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“JohnThe Carolina Panthers have lost the first three games of the season and the feeling in Carolina seems to be that head coach John Fox will be history at season's end unless things turn around really quickly.

That turnaround isn't expected to happen and a Fox firing would certainly satisfy a large group of fans that have been asking for such a thing since the Panthers were ousted by the Arizona Cardinals 33-13 in the playoffs last year. He's been with the team since 2002 and there doesn't seem to be a way for Fox to repeat his 2003 performance when he led the Panthers to the Super Bowl.

So the word is that Fox could be canned after the season and the team isn't likely to re-sign expensive defensive end Julius Peppers(notes), either, according to the Charlotte Observer, if things continue the way they have been.

Things are going to look a lot different for Carolina in 2010.

Source: Charlotte ObserverNew Window

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  1. Artist formerly known as Evil Empire!
    1. Posted by Artist formerly known as Evil Empire! Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:12 am EDT

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    Looking ugly there
  2. nepatsfan0520
    2. Posted by nepatsfan0520 Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:20 am EDT

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    The biggest problem in Carolina is their fan base of unknowledgable, fair weather, wine and cheese people. It's so funny to live here see all the powder blue panthers jersey's when they win and then to hear the same people who were sporting those jersey's talk about how they wouldn't go to a game if the tickets were free. This is a 3rd world nation when it comes to being a sports town! Fox is an above average head coach with 3 or 4 abover average NFL football players and a bunch of guys who have taken on the personality of the fans here. Quite and blame the team instead of standing behind each other! And they cry they want a major league baseball team here....what a load of bull chit these "fans" are. Go to Cleveland, New England, Oakland, Philly or even Detroit and you will see what true fans are. I say fire this suck @$$ fans and keep Fox.
  3. TarHeel Fan
    3. Posted by TarHeel Fan Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:22 am EDT

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    Bring in Cowher!!!
  4. TarHeel Fan
    4. Posted by TarHeel Fan Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:27 am EDT

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    Hey #2, I'll put my knowledge of the game against yours anytime!!! If we didn't have so many inbreds moving into the Charlotte area we wouldn't have those type of fans here. I'm a PSL owner and a true blue fan, win or lose! Maybe your one of those banking exec's that moved down here and think you can bash us good ole boys. Move your arse back where you came from!!!
  5. southernman
    5. Posted by southernman Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:37 am EDT

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    Hey #2, when the Pats sucked no one cared about them in Bahstin. No one stood by them you moron. Let me guess, you started liking them when Brady took over. Every other city you mentioned didn't stand by their teams when they sucked either. No one went to their games!!! Get a clue dooshbag. And by the way, Charlotte is predominantly transplants from the north you rube.
  6. dagoldeneagle
    6. Posted by dagoldeneagle Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:41 am EDT

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    the panthers were nothing without john fox.
    fox made panthers into an annual contender. he built them from the ground up. he placed his trust in jake delhomme, built a strong defense, withstood obstacles such as injuries to delhomme and several other key contributors, successfully replaced the production of franchise running back stephen davis, and made the panthers a well-rounded team. sure there were down years, but that was mostly due to injuries (remember delhomme was out for season 1 year, stephen davis was injured the year after super bowl, kris jenkins, mike minter, mike rucker, ricky manning jr.) hell, they had to start nick goings at running back.
    it would be a mistake to let him go.
  7. Lazer
    7. Posted by Lazer Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:49 am EDT

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    Hey number 2, learn to spell before you bash us Panther fans. I am pretty sure if you go to any other 0-3 teams homepage or local paper you will see the same comments about their front office and players. If we are not winning then don't we have to do something to change that? You are an idiot if you think we are wrong for wanting some changes. I can remember a day when I had never met a pats fan but now they are every where. That's what winning does.
  8. Skip
    8. Posted by Skip Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:50 am EDT

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    Why are they paying Julius Peppers all that money?
    I still can't figure out how they are 0-3
    Hell, THE LIONS won a game.....
    Fox is toast - get ready for Cowher-Ball!
  9. nflfan
    9. Posted by nflfan Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:51 am EDT

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    Maybe it is a time for a change and I do acknowledge what #2 states.............The fans don't really have much to hang their hat on with the Panthers. Until the Panthers came along, they were split between routing for the Skins or Falcons. That should tell you something. Even if they cahnge coaches, I don't think it should be the " Chin" he'll want more money thatn he is worth. Not to mention the way he bailed on his team the year after their Superbowl victory. They went a flat 8-8 and he displayed a very poor approach to coaching his team up. I think the perfect fit for Carolina would be Mike Shanahan. Just a thought
  10. Juash
    10. Posted by Juash Wed Sep 30, 2009 9:57 am EDT

