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"I don't know that the league has really figured out a way to leverage the Olympic platform." -- NHL COO John Collins

No, the Olympics haven't transformed casual sports fans into hockey fanatics. Which is why there's been serious talk about the NHL opting out of the Winter Games after the 2010 Olympics in Vancouver.

But extracting the NHL from the Winter Olympics, to which it has provided talent since 1998, is a messy proposition. Fans have witnessed how good the hockey is when you have de facto all-star teams, divided by geography and heritage, defending their honor for a medal. The fantasy line combinations, the thrilling skill on display, the incredible physical play (kidding, of course) ... it may not be worth shutting down the NHL regular season every four years, but it's damn close.

So perhaps the only way to wean us off this hockey crack-rock is to replace it with something comparable, if completely lacking in relatable prestige: An NHL/NHLPA World Cup tournament that wouldn't interrupt the season but would allow players an international stage. From David Goetzl of Media Daily News:

Collins reiterated suggestions that in lieu of the Olympics, the league and its players' union might instead opt for a World Cup every four years, which would be co-owned by the two.

A World Cup would take place in the fall before the season began. The Olympics start in the middle of the season, which causes the league to shut down for multiple weeks. Both Bettman and the head of the union, John Kelly, confirmed that discussions were ongoing.

There are some serious challenges in swapping a World Cup for the Olympics; but there are also palpable benefits for the NHL. Like, for example, the way the Winter Olympics can create new hockey stars even without the NHL's participation.

Let's start with the most obvious challenge: Good luck telling Alexander Ovechkin that he can't represent Russia during the 2014 Games in Sochi. As he told us earlier this season, he wants to play there, and it's hard to imagine a Russian player in the NHL that wouldn't.

The fact is that there's an enormous amount of national pride for many European players in Olympic participation, and it will be difficult for the NHL to close the door on that once again. Perhaps the NHL can make one-time exemptions for younger players, even at the absurd risk of injury and reducing the NHL to an MLS-level surrogate for more important international tournaments.

But then that wouldn't exactly be a discontinuation of participation, would it?

No, the NHL would have to quit cold turkey and attempt to turn its World Cup into an international sensation and (in theory) a thrilling kick-off to the season. It can keep the revenues, promote the product anyway it sees fit and bring the best players in the world to different parts of the globe to sell the League. You think Prague was jacked up for the Tampa Bay Lightning and New York Rangers? How about a game featuring the Czech Republic all-stars?

The World Cup could work, although the television challenge in the U.S. is daunting. From Media Daily News:

It's uncertain what impact the NHL dropping the Olympics would have on negotiations by NBC, ESPN and Fox to acquire rights to future Games--although probably slim to none. With figure skating, speed skating and snowboarding taking center stage in NBC coverage recently, hockey has been essentially relegated to a much lower tier.

Hockey may be a second-tier sport in the Olympics, but it's still bigger than ... well, the biathlon, right? So when the Winter Olympics begin, will anyone care about the NHL? Alan Adams of AOL Sports wondered the same thing:

It's a known fact that sports enthusiasts get glued to the tube when the Olympic Games are on. People like best-on-best competitions. If they will watch Olympic sailing and the men's and women's marathons - as they did in droves last summer - they will watch anything.

It is also been proven that the American couch potato, suffering a food-induced coma from eating chicken wings and fries, will sprawl on the sofa and watch a sacred cow participate in the Olympic Games, especially if Bessie is wearing the Stars and Stripes.

In other words, no one south of the Canada-United States border is going to pay any attention to the NHL while the Olympic Games are underway. Might as well be part of the biggest sporting event in the world than compete against it.

This theory might hold up if not for the fact that the Olympics haven't benefitted the NHL in any measurable way. And even if more fans do pay more attention to Olympic hockey than the NHL during the Games, it could end up being more beneficial to the League than the current model. 

For example, Peter Forsberg was a superstar before he played a single minute in the NHL.

His shootout goal in 1994 against Team Canada goalie Corey Hirsch, on a move "borrowed" from countryman Kent Nilsson, gave Sweden its first Winter Olympic men's ice hockey gold medal in Lillehammer and landed him on a postage stamp.

His gravitas followed him to the NHL and the Quebec Nordiques, whose general manager compared Forsberg to Michael Jordan and Larry Bird. He was an instant legend; thanks in no small part to his Olympic glory, which came without a flood of NHL stars in the tournament.

The point is that stripped away of the massive and familiar star power, new legends can be born in the Winter Olympics. Can you imagine some lights-out goalie leading his team into medal contention, and then joining the NHL club that owns his rights for a thrilling run to the postseason? Oh, that's right, of course you can: His name was Sean Burke, and like Forsberg he was already a burgeoning star after the 1988 Games, before he joined the New Jersey Devils for their historic 1988 playoff run. 

