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MONTREAL -- Randy Sexton, acting general manager of the Florida Panthers, held court after the 2009 NHL Draft was completed and revealed the backstory of the Jay Bouwmeester trade to the Calgary Flames this morning. 

The Panthers had been working on the trade for several days, and yesterday's trade of Chris Pronger(notes) to the Philadelphia Flyers seemed to have altered their plans in several ways. Two keys for the trade, which saw the negotiating rights to Bouwmeester go to Calgary for the rights to Jordan Leopold(notes) and a third-round pick (67th overall), which the Panthers used to draft right winger Josh Birkholz.

1. Sexton said that an unconditional third-round pick was "the best anyone's gotten for a player that was going to go UFA," so that plus a free-agent player is a win for the Panthers ...

2. ... Especially since the Pronger trade put the Panthers is a very weak negotiating position with other teams; not only because the Flyers were one of Jay Bouwmeester's(notes) suitors, but because the trade reset the market. 

Coming up, Sexton's take on the trade and the rest of the trades that didn't happen at this draft.

Sexton spoke about the Bouwmeester trade, and how it went down:

"For our organization, it's a critical day, right? When it became apparent that we couldn't sign Jay, we wanted to get something of value. We worked very hard over the last two weeks to put together a deal. Things were moving quite well. Yesterday, everything got blogged down. (Ed. Note: Actual quote, and hilarious.) Teams were in on every deal. They were in on Lecavalier. They were in on Hossa. (Ed. Note: Huh?) They were in on Pronger and all of it. We were well along the way with three teams but they were in these other deals.

"When the Flyers did their deal for Pronger, it kind of knocked them out of the box. We went back last night, we regrouped, put together another game plan, came in today, talked to three or four teams and Darryl and I shook on a deal at 9 or 9:30."

Was there ever a chance the Panthers were going to sign Bouwmeester?

"We agreed after the season to take two or three weeks, try to decompress after the season. I chatted a couple of times with his agent, and at that point it was clear that they wanted the opportunity to exercise his free agency rights. About 18 months ago, they gave us a list of teams that they were interested in. Calgary was right at the very top. He's an Alberta boy. Darryl's an aggressive guy. He's clever. He's creative. I think he'll find a way to get it done."

Sexton said that when the team "agreed we weren't going to trade him," that list of teams was "stuck in the bottom drawer."

Is the package from the Flames what the Panthers were hoping for?

"We felt all along there was no free looks. We wanted to have something of value for the quality player he is. We tried hard to get a second round pick but no one was willing to pony up. We settled on a third and we had a deal with several teams on a third. What varied was the different amount of compensation if he signed. When everything went sideways last night, we had to adjust. You have to have more than one horse in the race to leverage out something."

"We like Leopold too. We're going to try and sign him. We think he's a mobile, puck-moving guy and a good replacement for Jay."

Things changed for the Panthers when Philly made its Pronger trade.

"When Philly did the Pronger deal, it adjusted two things: It adjusted a key player for us, and it adjusted values. All the other teams were at lower values. That's why you didn't see a lot of guys move. Bryan [Murray] felt strongly that Heatley's a quality player, but the offers he was getting didn't meet what he felt. The Pronger deal set a certain expectation about the value that should be derived."

In retrospect, would this trade have been better at the deadline?

"It's always easy to look in the rearview mirror. We were a long way down the road at the trade deadline, but we didn't feel we had the value required to trade Jay. What's more, we were right in the thick of the playoff race. Our coaches, our players and our fans wanted us to keep him. We thought it was important for the franchise to make the playoffs. Unfortunately, we lose in the second tie-breacker and we lose Bouw. That's life."

Leopold played with Keith Ballard(notes) at the University of Minnesota. Sexton said he needs to sell Leopold on the merits of South Florida. He's a red-blooded male. Shouldn't be too hard.

From the Panthers on Twitter: "Leopold just said he was open to anything and him and Ballard actually played golf on Wednesday and joked about playing on the same team.

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  1. Free Candy
    1. Posted by Free Candy Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:48 pm EDT

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    Get the Panthers out of Florida.
  2. Unnamed
    2. Posted by Unnamed Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:29 pm EDT

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    "1. Sexton said that an unconditional third-round pick was "the best anyone's gotten for a player that was going to go UFA," so that plus a free-agent player is a win for the Panthers ..." Flyers gave Nashville a 1st round pick (their own back from the Forsberg deal) in exchange for Hartnell and Timonen's rights.
  3. rodriguez597745@...
    3. Posted by rodriguez597745@... Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:37 pm EDT

