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Some hockey news here and there on a Father's Day weekend.

The Montreal Canadiens will be back under the Molson label, sparing us from years of Celine Dion-as-owner jokes. Keith Tkachuk will return to the St. Louis Blues for next season, which is a shrewd move for both player and franchise. And Mats Sundin(notes) not only makes a decision, but one that flies in the face of the supposed motivations for his signing with the Vancouver Canucks.

But one of the weekend's biggest stories was still playing out as of this blog posting: The Calgary Flames naming Brent Sutter as their new head coach, following his departure from the New Jersey Devils after just two seasons. TSN called the deal "close," as did the Calgary Sun and other media last night.

The Flames' official site doesn't have a peep about it yet, save for an interesting debate on its official message boards.

Should this thing come to pass -- and there's been no indication it won't -- the question of compensation to the Devils, for the Flames hiring a coach that still had another year on his contract, will be an intriguing one; and it may not be as automatic as you'd think, according to Rich Chere of the Star-Ledger:

Sutter still has one season remaining on his three-year Devils contract, so Flames GM Darryl Sutter would have needed permission from Lou Lamoriello to speak to his brother about the vacant Calgary job. If he was granted permission, NHL bylaws state that the Devils would not receive compensation.

As you can see from the comments on that Star-Ledger story, Sutter is being wished nothing but the worst from Devils fans ... which is understandable but a little lamentable.

The sting of losing a good coach for selfish reasons and then seeing that coach resurface with another franchise in the same month is, without question, a slap in the face for most Devils fans. But as I wrote when Sutter left the NJD:

Bitter about Sutter leaving? Only if he takes over the Flames and leads them to greater heights than he led the Devils. Otherwise, he's a stellar regular season coach who couldn't win in the playoffs, and if the Devils wanted that they'd rehire Robbie Ftorek (/snark). But most of all, the Devils may no longer need a coach whose head is in Newark while his heart's in Red Deer.

This isn't Claude Lemieux(notes) asking for a new contract after his Conn Smythe or John MacLean requesting a trade on a gameday (to cite two of the greatest moments in self-servant Devils history). Maybe it's this Father's Day hooey that's getting to me, but the Sutter/Red Deer/homesickness thing makes you feel for Sutter; even if most of it is monetarily driven by his ownership of a Canadian junior team.

The Devils job now seems like a connecting flight to Calgary; a test to see if Sutter could uproot for an NHL gig or if his heart would be left behind in Alberta. He knows the answer, Devils fans know the answer, and the bottom line is that both parties are better for it now that the relationship has ended.

As for Calgary, the Edmonton Journal offered some details if Sutter takes the job:

If Brent gets the job, and multiple sources say he's the man, he could bring another brother, Ron, on as an assistant coach - he's been a pro scout for the Flames.

It's expected Ryan McGill and Dave Lowry will also be on his staff, along with goalie coach Jamie McLennan(notes).

Battle of Alberta had an interesting take on Sutter when he stepped down and the Flames were immediately in play:

Yeah, the Flames are turning into a Sutter family business, but Darryl's relatives in the org have roles that are quite specific and out of the spotlight. The coach's job is to do WHATEVER, that one way or another results in regular season and then playoff success. Sometimes, that's going to be odds with the way the GM has planned things. Let's imagine for a second that Brent was coach this past season, and thinks Olli Jokinen(notes) is basically crap. Darryl trades for him at the deadline, announcing that the org has been interested in him for years; he only did it because Olli has another year left on his deal; and that he only notified Brent the night before that it was about to happen ("GMs manage, coaches coach"). Does Brent really want to be in this kind of position, where his brother has autonomous license to affect what he thinks he should be doing to succeed? I'm not so sure.

Should Brent take the gig, the Calgary situation is going to be full of that family intrigue. It's been said that Darryl Sutter will be the Flames GM until he decides he isn't; how long is Brent given to succeed?

And what's the motivation for Brent Sutter as a coach in the League? His only other NHL stint ended without escaping the first round of the Stanley Cup playoffs, yet he left with regular season success, his reputation intact and the ownership of the Red Deer Rebels as a more-than-satisfactory fallback position. Not to mention another NHL coaching suit tailored for him.

This isn't to question the hunger and competitive drive of the man; anyone who saw Sutter's intensity in New Jersey understands he has it.

This is to say that, ultimately, there are two types of coaches in the NHL: Those who take jobs, and those who devour every aspect of them as a lifestyle choice. Two of the latter types just coached in the Stanley Cup finals. Based on what we've seen so far, Calgary's about to hire the former.

