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News traveled fast yesterday as word got out that the Pittsburgh Penguins signed Jordan Staal to a four-year, $16 million extension.

After months non-stop trade rumors involving Staal, it appears that the 20-year old center's future, for the moment, is in Pittsburgh.

But will the rumors die?

With the Staal deal being the only recent positive news in PensNation, we asked a few Penguin bloggers their opinions on the Staal deal while at the same time taking their minds off Pittsburgh's current slump.

Despite avoiding potential offer sheets he surely would have received on July 1 when he would have become a restricted free agent, Staal has increased his trade value by signing for less than what many were predicting he would have been offered. 

The deal also makes him much more attractive on the trade market. With Pittsburgh general manager Ray Shero continuing on the never-ending quest to find a suitable scoring winger (not named Marian Hossa) for Sidney Crosby, Staal is currently the Penguins' most valuable commodity, so the possibility of trading him still exists.

Here are a few thoughts from some Penguins bloggers on the deal:

Frank D, PensBurgh:

"I'm going to stick by the notion that this is a small investment that can produce a high return. It'll be interesting to see how the Pens work with him as Sid's wing and how well he comes along in that position."

Tony Ferrante, The Confluence:

"Even with Staal getting bumped up once again on the first-line winger for tonight's game, he's never demonstrated that he can play that position very well. In addition, his shot accuracy has gone completely down the tubes. Where once he was among the league leaders in that category, more times than not he completely misses the net rather than put his shot at least on goal. So in essence, Shero just paid 4 million per year for a decent defensive, penalty-killing center.  And combined with contracts already for Crosby, Malkin, Fleury, Whitney and Orpik, not to mention the remainder of Gonchar's, that's a lot of coin tied up before any wingers are brought in...."

Brian Metzer, HockeyBuzz:

"Overall, I like the signing, as it proves that Ray Shero, losing streaks aside, is sticking to his plan and not making any knee jerk reactions. He has long talked of locking up the nucleus of this team and supplementing them year to year with cost effective one- and two-year signings. That is exactly what we have seen with this transaction and it fits his plan perfectly."

Seth Rorabaugh, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette's Empty Netters:

"...this clearly doesn't bode well for those who would like to get a world-class first-line scoring winger for Sidney Crosby, including potentially Crosby himself. Given the uncertainty of how much the NHL's salary cap could rise or even fall in subsequent seasons, locking up a talent like Staal to a long-term deal obviously sucks up a significant portion of whatever cap room Shero has to work with. And when you consider the deals others like Brooks Orpik, Marc-Andre Fleury and Evgeni Malkin inked prior to this season, the team already has a lot of money accounted for."

A mixed bag of reactions, but as far as those "sign and trade" rumors, friend of Puck Daddy Lyle Richardson believes that Shero's goal was to lock up Staal long-term and not use him as trade bait. 

Will that thinking come back to bite the Penguins? Only time will tell, and at the moment Pittsburgh is mired in a deep slump. The pressure is on Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin to produce; a scene quite different a year ago when the lineup was littered with contributors like Ryan Malone, Marian Hossa and Sergei Gonchar

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  1. RC
    1. Posted by RC Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:59 pm EDT

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    Gee...I wonder what happened to all those people who suddenly thought Miro Satan would become a great player again after being exposed to Sid?
    Jokes
  2. Jon A
    2. Posted by Jon A Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:11 pm EDT

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    Overrated, overpaid. Story of his life.
  3. dying alive
    3. Posted by dying alive Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:47 pm EDT

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    Not to keep beating a horse that's been dead for ages, but our line-up was not "littered" with Marian Hossa last year. He played something like nine total regular season games and was not even on the team at this point last season.
    The Pens are definitely slumping and the losses of Malone and Gonchar in particular have had a profound effect, but the difference maker is not Hossa.
  4. dying alive
    4. Posted by dying alive Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:47 pm EDT

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    And on the topic at hand, I am in wait-and-see mode on Staal, as are most Pens fans who aren't haters or fanboys/fangirls. I like him and I think he has quite a lot of potential. While showing bouts of inconsistency he has also shown flashes of brilliance. The inconsistency would worry me a lot more if he was, say, 27 years old instead of 20. He's also proven to be one of the Pens' biggest assets and most consistent post-season performers.
  5. elevenmil
    5. Posted by elevenmil Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:20 pm EDT