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    This is my last year being faithful to the panthers. I'm tired of not making the playoffs or constantly losing star players to other teams for nothing (Luongo, Jokinen, Bouw, etc). Unfortunately, we have not been so lucky in our draft picks except for Bouw and now he is gone (ex, Nathan Horton, Olesv, etc). I'm tired of this nonsense.
  4. Kelley
    4. Posted by Kelley Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:41 pm EDT

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    Lay off the haughtiness. At least they didn't win the cup by going bankrupt. Your team and Buttman's support have given even the lowly Panthers and, dare I say, Coyotes, franchises hope.
  5. Yaozer
    5. Posted by Yaozer Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:56 pm EDT

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    yeah but the flyers knew that they would eventually sign those 2 as they were allowed to negotiate a deal with each player prior to the trade. in this deal, no one would give up more than a 3rd round pick because bouwmeester's camp seems pretty set on testing the FA market and wouldn't allow negotiation talks before having his rights traded away. if he did, and if the flyers knew they could sign him, lupul would've been included in the deal to the panthers (not just to sweeten the deal, but to make room under the existing salary cap) as well as something much higher than a 3rd.
  6. PhillyAreaRealtor
    6. Posted by PhillyAreaRealtor Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:57 pm EDT

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    WTF no write up about the biggest deal at the draft?
    I this devils fan blogger cant get himself to write anything other than negative or neutral post about the flyers.
    GREAT MOVE BY THE FLYERS!
  7. Yaozer
    7. Posted by Yaozer Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:09 pm EDT

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    i'm a flyers lifer and i must say, i'm not believing it's a GREAT MOVE by the flyers. we gave up A LOT... lupul we can replace as we are way deep up front ,but sbisa and 2 firsts?? we better win a cup and soon for this to be a GREAT MOVE as pronger is 34, soon to be 35. look at this team and what we possess up front... most of them thru the draft. but we did solidify our D, which is completely necessary but dammit, we gave up too much for pronger.
  8. Space Weed
    8. Posted by Space Weed Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:09 pm EDT

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    @ Free Candy
    Florida has accomplished something. it should be move Atlanta, they've become a bigger joke than the Islanders, their star player hates the fans (the announcer, the team and Don Waddel), and noone wants to sign there because they're going nowhere (Evander Kane's gonna get traded for someone useless, see Braydon Coburn). Plus they're probably gonna squander their 1st overall pick they get next year (Islanders are better with Tavares, Lightning can improve with Hedman on the squad) due to incompetent general managment (see Patrik Stefan, the only player capable of missing an empty net point blank with noone there)
  9. Wyshynski
    9. Posted by Wyshynski Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:29 pm EDT

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    @ Orange and Black --
    We wrote about the Pronger thing in the live blog last night and again today in the Selanne post. Read more carefully.
  10. Andrew
    10. Posted by Andrew Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:34 pm EDT

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    #1. In case you didn't bother to count, that's TWO players. Try harder at reading comprehension plz
  11. Runnin up on ya !
    11. Posted by Runnin up on ya ! Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:39 pm EDT

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    So Boumeester is going to test the market anyway (most likely signing somewhere else). Did Calgary really just trade a 3rd round pick for nothing. It's not a salary dump situation because Leopold is a UFA anyway. Maybe an i'll scratch your back if you scratch mine later since Calgary's cap pressed and Florida's not? Gotta be more to this.
  12. 5 4 fighting
    12. Posted by 5 4 fighting Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:50 pm EDT

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    "Get the Panthers out of Florida" and this comes form the flightless ones that almost lost a franchise due to a lack of fan support.Funny
  13. i4ni
    13. Posted by i4ni Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:58 pm EDT

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    Yaozer, good point and honestly I can't say that the Flyers made out better short term, let along long term. Sbisa is NHL-ready and while he might not be as capable of Pronger in terms of physicality, he's by far from useless. If the Flyers don't win a Cup within the next two years, this trade might be considered a flop. All the Flyers need now is to play disciplined and figure out their goalie situation. Teams that were stacked on D and had mediocre golatending and high scoring forwards didn't mean those teams were guaranteed a Cup on a yearly basis. The Wings are an example of that this year, as is Boston although I'd argue Boston had the better goaltending.
  14. Polski Canuck
    14. Posted by Polski Canuck Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:25 pm EDT

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    I feel sorry for Panthers fans. First Luongo, then Jokinen, and now Jay-Bo.
    hockeystorm.blogspot.com
  15. FlyersDiva
    15. Posted by FlyersDiva Sat Jun 27, 2009 5:29 pm EDT