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  1. NJdvlDude
    1. Posted by NJdvlDude Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:48 pm EDT

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    Brent,Brent....why hide behind the " i miss my family" boo hoo ? weak move my friend, very weak. I hope Lou did not grant permission and Devs get something in return for being burned...lol.
  2. Adam Jones
    2. Posted by Adam Jones Sun Jun 21, 2009 1:57 pm EDT

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    Well, going to work for his brother could be cited as "Family reasons..."
  3. Costa T
    3. Posted by Costa T Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:20 pm EDT

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    Aren't you overlooking the nature of the Devils' head coaching position in all this? Let's face it, it's hardly a stable job over the past few seasons -- Lamoriello and the ownership have had no compunction in switching coaches unexpectedly, i.e. just before the playoffs. I half-expected that to happen this year, the way the Devs were floundering heading into the postseason. Maybe Sutter thought that was happening anyway, and that his final contract year offered no guarantee anyway, so he decided to jump on his own terms before being kicked out mid-season in 2009-10.
  4. wsscarlett
    4. Posted by wsscarlett Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:22 pm EDT

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    Greg...you cover the Devils....what,if anything,does Big Lou have to say about this? Will he give permission for the Flames to even talk to Brent?
  5. wsscarlett
    5. Posted by wsscarlett Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:24 pm EDT

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    And what happened to the reported "Option year" in Sundins' deal? All of the Left Coast reports,stated that the deal was a two year deal,with this past season being pro-rated.
  6. Noah T
    6. Posted by Noah T Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:33 pm EDT

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    you know the devils suck when their coach quits. seriously. how often does that happen?
  7. thenachofan
    7. Posted by thenachofan Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:51 pm EDT

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    Greg, now the Devils are coachless and knowing Lou a little, where does Jacques Lemaire fall in your coach category?
  8. Space Weed
    8. Posted by Space Weed Sun Jun 21, 2009 2:56 pm EDT

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    The only other thing Sutter can do is play Olli Jokinen on the 4th line because a checking line forward should be centering Jarome Iginla. Yea, Olli Jokinen will be out of Calgary faster than you can say Failure
  9. Sledge Longfellow
    9. Posted by Sledge Longfellow Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:07 pm EDT

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    Wyshynski, nice whiney cry-baby blogette. The Devils' fans who posted on the Star-Ledger article are obvious babies and some of the stupidest hockey fans around ... almost competing with Rangers fans. And you couldn't help but join them. Must be the toxins in the water.
    It's mainly for monetary reasons? And you know this how? His ranch and junior team were not going tits-up without him. And he's made some decent coin over the last 20 plus years. But your swamp-brain KNOWS he left for monetary reasons. So, to back your point the "driven by his ownership of a Canadian junior team" link to the National Post gives us an article indicating it is not at all monetarily driven and not particularly related to the Red Deer Rebels. That is sloppy, sloppy reporting. Your cry-baby bias stinks through.
    Oh yeah, and he just takes jobs, he doesn't actually live and breath hockey. And we know this because ???? Grow a set and quit whining and wimpering like a school-girl being chased by a tramp.
  10. Garth the Hoser
    10. Posted by Garth the Hoser Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:27 pm EDT

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    Maybe Devils fans (I'm assuming plural but there's little empirical evidence to prove it) need to remember that the guy who let in TWO goals in the last 90 seconds of to blow a Game 7 victory in the first round was not named "Sutter." It was that over-rated, fat-assed, sister-in-law [Tucker]ing POS goalie who has a losing record in clutch situations but has piled up enough front-running wins that stupid people [see: Devils fan; media] think somehow he's the best goalie of all time.
    I'm surprised any coach stays two years: you've got the most meddlesome little troll for a GM, your state is long-acknowledged to be the toilet bowl of America, and you've got a team that despite its one-ice success has (unless your fans are dressed like seats) plays in front of half-empty buildings every game.
    If ever there was a manufactured franchise that has no definable city to represent, no identity (other than David Puddy painting your logo on his chest), no fans other than the drunk brawling idiots who think a hockey game isn't a hockey game unless there's a fights on and off the ice, it's the New Jersey [Daneyko]ing Devils.
    Joke of building. Joke of a state. Joke of a team.
    The only bad part of Sutter bailing on your sorry-@ssed franchise is that Lou might re-hire Black Jacques Lemaire and forced fans in opposing buildings to ram knitting needles into their eyeballs on 41 nights a year.
  11. scott g
    11. Posted by scott g Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:55 pm EDT

