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If nothing else, Calgary Flames defenseman Robyn Regehr's(notes) prediction that Gary Bettman would address the NHLPA for 10 minutes before taking questions proves that the lockout taught these guys nothing.

There are times, when he's on message, that the commissioner resembles a robot from the future: He can't be bargained with. He can't be reasoned with. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until you understand why the Versus deal works and everything he said about Phoenix is technically true.

Bettman spoke to the NHLPA for two hours at its meeting in Las Vegas, and Michael Peca(notes) described it thusly to ESPN.com:

"It's like a Democrat coming to the Republican convention and talking about what they feel about health care and everything else," said the Columbus Blue Jackets center. "We've got similar thoughts about what the game should do, we've got, I think, different philosophies on the best ways to achieve those things. But I think it's always healthy. It gave the opportunity for players to ask questions and get answers -- maybe not fully the answers that they'd like, but certainly the ability to ask those questions."

The conversation ranged from television to drugs to the Phoenix Coyotes. Bettman's company line aside, the NHLPA appears very right and very wrong on a number of key issues.

What the NHLPA discussed in Vegas, in between finding Mike Tyson's tiger in their bathroom and marriages to strippers with hearts of gold. (Guess what movie we saw over the weekend ...)

The Winter Classic Doubleheader. As Leahy pointed out over the weekend, the players have been consistent in shooting down this idea for the last year. If their level of annoyance this time is due to a lack of communication from the NHL and the fact that revenues from the game are a bit murky from a PA standpoint, then it's understandable.

But here's the thing: The Winter Classic is, outside of the Stanley Cup Final, the single biggest television event for the NHL right now. (Sorry, All-Star Game.) For all their moaning about marketing, promotion and the current television deal, why wouldn't the PA support a second Classic game in Canada on Jan. 1? If nothing else, the gimmick is catnip to the television cameras the Association craves coverage from. Speaking of TV ...

Returning To ESPN. You knew this would come up. From Chris Johnston of the Canadian Press:

Another issue that came up with Bettman is the league's U.S. television contracts. Many players would prefer the league to strike a deal with ESPN, but the commissioner remains committed to Versus and NBC.

Regehr chuckled while describing the spin Bettman put on that issue while meeting the players. "I think it was a really good commercial by him for Versus and NBC," said Regehr.

This battle has been well-fought here on Puck Daddy, and will continue to be. But again, Bettman's in a position of strength here now: The ratings are successful on both NBC and Versus, and until ESPN antes up a rights fee package that matches or eclipses the one the NHL receives from Comcast ... well, it's just rather stunning to think that the NHLPA would be in favor of what amounts to a charitable discount just to sign up with Disney.

Drug Testing. Our buddy Corey Masisak of the Washington Times has a terrific review of the drug testing debate between the NHLPA and the NHL. NHLPA chief Paul Kelly said some positive things and some discouraging things:

Kelly said during the Stanley Cup Finals that the players would discuss the stricter suggestions and vote on whether they would be willing to accept the tougher standards. There was no vote, but Kelly said he would like to see any alterations to the testing policy negotiated before the end of the collective bargaining agreement, which has two seasons remaining, plus an optional year.

Some of the concerns from the players union include how privacy would be affected with offseason testing and the NHL's lack of involvement with the American Hockey League on the issue. The AHL does not have a drug-testing policy, and Kelly said the NHL should impose its influence on its top minor league and even help pay for the testing. Kelly said Bettman didn't agree with his assessment about the NHL's influence but that it is a good point and something the league should look into.

"I don't think there is a problem in our sport. That said, I think we could take some steps to improve our program," Kelly said. "The playoff testing is the most obvious one that ought to be addressed. We should take a good, hard look at the list of substances, but it has to be a two-way street."

The AHL non-policy is a stunner, because a collection of players willing to do anything to earn a trip to The Show might be susceptible to performance enhancing drugs, right?

What gives us the red-ass about Kelly's continued assurance that there isn't "a problem" in hockey is the fact that the testing policy isn't strict enough to figure out if there is one. Maybe using the "the World Anti-Doping Agency's in-competition list instead of the current policy of using the shorter, out-of-competition list," as Bettman suggests, will unfairly target some substances that shouldn't be targeted. But the testing policy needs tightening, and at least Kelly sounds amendable to that.

Bottom line: Thanks, baseball steroid testing news leakers, for giving every other players union or association in sports a reason to hide behind privacy concerns.

