed from 6-ft by 3-ft plastic panels, each weighing 84 lbs. and measuring just under an inch thick. A special wax is applied to the surface of the panels once they're assembled. The end result is a surface that is nearly 90% as "slippery" as real ice and can be skated on using normal, unmodified ice skates.

In the video, the skater trying out the surface indicates that it would be great for practice but that some of the more complicated figure-skating moves were better left for actual ice. Since hockey doesn't require many triple salchows, could a full three periods of puck action be held on an iceless rink? This brings up a rather philosophical question. If you have rollerblades, it's roller hockey. If you're running around on the roof of the Quick Stop with Randal and Dante, it's deck hockey or street hockey. So can it still be ice hockey if you're wearing ice skates but there's no, you know, ice?

If Al Gore had said something about the NHL having to play its games on a giant dry-erase board thanks to global warming, we probably wouldn't have fallen asleep during "An Inconvenient Truth."

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  1. btumpak
    1. Posted by btumpak Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:23 pm EDT

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    this is creepy... not the ice rink, the chinese dude's Australian accent...
  2. Wyshynski
    2. Posted by Wyshynski Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:21 pm EDT

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    @ bobby t
    You know, that struck me as a little odd, too. But then again I once saw a quite dynamic Japanese Elvis impersonator, too.
  3. Tacks
    3. Posted by Tacks Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:51 pm EDT

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    Better beef up the infirmary, there's going to be a linup for ACL/MCL reconstructive surgeries.
  4. Opiwan
    4. Posted by Opiwan Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:19 pm EDT

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    I want to know how you're going to quick-stop on this surface without totally destroying the wax/epoxy coating. I'll bet the goalies really look forward to their first wax "snow shower" while they're covering the puck...
  5. 9
    5. Posted by 9 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:22 pm EDT

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    This idea has been around in other forms for quite some time. They've sold little training sheets of a similar surface for players and skaters for years, like an "ice treadmill" deal. This is NOT for full-on hockey, no way. Think paint scraper and you get my point. "Nearly 90%" equals bad ice in Dallas in May. Light recreational skating? Maybe. For novelty set-ups for winter rinks in warm places, seen those. Somehow "resin-based" doesn't sound too eco-friendly, eh? Wonder what kinda fumes and ions and all are given off with all the metal-on-plastic friction from push-offs...wonder what the "butt-bruise factor" is at the durometer this stuff must need to be?
  6. Wyshynski
    6. Posted by Wyshynski Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:21 pm EDT

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    @ 9 --
    Good point on the "eco-friendly" front. I suppose they believe that saving the CFCs from the air conditioning somehow couterbalanced their pumping garbage into the air by making plastics. It's a stretch.
  7. James M
    7. Posted by James M Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:35 pm EDT

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    9-(Howe?) Yeah, like you, heard of this kind of surface years ago. I'm sure this is an improved version, but word had it, that it was like skating in glue. You're right, sure not for hockey.
  8. 9
    8. Posted by 9 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:22 pm EDT

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    Back in the day, sort of, when the RHI was booming and all, seemed like every other guy i talked to out here in Cali had a line on a "new" or "revolutionary" flooring gimmick for that use, too. Very few of these ideas stuck, so to speak. Or, maybe they stuck too well, actually, but still didn't do the trick for pro roller. And wheel formulas factored in there, too. As for the topic at hand, most facility owners will stick with the tried-and-true, the known quantity, etc., most of the time. And i hear there's some company in Europe doing something with reconstituted limestone (no kidding) that's similar to this idea, but all-natural and way more durable. Maybe that's the next story here...
  9. Tacks
    9. Posted by Tacks Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:51 pm EDT

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    Scientists should stick to classical inventions like the Bass-o-Matic and the Ronco food dehydrator.
  10. .................................................!
    10. Posted by .................................................! Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:44 pm EDT

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    What is the difference between "skating" on this crap without being able to quick stop, and rollerblading on a roller rink?
  11. Wyshynski
    11. Posted by Wyshynski Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:21 pm EDT