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    I dont see what the big deal is. He wants to work with his brother back home in Canada. What an amazing opportunity.
  12. Hellvis
    12. Posted by Hellvis Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:07 pm EDT

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    Hey Garth, Shwing! You must really hate New Jersey with this kind of rant...especially since you know so much about the organization, team, state, fans, and players. I hope your post helps you with some stress release. Maybe you should take some anger management classes and deal with all the hate you're spewing. I wish you the best.
    P.S. B. Sutter is a sad individual if he jumps to the Flames. He should have had the balls to say he wanted to coach them instead of opting out of his contract.
  13. Chuck
    13. Posted by Chuck Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:25 pm EDT

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    Hey Garth, spell check bro....."rehire black", what does that mean exactly? A fun and long post, must not have anything better to do. All us Devils fan thank you for your continued support and praise to our great three time cup winning franchise. No need to stay in the closet, let your inner Devils fan emerge, don't hold it in, you'll explode! Keep bringing all the valuble info and insight that your split pea sized gord thats trying way to hard to be funny can post, thanks and your welcome..........lol.......
  14. Alex
    14. Posted by Alex Sun Jun 21, 2009 4:49 pm EDT

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    Didn't Sutter resign as the Devils coach? Calgary shouldn't have to pay the Devils anything if that was the case.
  15. WingeyDo
    15. Posted by WingeyDo Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:09 pm EDT

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    @10 GT Hoser: uh, hey buddy... it's supposed to be us Wings fans who are "p!ssed at the world" for the moment.
    your'e taking away our "thunder" to "plunder" with "blunder" lol
    just sayin...
  16. fishdogg
    16. Posted by fishdogg Sun Jun 21, 2009 5:34 pm EDT

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    Hey Garth, you sound like a frustrated Rangers fan who's viagra failed to work after paying for a $2 hooker. Dont hate on our Devils just because, next to the Red Wings, we are the premiere franchise in the NHL, so nibble on that nugget you sausage hoser! Go Devils 2009!!!!!
  17. Scotty Hockey
    17. Posted by Scotty Hockey Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:05 pm EDT

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    First Sutter, then Winter Classic 3a, after that? The world! Go Flames Go! lol.
  18. big audio
    18. Posted by big audio Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:16 pm EDT

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    Really now, Brent is such a NOTHING. The entire family of Sutters are a bunch of NOTHINGS. The Devils have not lost a single thing by giving Brent away, not a single thing. Who cares where he goes? He is a nothing, he lives in nowhere land, making all his nowhere plans for nobody.
  19. Tito "TD" O'Dell
    19. Posted by Tito "TD" O'Dell Sun Jun 21, 2009 6:52 pm EDT

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    The more Sutters, the better. The Knights were rather ho-hum until the Hunter brothers took over. Any compensation will be discussed beforehand, as Lou would be making a gentleman's agreement to let the brothers talk business.
  20. Will B
    20. Posted by Will B Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:35 pm EDT

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    Garth, who is Black Jacques Lemaire? Its sad that this forum allows somebody so ignorant to actually speak their feeble mind.
  21. Matt
    21. Posted by Matt Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:40 pm EDT

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    Brent was a plague to the Devils, he had no authority in NJ. The players told him what to do. He failed at playoffs, Calgary can have him.
  22. InGoal
    22. Posted by InGoal Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:00 pm EDT

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    Garth, You are an insult to all the Hosers out there. I've never seen a rant that long where not one of the "opinions" proffered was as inaccurate and unfounded as yours. You know the old saying, "even a blind squirrel finds nuts once in a while"? You haven't found yours. But then again it's hard to find what you don't have.
  23. EZ
    23. Posted by EZ Sun Jun 21, 2009 10:02 pm EDT

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    Go Devils!
    Stanley Cup Champs 2010!!
  24. JP13
    24. Posted by JP13 Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:38 am EDT

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    This whole situation really does irritate me. I hate to see anyone, coach, player quit or retire in order to just move somewhere else. Brian Burke did it when he switched from Anaheim to Toronto, Bill Cowher did it when he "wanted to spend time with his family." He takes a nice job at the talking heads desk every sunday and two years later gets paid big to coach the Jets. I just hate the fact that they lie about what they are doing. Just come out and let everyone know what you are really planning or just stay loyal to the team you are with and turn it into a champion.
  25. rob l
    25. Posted by rob l Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:16 am EDT

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    yeah Garth does not know what hes talkin about. Brodeur has three cups the last time I checked. He is the best goalie of all time next to patrick Roy and dominik hasek. Lets go Devils!

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