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    I like the Flyers/Pronger deal for a few reasons, yeah they gave up a little to much for the deal, but you would have to think for them to make that deal that they have already talked about signing a 1 or 2 year extension to Pronger's existing contract. I personally always thought Sbisa was a bit overrated, sure he did an okay job filling in as a rookie, but he didn't show anything special like a Parent has. Many Flyers fans will be happy to be rid of Lupul, his salary was already high and about to increase even more. He also tends to score most of his goals in games the team already has a big lead in. Plus getting rid of Lupul makes more room for Giroux to get even more ice time.
    The move also sends a message to the team that they're not going to take the partying BS anymore. They've already gotten rid of Eager and Upshall who were the original ringleaders of the party crew, this move just gets rid of another problem player who is more worried about what's going on off the ice then on it. I'll miss the draft picks more then I'll miss those players.
    I do like the deal because one of the bigger problems the Flyers had with other teams was the team's happily skating over the blue line without a care in the world, with Pronger on the D now, hopefully teams won't be so anxious to cross that blue line with the puck.
  16. albauer2005
    16. Posted by albauer2005 Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:05 pm EDT

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    Phillies a big enough city that Pronger should be able to do what he does on off days without the Mrs. finding out. A heck of a hockey player but a losy human being. Don't worry about a contract extension for this tool. He doesn't honour them anyway. Get ready for a good year. Then he's gonna screw ya over. Enjoy.
  17. 5 4 fighting
    17. Posted by 5 4 fighting Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:15 pm EDT

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    Pronger can't hit what he can't catch up to- getting old in the tooth from what I have seen the last two years. He will probably spend just as much time in the PB as he will on the ice.
  18. wsscarlett
    18. Posted by wsscarlett Sat Jun 27, 2009 6:36 pm EDT

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    Luongo and Jokinen were both traded and brought back decent returns.Jay was not going to sign with them again.Martin listened to the fans and held onto him at the trade deadline.Whose fault is it again? Martin listened to the same people who are now angry that they lost JB for nothing.Can't have it both ways.
  19. hockeynut
    19. Posted by hockeynut Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:26 pm EDT

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    Panther fans better hope this team is SOLD. Otherwise, they can keep watching a cellar dweller for many more years. These owners are not committed to winning.
  20. Russ Cargill
    20. Posted by Russ Cargill Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:35 pm EDT

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    Though...the panthers will get the opportunity to sign leopold for chump change if they so choose. Has the guy ever played a full season? (in the NHL?!?) It's not a replacement but at least they got something.
  21. Brian
    21. Posted by Brian Sat Jun 27, 2009 7:54 pm EDT

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    "Get the Panthers out of Florida. "
    You mean the hockey team? Or the actual animals?
  22. MaryannishotterthanGinger
    22. Posted by MaryannishotterthanGinger Sat Jun 27, 2009 10:30 pm EDT

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    Yo Albauer2005: The city is called PHILLY. The baseball team are the PHILLIES. Do not refer to the city as PHILLIES if you want to sound less than retarded.
  23. KovyFan
    23. Posted by KovyFan Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:13 pm EDT

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    @ :/
    You know what, all of you shoud shut the hell up about Atlanta, we have passionate fans and solid player/prospects and in a couple of years, well be raping all you straight up in the a**. And for your info, all the players like it in Atlanta, and Kovalchuk has stated that he wants to stay, so all this Puck Daddy nonsence of using ATL as a scrapegoat while knowing NOTHING about the team, is just UNPROFESSIONAL
  24. i4ni
    24. Posted by i4ni Sat Jun 27, 2009 11:45 pm EDT

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    KovyFan, umm, nice "comments", but passionate fans do not equate to a winning team. Islanders fans are passionate, but their team doesn't exactly play with the same passion their fans have. After this years draft, most of the 30 teams in the NHL have solid prospects, but the idea is to win now and stay competitive for years to come. Incompetent management controls that realm.
  25. Kanay D
    25. Posted by Kanay D Sun Jun 28, 2009 12:32 am EDT

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    Yo 21 Brian, capital P indicates the team while lower case p indicates the animal. Go back to school and learn some grammar. And to all the people bashing the Flyers trade look at it this way- that team's major hole was they needed a body moving D man. They got one. Yes they gave up some picks but 1) draft picks are never guaranteed aces, and 2) they were lower picks. The players they gave up were a kid who played 39 games in the NHL and sat on the bench a bit (and most likely wouldn't have even made the team if circumstances with injuries and cap were different), and a lazy streaky player who, IMO, infected the rest of the team with his partying ways. There is also still plenty of time to make future trades (Briere anyone?) to teams looking for an offensive boost for draft picks. Homer has made some questionable moves recently but getting Chris Pronger is F*ing genius. Ask yourself this, if you had to play against Pronger and Emery, would *YOU* want to be in front of the Flyers net? And if Pronger is so old and on his way out then why are fans in the west glad he's in the east now? I foresee another parade down Broad St next June.

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