Mon Mar 23, 2009 2:24 pm EDT
The Detroit Red Wings obviously have bigger fish to fry these days, but Crain's has some great coverage today of a potentially franchise-altering decision looming this summer for the Wings ownership regarding Joe Louis Arena: Mike Ilitch has "until June 30 to tell Detroit if he will modernize the 30-year-old, city-owned arena or construct a new venue that likely would cost $200 million to $300 million."
Yes, in an economy where everyone but the pawn shops needs a bailout and even NFL teams could be bleeding dollars in the coming years.
The Joe Louis lease expires July 1, 2010, but the Ilitch family has to declare its intentions this summer. Their decision is one steeped in the political mess that is Detroit, which the Crain's story spells out better than we ever could.
But the two most intriguing factors at play in potentially leaving the Joe: What the city gains and loses if the Wings move to a new arena, and how the Ilitch family would finance such a venture when it's hard to borrow money to buy a Mazda let alone an 18,000 seat hockey arena.
On the financing front, the current economic climate makes the credit needed for an arena project tough to come by. The Wings could ask for an extension on their decision; or they could do this, according to Crain's:
One of them is financing a new stadium through a combination of private money from the Ilitches and taxpayer money through an extension of local hotel and car-rental taxes - the formula that financed Comerica Park [where the Detroit Tigers play].
A new stadium offers the team more revenue from additional suites and corporate sponsorships. Debt financing by the team is iffy at best and has hampered stadium projects elsewhere in the country.
As popular as the Wings are, the use of any tax money -- sales or otherwise -- on a stadium project in stimulus times is going to be a tough sell.
What about a new lease for a new stadium? As Crain's points, out, Detroit could start charging for police and landscaping services (currently provided for free), and could collect property taxes beyond the current cap of $252,000 annually. But the city would risk losing ticket, concession and suites surcharges depending on where the financing comes from.
Then again, if the Red Wings renew the lease and renovate the Joe, according to Crain's "the city immediately loses the ticket taxes and in five years loses the surcharge on concessions and suites." So maybe a new arena would be in Detroit's best interest.
The two Crain's stories -- about the lease decisions and about the future of the Joe if the Wings leave -- come highly recommended for those who are fascinated by how these arena deals come about.
For example: Would there be a chance in hell this year that Prudential Financial Inc., would but the naming rights to the New Jersey Devils' arena for $105.3 million over 20 years?
Speaking of the Devils, a question for the Wings fans who read the blog. The contention in Jersey was always that an antiquated arena contributed to the team's inconsistent (and usually underwhelming) attendance.
While most of the talk about empty seats in Detroit comes back to "it's the economy, stupid," would a new, state-of-the-art arena have an impact? In other words: Does the Joe contribute, at all, to some of the team's attendance issues?
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parking is easy and all the vendors are willing to go out of their way to help you. the staff is first rate all the time.
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THE JOE HAS TO GO!!!! That place is so outdated. If you have a few beers and go to use the bathroom you can count on missing at least the first five minutes of the following period. After going to a few other arenas then coming back to the Joe it really reminds you where you are…. A forgotten, crappy, outdated, dark and drab, ran-down city. I guess in that sentiment it resembles Detroit.
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Crude business technique, but it gets the job done.
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We'd all rather save up for post-season tickets than watch a Detroit-Phoenix or Detroit-Minnesota game that, for all intents and purposes, is just one of 41 games we could see. Spend money on essentials, or watching Detroit play a rather uninteresting opponent? I think I'll use that dough on something else. Besides - you can always watch the Wings on FSN Detroit, and those broadcasts rule (thanks to Ken Daniels and Mickey Redmond).
Yes, the Joe sucks. But not many people can afford anything in Detroit. It's just gotten to point where things are so bad in the D that no one wants to pay that much money when they have other things to worry about. Trust me, all the Wings fans I know hate the Joe, but we went anyway - it was the Wings, for Stevie Y's sake! Why not go? We just can't afford to do that 1-2 times a month, or even 1-2 times a season now. I only went to one game this season because they had an offer of 2 tickets, 2 hot dogs, and 2 pops for $44. Otherwise, it's expensive as hell.
Build an arena, lease the Joe for longer...who cares. It won't mean anything unless you can draw people to the arena without burning holes in their wallets.
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The thing with the Joe is that it's got a sort of aura to it that baseball fields sometime have. Weird because the Olympia is where the hallowed greats played and all, but the Joe sort of has a sort of personality to it. Would that personality carry over to a new building? Maybe. You can throw an octupus onto any rink, except of course Wrigley.
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Pure NHL anti-relocation win.
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Doubt it would work with the Wings though.Original 6,loyal fanbase.Everyone and their councilman's dog knows they're not going anywhere.As much as an idiot as he is I think Bettman would finance the thing himself if by some increidbly remote chance they even mentioned a city other then Detroit.
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Pretty soon, you'll be able to buy a house and a Ford Focus for less than it costs to get a room at the Super 8 and a rental.
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@ Malkintent: haha good point except for the problem is Ilitch is a hard-working, responsible American who has worked hard and smart to get where he is today. Not a snowball's chance in Jamaica that Obama will bail out his @ss.
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Point in case: Wysh, would you bring your kid out for a fun day in Newark??
And where's your AMERICAN PRIDE!!!(hurr) Mazda over Ford in an article about Motorcity
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pretty soon, you'll be able to buy a house and a ford focus for less than it costs to get a room at the super 8 and a rental.
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