The Olympics themselves might not boost the NHL's profile; but they can boost the profile of future NHL players, catapulting them into the spotlight for the most important stretch of the League's regular season. That's more important than a few extra eyes on Team Canada's all stars every four years.

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  1. N. Y. NIGHTMARE
    1. Posted by N. Y. NIGHTMARE Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:06 pm EDT

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    thats a great pic of Hank! nice find wysh.
    is it 5:00 yet???
  2. carl_vs_mastershake
    2. Posted by carl_vs_mastershake Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:18 pm EDT

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    August would be a great month for hockey tournaments. It would give me something to watch besides bikinis.
  3. Al S.
    3. Posted by Al S. Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:51 pm EDT

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but on and off, and sometimes with a different name, we've had one of these World Cups before, no? I mean, I still remember 1996 as the only year ever I have liked Mike Richter. And besides that, Claude getting traded for Steve Thomas, and the Devils not making the playoffs in 1996 are the only memories I have of 1996. Not just hockey memories. Memories.
    The NHL should schedule this for right after the Summer Olympics in 2012. Think about it. The world is still on an Olympic high, NBC wants a ratings carryover, etc., so the NHL gives the starving public a hockey clash on the world stage. Perfect timing. Heck, hold the tournament in Great Britain. They've got some ice rinks and the Irish even have one. You could even work with the IIHF to have qualifying tournaments throughout 2011 with all the little rinky dink teams in lower division I, in division II, and in division III, like in soccer, to get some local interest worked up, and who knows, maybe by some miracle a team like Mexico would make the final rounds, which is where all the auto-berth good teams would be waiting, like the US, Canada, Russia, etc.
    As for the Olympics, here's my problem. I really like the idea of college kids and not dream teams playing in the Olympics- it made 1980 so much more special. At the same time, it's going to be hard for the NHL to compete against the Olympics if they aren't there. Considering I want to watch college kids in the Olympics, it's no contest as to whether I'd be watching the Olympics or a February hockey game. So that would be tricky to figure out. I don't remember how 1994 worked in regards to NHL versus the Olympics on TV. I try to block out a lot of 1994 hockey related memories.
  4. Adam Jones
    4. Posted by Adam Jones Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:45 pm EDT

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    Step 1: International Hockey
    Step 2:
    Step 3: Profit.
  5. big audio
    5. Posted by big audio Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:04 pm EDT

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    The Olympics should return to the amateur athletes. Having professionals compete turns the Olympics into something different. The NHL will never be any bigger in the US than it is today. That is the sad truth. And everything Bettman and his fellow loonies do to try and change that fact will ultimately fail. Keep the professionals out of the Olympics. The idea of a world cup sort of tournament for the professionals sounds much better.
  6. The KBBL Party Penguin
    6. Posted by The KBBL Party Penguin Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:04 pm EDT

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    "Let's start with the most obvious challenge: Good luck telling Alexander Ovechkin that he can't represent Russia during the 2014 Games in Sochi."
    And you thought the Russians were pissed about the lack of a decent transfer agreement...
  7. Rumpelstilzchen
    7. Posted by Rumpelstilzchen Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:32 pm EDT

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    There's no way in hell they will cancel it in Vancouver. Canada would wage war on everybody if that happened. Fear our two battleships!
  8. sleza
    8. Posted by sleza Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:55 pm EDT

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    nhl has it faults but leaving olympics would be the stupidest thing they ever done
    everyone in europe will watch olympics over nhl
  9. hoojoowhatsits
    9. Posted by hoojoowhatsits Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:20 pm EDT

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    The Olympics get a much larger global audience than the NHL. Period. To close that "shop window" would be extremely foolhardy, given the importance of the European market.
    What the league should do is follow the model used by soccer. Turn the Olympic tournament into an under-23 (or under-25) event, and give each country three (or five...the olympic soccer uses three for a 23-player roster) overage exemptions. You lose the farce of having teams of thirtysomethings, NHL clubs that are veteran loaded aren't going to get killed, and you still promote that notion of the Olympics being about youth (plus, Hockey Canada, USA Hockey, etc. have some tough decisions).
  10. Professor Farnsworth
    10. Posted by Professor Farnsworth Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:13 pm EDT

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    Its every four years and i think the league owes it to their players to allow them to play for their own country. Seriously with out the players the league is nothing. The league just needs to stop worry about the money involved and allow their players to compete for the ultimate glory in sport for their country. Besides the NHL cant properly promote hockey in the states what makes them think they can promote a world cup properly on a world wide scale.
  11. Garth the Hoser
    11. Posted by Garth the Hoser Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:06 pm EDT