The Phoenix Coyotes. This would have been the ultimate fly-on-the-wall conversation for this meeting, because the players rightfully feel that Bettman flat-out deceived them on the Coyotes situation before the court case provided some sunshine. None of the press accounts appear to indicate that things reached a boil at the NHLPA meeting, but Pierre LeBrun of ESPN received some interesting comments from Peca:

"I actually share a lot of the feelings that the commissioner conveyed about the Phoenix situation," Peca told ESPN.com. "When you've got a kid that plays hockey and you know hockey's their life, you don't want to ever see that taken away. You've got to build roots in communities.

"It's easy to transplant a team into Toronto or Southern Ontario and it would succeed, but there's a growing base of kids that are playing hockey and in minor hockey systems that are thriving now in these communities that you don't want to rip away. It's a touchy thing and hopefully those organizations work out."

Outside of Columbus, Peca hasn't really spent all that much time in non-traditional markets, so his take is refreshing. The question is whether he's the vocal minority on this.

Salary Cap. According to the Canadian Press, the issue of a cap "inflator" wasn't settled:

One thing that wasn't officially decided here was whether the players will enact the five-per-cent inflator on the salary cap -- a decision that will affect next year's number by US$2 million. Secret ballots were cast by the player representatives in attendance but there wasn't enough of them to register a binding result. Missing players have until Tuesday to register their vote.

One figures this is awaiting a rubber stamp.

Fighting. Finally, there was discussion of fighting, but none of it was probably as entertaining than the discussion Georges Laraque(notes) of the Montreal Canadiens had outside the meeting. Check out his take on staged fights; the end of the clip looks like he's cutting a promo for ECW:

Buddy Oakes of Preds On The Glass has a few more videos like this one on his site, and they're all worth a look. Great stuff.

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  1. MarkT
    1. Posted by MarkT Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:06 pm EDT

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    is it any shock that the players want to be back on ESPN? Considering ESPN will hire just about anyone to be a analyst or to commentate on games its in their best intrest for ESPN to have more coverage and thus more jobs for the retired players.
  2. MarkT
    2. Posted by MarkT Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:07 pm EDT

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    Bettman Still Blows
  3. SCOTTSDALE DUDE
    3. Posted by SCOTTSDALE DUDE Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:26 pm EDT

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    Glad to see there was talk about keeping the Coyotes here in Phoenix. Even better to see players agreeing with the commisioner! Its true... I live aroundthe corner from the Alltell Ice Den where lots fo kids learn and play hockey in Scottsdale. Take way the pro team and their interest in the game will dissipate for sure!
  4. Adam V
    4. Posted by Adam V Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:37 pm EDT

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    On drug testing - love how hockey thinks there's "no problems" and it's "not an issue" in their sport. NASCAR thought that too - until they instituted testing this season and numerous crew members and one driver have been tested positive and been suspended or banned.
  5. habs1rule
    5. Posted by habs1rule Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:54 pm EDT

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    I believe Canadians are waiting for this league under Gary Bettman to Implode like a House of Cards ...And Mr Laraque, I have seen you on You Tube this off season more than I saw you on the ice this season..Lets keep it that way!!
  6. Journeyman
    6. Posted by Journeyman Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:00 pm EDT

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    Once the UFL is underway, exclusively on VS, it will surpass the NFL in popularity and drive VS to be the go to sports network. Then ESPN will be begging the NHL to come back and we'll cackle in their faces
    /bettman'd
  7. Jason M
    7. Posted by Jason M Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:08 pm EDT

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    I know that when I need financial advice I seek people who barely have a high school education.
  8. Phil M
    8. Posted by Phil M Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:16 pm EDT

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    Why doesn't the NHL do the smart thing and put the All-Star Game outdoors? February 1st is still "wintery" enough to have an outdoor game and you get two great things at once.
    A) You have a televised all-star game to showcase your league's talents.
    B) You have the proverbial "tv catnip" of an outdoor hockey game.
    Does this just make too much sense?
  9. Phil M
    9. Posted by Phil M Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:19 pm EDT

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    Aside from "PED's" I don't think any sport has a "drug problem"
    If some dolt wants to get high on his downtime between games who gives a rats ass?
  10. Justin K
    10. Posted by Justin K Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:20 pm EDT

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    What do performance enhancing drugs do in NASCAR? Make you drive faster? Make you fill tanks quicker? Change tires with fewer rivets?
  11. Fin-atic
    11. Posted by Fin-atic Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:27 pm EDT

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    I would have no problems with VS if they would just show games daily. Preferably a East Coast, West Coast double-header. I don't need to see the Rangers or Flyers in every game I watch.
  12. DON_DOC_IN
    12. Posted by DON_DOC_IN Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:27 pm EDT