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    who would pay 4 million a year for a 3rd line center?...shero has made good moves since coming over here, I wouldn't criticize this one. He's just too young and too talented to watch him slide away and develop into a great two way player. Atleast we get to here for years to come continued commentary about one helluva long reach with the pickle stabber!
    BTW - Satan = joke city.
  6. Daniel C
    6. Posted by Daniel C Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:39 pm EDT

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    Wysh, a year ago the Pens did not have Hossa. He came in at the tail end of the season. No Gonchar is hurting, but the real problem is Therrien. He shuffles the lines to much, and even the players admit it's hard to gel when they have to play with different people every night. He's hurting the team's chemistry; have you ever noticed how even when they win they get outshot? How they can never get the puck out of their zone? The Penguins' system isn't working, but Therrien isn't making any adjustments other than shuffling the lines. He needs to go.
  7. dying alive
    7. Posted by dying alive Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:47 pm EDT

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    And at the risk of serial posting/serial whining, your title is a little misleading. It's extremely likely that the only reason Staal was playing Sid's wing last night was because the injuries to Fedotenko and Dupuis caused a lot of line-up shuffling (not that Therrien isn't good for a lot of that anyway).
    Come to think of it, they may actually want to keep him there for a while. Loss notwithstanding, Staal played one of his better games of the season last night.
  8. Daniel C
    8. Posted by Daniel C Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:39 pm EDT

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    And by the way, everyone can shut your cake holes about Staal being a third line center. If you had Malkin and Crosby as your first two centers, even someone like Datsyuk might be third line center, but does that mean he deserves less than $4 mil a year?
  9. Jon A
    9. Posted by Jon A Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:11 pm EDT

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    dying alive:
    Hossa is a big part of the difference maker between the way Pens played in the playoffs and the way they are playing now. He really energized your team when he came and when he got healthy after his knee issue. True that you can't really put a number on your regular season success with him since he spent so little time there, but he is a big part of the reason Pens seem to be underacheiving this year.
  10. Leahy
    10. Posted by Leahy Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:27 pm EDT

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    @all: the point of adding Hossa's name in the lineup was the point of how the roster is missing players of that caliber outside of Sid/Malkin.
    I know Hossa wasn't added until the deadline
  11. Jon A
    11. Posted by Jon A Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:11 pm EDT

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    @ Daniel C
    That argument is irrelevant seeing as no team would need a guy like Datsyuk to be a 3rd line center given that GM's have a salary cap to deal with. I don't care if he's a 3rd line center or if he's the go-to guy on the top scoring line, he's not worth $4M a year. Shero let a 20-year-old kid's agent bend him over and give it to him in the @ss as far as this contract goes. He's a sucker for giving Staal this much money at this point and level in his career.
  12. Wyshynski
    12. Posted by Wyshynski Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:21 pm EDT

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    @ dying alive --
    I wrote the headline, and I can see what you mean. But it was written as a "this or that" rather than a "this, and now that." If this or that makes any sense.
  13. eyebleaf
    13. Posted by eyebleaf Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:57 pm EDT

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    hopefully it turns out to be a bargain for the penguins fans.
  14. j_n_16
    14. Posted by j_n_16 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:45 pm EDT

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    Anybody who thinks that Staal will never again produce the numbers from his rookie season need to take a deep breath and think about this: he's 20 years old. There's no way that a talented kid like this will only score 20 goals once, not to mention the fact that in only his second (and final year) of junior, he produced at a point-per-game. When he learns to translate that to the NHL, I think you'll all agree that 4 mil is a pretty good deal for 82 points.
  15. Munkcy
    15. Posted by Munkcy Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:21 pm EDT

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    The Penguins are currently just 1 point from the 8th spot in the Eastern Conference. Are they in any real danger of missing the playoffs?
  16. Hans Gruber
    16. Posted by Hans Gruber Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:58 pm EDT

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    By talking to Pens Bloggers, did you include yourself in the discussion?
  17. Geoffrey S
    17. Posted by Geoffrey S Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:37 pm EDT

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    The Confluence people would probably be even more upset if they understood statistics enough to realize that missing the net completely most of the time is actually *good* for your shooting percentage; only shots stopped by the goalie hurt your percentage.
  18. books
    18. Posted by books Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:22 pm EDT