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    Adam Jones #5: Beauty comment, eh.
    Olympic hockey is unwatchable shinny. Canada pounding Togo 57-0 in the preliminary round is not worth putting real hockey on hold for 2 weeks.
    The entire farce features only three watchable games, usually: Canada v Russia; Canada v USA; the two semi-finals, and the gold medal game. And since Canada is usually in two of those medal games, there are really only 3 watchable games in 2 horrible weeks of hockey.
  12. .................................................!
    12. Posted by .................................................! Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:44 pm EDT

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    The NHL is stupid if it wants out of the olympics. it gives them great exposure to the market they supposedly want to dominate: Europe. So what if casual north american fans don't care for it? the olympics aren't a marketing toy for american sports leagues to play with, sorry.
  13. joe h
    13. Posted by joe h Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:26 pm EDT

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    I like #10's option the best by far. That actually worked out really well for the Olympic soccer teams—very interesting games.
    The NHL doesn't get great exposure at the Games, but it will get nada if they remove themselves entirely and do a World Cup. It's not soccer—not that kind of appeal everywhere.
    Also, looking back at that story, I still can't believe DiPietro, Robert Esche and John Grahme got in over Ryan Miller on the US team lol...
  14. joe h
    14. Posted by joe h Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:26 pm EDT

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    @ #12
    The Swedish Meatballs? The Fins? The Czechs? There's more than just the big three.
  15. joe h
    15. Posted by joe h Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:26 pm EDT

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    Plus, it's always fun to watch the chaos that ensues if Canada doesn't win
  16. Death by Leafs
    16. Posted by Death by Leafs Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:16 pm EDT

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    They should just negotiate an amendment to the CBA that allows any player to play in the olympics if he wants to, with cap shields (protections against Hasek-ish injuries) or even cap bonuses (i.e. incentives) for sending players to play in the Games. That way the teams arent totally worried about blowing their seasons if guys leave for the Olympics.
    The Games have meaning: its important to win a gold medal for your country. Players already stated the World Cup in 2004 was unnecessary and too draining. It has no inherent honour in it, so how many players will actually show up, or even give their all for this tournament? Will they sacrifice themselves to win this tournament right before the start of training camp? How many of us treat the World Championships with any dignity? Sure, good for whatever country/players win the thing, but only the Olympics and Stanley Cup are the only things that register with any of us.
    My point may be lost in the rambling, but Olympics=good, World Cup=blah, Bettman=better plant a new money tree
  17. Lord Calvert
    17. Posted by Lord Calvert Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:43 pm EDT

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    Because replacing the Olympics with an "International Competition" that only suits the needs of the US's biggest league has worked *so* well for baseball.
    Seriously, if this has failed so badly for baseball why are we even considering doing it for hockey?
  18. Scotty Hockey
    18. Posted by Scotty Hockey Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:22 pm EDT

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    If the NHL strives to be the NBA, why wouldn't they want to keep sending Dream Teams to the Olympics?
    The World Cup was frivolous fun but the Olympics are something really special. There is something to be said for players skating for pride and honour instead of a paycheck ...
  19. Al S.
    19. Posted by Al S. Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:51 pm EDT

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    @ 17-
    but would the World Cup be bigger if there wasn't Olympic participation by NHLers?
    I like amateurs being in the Olympics. I look fondly at the 1996 World Cup (I vaguely remember cringing through the 2004 World Cup because I knew it was going to be the last hockey for a long while- and that hanging over its head made me not want to watch). I also believe that the NHL would be hard pressed to compete with Olympic hockey if they were on at the same time.
    I also hate stealing ideas from soccer, but here goes:
    Winter Olympics- NHL players allowed to participate if owners agree, tournament is an Under-25 tournament with the exception that 3 players and 1 goalie may be over the age limit. Should make for a good mix of NHL, AHL, ECHL, NCAA, Canadian Juniors, European Juniors. Also good scouting and good way to get experience for guys in teams systems. The NHL All-Star game will be held the week before the Olympics if possible, so that some of the All-Star break is the Olympics schedule.
    World Cup- held almost immediately after every summer Olympics- as long as the Olympics are in the northern hemisphere. No age limit, all NHLers available. Delay the start of the season by two weeks during these years or something so these players have a break to recover.
    Victoria Cup- Unless it gets changed to Victoria's Cups and is presented by a lingerie-clad model, burn this trophy in h-e-2x hockey sticks where it belongs. Completely off topic, I know, but I really hate the Victoria Cup.
  20. cory d
    20. Posted by cory d Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:08 pm EDT