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    It sucks that we are just stuck with Bettman. Can one guy do anymore damage? Outside of Pittsburgh, does anyone else like him?
  13. The KBBL Party Penguin
    13. Posted by The KBBL Party Penguin Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:30 pm EDT

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    @ Phil M:
    The problem with All-star Game is that it's a meaningless exhibition that usually involves no contact and players who were voted in by the fans blowing the game off.
    Making the All-Star Game an outdoor means it will now be a meaningless exhibition that usually involves no contact and players who were voted in by the fans blowing the game off... BUT now outdoors.
    If adding a second Outdoor game a year runs the risk of watering it down, making the all-star game outdoors will pretty much kill any buzz it generates deader than a Amish bachelor party.
  14. Munkcy
    14. Posted by Munkcy Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:32 pm EDT

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    Show of hands if you think ESPN would have put a hockey game on each and every night of the playoffs that there were games played....
  15. Munkcy
    15. Posted by Munkcy Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:34 pm EDT

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    @ The KBBL Party Penguin -- "...will pretty much kill any buzz it generates deader than a Amish bachelor party. "
    .
    Clearly you've never done Drunken Barn-Raising.
  16. Sean N
    16. Posted by Sean N Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:40 pm EDT

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    @6,
    While I'm quite the fan of more football..excatly how soon do you expect the UFL to surpass the NFL in popularity? You do realize that when it comes to sports business the NFL has 19 teams valued over a billion dollars.
    Where do we find the most expensive commercial spots? the NFLs Superbowl. THe TV rights to NFL games in total is a staggering 20.4 billion.
    The NFL is far and away the runaway winner at professional sports and money. Do you really expect the 800 pound gorilla to go gently int that good night? Or did I miss the sarcasm in your post?
  17. Liz S
    17. Posted by Liz S Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:42 pm EDT

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    the real problem with versus is the lack of regular season broadcasts...it's great that they show all the games they're able to in the playoffs (unless indy racing qualifiers are on obviously) but i as a nonbandwagon fan want to actually WATCH GAMES
  18. Sean N
    18. Posted by Sean N Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:44 pm EDT

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    A lot of folks sure seem to hate Bettman. But few are they who actually list things in which they theink he has failed.
    Is it solely the TV rights?
    Is it an over-expansion argument?
    exactly what are the beefs with Bettman? Surely it isn't the CBA? Thats what the owners wanted..they locked the players out and won.
  19. michael p
    19. Posted by michael p Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:47 pm EDT

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    Bettman is a great man!!!! He "Gave" the Cup back to Pittsburgh, he "told the refs" to throw the finals for the sorry Red Wings, and he's keeping the league off of the mainstream media so only "real fans" know of his conspiracy to rule the league using "Sid the Kid as the face of the league"!!!! Hey, let this man rule as long as he can! For all of us "bandwagon Pens fans" he's alright!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  20. PR
    20. Posted by PR Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:49 pm EDT

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    What retard wrote this?
    The ratings "work" on Versus and NBC? Compared to what? Friggin' poker games and women's college softball?
    Stop spinning with Bettman. The league hasn't improved one iota in any way, shape or form since he took over.
  21. TimmyK
    21. Posted by TimmyK Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:49 pm EDT

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    As a NHL player you'd be dumb not to take steroids right now. Bigger numbers equates into a bigger contract. The testing policy is a joke.
  22. Daniel C
    22. Posted by Daniel C Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:53 pm EDT

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    "it's just rather stunning to think that the NHLPA would be in favor of what amounts to a charitable discount just to sign up with Disney."
    Right, I mean why would the players be against the league taking a minor financial hit so their games can be broadcast on a channel that actually appeals to the mainstream sports population? I guess the players just wish they could say they're going to Disney World after winning the Cup. Yeah, that's probably it.
  23. blues_fan_mk
    23. Posted by blues_fan_mk Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:56 pm EDT

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    The 600 series had rubber skin. We spotted them easy, but these are new. They look human... sweat, bad breath, everything. Very hard to spot. I had to wait till he put hockey in Phoenix before I could zero on him.
  24. Devin M
    24. Posted by Devin M Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:59 pm EDT

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    Bettman is the worst commissioner in sports and ever in the NHL.
  25. DON_DOC_IN
    25. Posted by DON_DOC_IN Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:03 pm EDT

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    You kinda answered your own question by bringing up over expansion. Others are his stance on fighting, the TV contract as well, the schedule is another big one. Also, ever hear his "explanation" of why the Red Wings are fine in the WESTERN conference? Basically he comes off as smug and is not trustworthy. I just don't believe him when I listen to him........

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