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    Besides that big rookie season Staal would have to be considered a disapointment thus far. Maybe the contract will help him settle down, maybe he wont be able to live up to the pressure...we'll have to wait and see. In a couple years this could look like a real steal.
    Signing him does mean one less distraction and expresses the Pens commitment to the kid. I'm not sure if this is a good signing but it's hard to give up on somebody with so much potential when they are so young. My feeling is that this will turn out to be a wise choice...time will tell of course.
  19. Stephanie
    19. Posted by Stephanie Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:41 pm EDT

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    Here's a deal that might work:
    Atlanta gets Staal and a mid round draft pick
    Pittsburgh gets Slava Kozlov and Niclas Havelid OR Mathieu Schneider
    Atlanta needs a young center to put on the first or second line, and Pittsburgh gets a winger for Crosby and a defenseman for the PP.
  20. elevenmil
    20. Posted by elevenmil Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:20 pm EDT

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    John, A
    He's 20. Next year when contract kicks in, it'll probably look like you think now...overpayjob. Down the road, this'll be a bargain deal. Book it. Regardless of what people think about the money given to him, he probably had a lot more coming his was if he went RFA.
  21. deleware m. jones
    21. Posted by deleware m. jones Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:45 pm EDT

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    Ok, this is crazy, i mean really crazy, shot in the dark, put me into a mental institution crazy, but still hear me out...
    The Pens should trade for Andy Hilbert to play wing on Crosby's line. Yea, yea I know hes like a 3rd/4th line guy on the Islanders but rewind to 2005'06 when Hilbert was with the pens for a short time and riding shotgun on Crosby's line. Hilbert was almost a point-per-game guy and had a nice chemistry with Sid. I think Hilbert is has an underrated offensive upside that would blossom in the right scenario as seen in 05-06. Not to mention Hilbert makes 700k, seems like a bargain and Hilbert has also learned how to play at both ends of the rink under Ted Nolan.
    Someone get me Ray Shero's cell number so I can give him this idea. I don't even think a roster player would have to be given up to get Hilbert, maybe a minor leaguer and a pick? Its worth a shot...
  22. Wyshynski
    22. Posted by Wyshynski Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:21 pm EDT

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    @ Andrew V --
    Are you talking to me or Leahy, who wrote the post? If it's Leahy, he is a Pens blogger. If it's me, then I guess today I'm a Penguins homer instead of a Penguins hater. I'll adjust accordingly.
  23. Leahy
    23. Posted by Leahy Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:27 pm EDT

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    @Andrew V: No, I left it to them, but if you want my opinion as a Pens fan, I think it's too early to tell on the deal. Teams are paying guys on potential and not production these days. I don't like giving up on 20 year old players who have shown they can produce. I think Staal's rookie season is giving a skewed perception. Maybe he really is just a shutdown, 3rd line center who can pot 15-20 goals a year and not the 29-goal scorer we saw in 06-07.
    I don't rule out Staal being traded at any point of his new deal.
  24. Maraldo
    24. Posted by Maraldo Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:34 pm EDT

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    (Other than Hossa obv.) I think the only loss that really hurt the team in FA this offseason was Malone, for his grit, leadership, ability to score in the dirty areas/battle in front, and the guy had some skill and was willing to take on defenders, no wingers seem confident doing that this year. I think they were/are hoping Staal can fill those shoes if he stays (I think he will). As long as Crosby and Malkin are performing at a high enough level people will always have that 'win now' mentality with the pens, when the realistic thought is, this year's team just isn't going to be able to duplicate what last years did. All of these guys are young and have time to win. Is it realistic to expect them to be a dynasty and win several cups? Eh doubt it, just don't see any team doing that in the new NHL with FA and the cap. Could this group of players win 1 or 2, that is a def. possibility, but they have some growing up to do. I don't know if they need those high profile wingers like a Hossa, but they just need some capable/competent wingers.
  25. Hans Gruber
    25. Posted by Hans Gruber Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:58 pm EDT

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    He only got that much coin because of his last name. Due to my stupid location I get to watch many Hurricanes games and can't really understand why his older bro got the contract he received. He plays hard one of every three games.
    Wysh, you know darn well that you have a 44 Rob Brown Penguins jersey hanging in your man cave. You only jumped on the Devils bandwagon because you ditched the team much like most other Pens fans in the early 2000's. You probably have a customized 87 black and yellow Snuggie on order.

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