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    In the movie Miracle there is a voice over at the end of Kurt Russell as Herb Brooks talking about the Miracle team "Two days later the miracle was made complete. My boys defeated Finland to win the gold medal, coming from behind once again. It was a lot more than a hockey game, not only for those who watched it, but for those who played in it. I've often been asked in the years since Lake Placid what was the best moment for me. Well, it was here - the sight of 20 young men of such differing backgrounds now standing as one. Young men willing to sacrifice so much of themselves all for an unknown. A few years later, the U.S. began using professional athletes at the Games - Dream Teams. I always found that term ironic because now that we have Dream Teams, we seldom ever get to dream. But on one weekend, as America and the world watched, a group of remarkable young men gave the nation what it needed most - a chance, for one night, not only to dream, but a chance, once again, to believe." I say the NHl should pull themselves out and all nations go back to using their best amateur players- this would allow for hockey to continue to grow and expand in all nations and give more kids the hope and inspiration that one day they might get the opportunity to wear their home colors proudly and represent their nation on the world stage.
  21. Whale4ever
    21. Posted by Whale4ever Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:59 pm EDT

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    Great idea...never happen. The CBA; this one, the next, and any down the line after that, will preclude NHL'ers from doing a "World Cup" style tournament. It was certainly fun while it lasted, but what GM worth his salt is gonna allow one of his prime assets to participate? Right before the start of a new season?
    This has the potential to be an ugly fight, if the NHLPA can muster up the cojones to take it on. And given the relatively few members who might be included in such an event, it doesn't benefit the "non-superstar majority".
    This is a tough spot for Bettman: Keep the NHL troops involved (risking injury; see Hasek/Ottawa, 2006) and hope for the best, coverage-wise (63 timezones don't help), or bow to your franchise-owning overlords and their desire to field a healthy squad. And forget that those club owners have been waiting - and since rightfully given up on the idea - for their self-installed puppet to deliver a viable national television contract in the States.
    I'd love another World Cup. It was great for the league and fantastic for hockey fans across the globe. But I can't see it happening again. Too. Many. Lawyers. Too. Little. Foresight.
  22. johnny_sideburns
    22. Posted by johnny_sideburns Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:39 pm EDT

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    Since the NHL has been involved with the Olympics the only thing remotely approaching the drama of the "Miracle On Ice" has been a Czech team that included half of its players from its native Extraliga and NHL talent spearheaded by Dominik Hasek and Jaromir Jagr, two of the greatest NHL players of their generation and certainly among the greatest who ever lived. You could put together an All-Star team from the Russian Superliga these days and get a comparable result.
    I'm sorry, but you can't even compare that to Lake Placid. Or even Albertville or Lillehammer, for that matter. Get the NHL out of it and let the kids have it back...Canada can't still be so insecure that they believe only an Olympic gold medal will prove their superiority at "their" game. NHL players who still want to skate for their country still have the World Championships EVERY YEAR assuming their teams don't make the Stanley Cup playoffs. Keep the World Cup every four years and let NHL players play in that the way the Canada Cup used to be...it's nothing more than a re-boot of that old tournament, anyway.
  23. Daniel
    23. Posted by Daniel Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:36 pm EDT

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    I have been saying all along that if the NHL & IIHF brought back the World Cup of Hockey it would have a great importance not just for us here in the USA & Canada, but you will see the other European countries in the Sweeds, Fins, Czech's, Slovaks & many others get involved as well. You see the World Cup in Soccer energize the entire world once every four years, well this can do the same for those countries that has Hockey. Also we can see that there are other countries that have NHL players like Huet of France, Gerber of Switzerland & Owen Nolan who is originally from Irerland and not from Canada we could see an Irish Hockey side or an English side joining in sooner than later.
    I understand that some of the European players want to represent their country in the Olympics, but it's a pain in the rear end to stop the NHL season just to accomidate the Olympics during our season. The last time the NHL stopped their season for the Olympics, it killed off the momentum the NY Rangers had in that miracle come back year after the lockout. I don't want that to happen to any other hockey team or my hockey team ever again. Regardless if the Carolina Hurricanes did win the cup that year.
  24. David N
    24. Posted by David N Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:43 pm EDT

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    7. Posted by The KBBL Party Penguin Mon Dec 01, 2008 4:17 pm EST Report Abuse
    "Let's start with the most obvious challenge: Good luck telling Alexander Ovechkin that he can't represent Russia during the 2014 Games in Sochi."
    And you thought the Russians were pissed about the lack of a decent transfer agreement...
    Agree with you 100% players in other countries used to wait to cash in on making the big bucks to grab gold for their respective countries.
    I feel if they take the olympics away from this sport it will go the way of baseball and be forced out.
  25. Derek F
    25. Posted by Derek F Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:53 pm EDT

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    honestly, i don't know about leaving the olympics because it's a showcase for our brightest stars and a chance for them to represent their home countries. it gives our sport a world stage.
    tho i get what you're saying. i'll tell ya what i remember. ray leblanc on team usa in lillehammer along with ted donato.

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