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    @ Tacks
    Bass-o-matic? I'm much more partial to them inventing something that's both a dessert topic and a floor wax.
  12. Koba
    12. Posted by Koba Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:24 pm EDT

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    and how would the puck move on this surface?
  13. chagrinfalls1979
    13. Posted by chagrinfalls1979 Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:21 pm EDT

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    There is always someone who wants something and they can't have it, so they invent a way to have something similar and then they proclaim that it is better than the original thing so they feel better about themselves and more superior. Coming from a country that just named Hello Kitty their tourism ambassador I somehow don't think this will revolutionize the hockey world. I like my ice. If they are worried about greenhouse gases from cooling units, shorten the season and have it above the Mason-Dixon Line. I was at the Winter Classic earlier this year (Poor Sabres...but I would rather have "The Future" beat us instead of Alfie a.k.a Ralphie) and outdoor games would rock my socks if they could be held consistently instead of being a marketing ploy.
    Gotta go with the Pens this year! (If the Sabres aren't in it, go Eastern Conference). Down with the geriatric Wings. May their octupi be old and shriveled.
  14. Al
    14. Posted by Al Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:31 pm EDT

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    Synthetic ice is not new. I skated on it at a hockey training facility a few years ago and it sucks. It's like trying to rollerblade on carpet. Maybe if they can reduce the friction some more it would be worth it but it will never be the same.
  15. MatthewB
    15. Posted by MatthewB Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:02 pm EDT

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    This is a great gimmick for Japan but it is completely stupid to think you could play any sort of legitimate hockey on this.
  16. 9
    16. Posted by 9 Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:22 pm EDT

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    Yes, this stuff will never equal the public school rink behind Hask's house in Big Rapids, circa 1967-68 or the groomed one over at St. Mary's, either...way before Ferris had a D-1 pucks program. Honey, where's my dentures? LOL
  17. Matt W
    17. Posted by Matt W Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:37 pm EDT

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    Lame
  18. 1/2 man 1/2 horse
    18. Posted by 1/2 man 1/2 horse Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:37 pm EDT

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    lets put another shrimp on the barbie with a side of rice
  19. HockeyKnowItAll
    19. Posted by HockeyKnowItAll Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:00 pm EDT

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    I live in Southern China across the border from Hong Kong (a little city of 12 million people called Shenzhen) and Ice Rinks are starting to pop up in all the new Malls, thank god they are REAL. There is something about the smell of a real sheet of ice that just takes me back to my childhood in northern Canada. I still remember being 5 years old and just waiting to get out of kindergarten so I could go play hockey! For some reason the smell of candle wax and other chemicals just doesn't do it for me.
  20. murph
    20. Posted by murph Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:39 pm EDT

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    how in the world would players fly down the ice full speed and stop? im sure the plastic is built for stopping on a dime when your going full speed so the question remains how would one stop if the plastic doesnt chip like in ice hockey when they stop real fast. good luck with this crapshoot of an idea....
  21. murph
    21. Posted by murph Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:39 pm EDT

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    how would one stop on a dime going full speed? im sure the plastic isnt going to chip away into a million little peices to allow players to stop on a dime or make quick cuts. laughable...
  22. D Bop
    22. Posted by D Bop Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:46 pm EDT

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    So how the hell are ya supposed to give the goalie a snow cone to the face?
  23. thomas o
    23. Posted by thomas o Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:12 pm EDT

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    I have skated for years on these rinks in North America. There is one in westwood I skated on weekly for a summer league, (Indianapolis, Indiana) and many more around the world? I skated on this type of surface in Fargo North Dakota in 1996 and I was told the Frappiers invented it several years before that. This may be refined but this is invention robbery of a Marconi nature!
  24. W.M
    24. Posted by W.M Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:23 pm EDT

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    Yay....and what's next?.....baseball "fields" of plastic turf and kitty litter infield base lanes?
    "Progress" is sometimes really such a misnomer!
  25. W.M
    25. Posted by W.M Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:23 pm EDT

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    Yay....and what's next?.....baseball "fields" of plastic turf and kitty litter infield base lanes?
    "Progress" is sometimes really such a misnomer!

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