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    This would be a horrible move! A new QB and healthy players is all he needs. Jesus, they went 12-4 last year! And we're only 3 freaking games into the season! They can still make the playoffs. It looks like Delomme needs a crash course in "Do not throw [profane] Interceptions-101"!
  11. dave d
    11. Posted by dave d Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:03 am EDT

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    Pats have sent a lot of teams reeling: carolina, st louis, jacksonville. To be the man you have to beat the man. How many years was carolina picked to win the Superbowl. Now they are in the Toilet Bowl. HAHAHAHAHA
  12. nepatsfan0520
    12. Posted by nepatsfan0520 Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:12 am EDT

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    The Panthers went to the playoffs LAST YEAR and are not that many years from having been in a superbowl yet three games in you want to ditch Fox for Cowher? Have any of you looked at what Cowher did with The Steelers? The same thing Fox does here. I do apologize for the minimal true fans I know you're out there and applaud you. For The Patriots question, Sullivan stadium was packed when Grogan was the QB and they were winning 4 or 5 games a year, I was there to watch it and loved it. Brady is my 3rd favorite QB in Patriots history so them winning isn't why I am a fan. It's called loyalty. By the way did anyone watch the end of The Lions game this past Sunday? THE PLACE WAS FULL OF FANS.....they lost more than 3 straight right? maybe I am wrong and they had won 19 straight and that's why all those people were there? Most Panther fans blow and if you're a PSL owner you know it. Maybe you're not one of those crappy fans but you know it, you see it for yourselves.
  13. Keith N
    13. Posted by Keith N Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:12 am EDT

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    I believe we do need change andI have been a fan since i heard about the panthers way back when. Fox is by far the best coach we have had ever. This year we are missing a lot players due to injury. THe Gm is just as worse i mean seriously givign up our 1 rounds picks two years in a row? The last one worked out well but i dotn hear much of Brown to have to give that up next year. Peppers is too much for too little. He was good alst year because we had a guy who could stop the run now with him ijured and new guys coming in daily were screwed majorly.
    I think with the way delhomme is playing either bench him or get rid of him. hes 30 something years old he had his time in the spot light because of steve smith. You dont sit there and say that with steve smith getting 200+ yards againts the bears in the super bowl season was because of Jake. If we had a QB who was limited to his mistakes and not easily rattled I think we could do very well. If the running game isnt there Jake isnt a guy who can rely on to win a game. With that said Better QB better record. The defense is great expect the corners and safties. Everyhting else besides those three things are awesome when able to work. WE just need the cash to get players on the team.
  14. Keith N
    14. Posted by Keith N Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:14 am EDT

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    #12 I got pissed when we lost the super bowl I acutally punched my wall LOL It was a great game though.
  15. bxdx003
    15. Posted by bxdx003 Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:22 am EDT

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    i think a new qb should be the first priority. Jake was always an average qb and now he is over the hill.
  16. Smitty
    16. Posted by Smitty Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:34 am EDT

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    One name...bill cowher
  17. Wade for President
    17. Posted by Wade for President Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:11 am EDT

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    Fox is not the problem. I have been saying this for over a year now... we need a new QB. I was saying it at the end of last season. Just watching him makes me shiver. It was thanks to the running game that they were even 12-4. Fox's only problem is his love for Delhomme. Time to cut the chord Fox... The sooner you get over him the sooner you can turn this team around. Oh and #2, I will be a Panthers fan if they go 0-16 year after year because deep down everyone knows... they gotta win it some day.
  18. relax
    18. Posted by relax Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:11 am EDT

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    Will Cowher be GM or coach because if Fox is gone Marty Hurney sure as heck better be gone also.
    try and remember that we have no 1st round pick next year unless we trade up into one somehow. right now Everette Brown looks like a top 10 if not top 5 pick in next years draft. Hindsite is 20 - 20 but drafting J Stewart 13 was a excellent choice but passing on Flacco will haunt us for years to come. To move up into 1st round will cost us Deangelo or Stewart I suspect, Peppers isn't increasing his value around the league at all.
  19. b v
    19. Posted by b v Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:39 am EDT

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    Wonder how they would feel if they had Norv Turner!!!!!!!!!
  20. dgree88
    20. Posted by dgree88 Wed Sep 30, 2009 11:59 am EDT

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    #13 is right on the money. I would of loved to see them win Monday night in the brand new billion dollar stadium.
    Now that I think of it if everyone is so against Fox, how do you think the Browns fans feel. Eric (the ass) Mangini should be available pretty soon....
  21. Thomas R
    21. Posted by Thomas R Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:05 pm EDT

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    #12, if Ford Stadium was "full of fans", then why was the game blacked out in Detroit? Detroit citizens probably have other reasons for not attending the game besides being disgruntled with the Lions, though (like most of them losing their jobs).
    Sadly, I agree with your main point in your first post (#2). I am born/raised/living in NC, and this is not an environment for pro sports. NC is a college sports state. Nothing wrong with that, but a lot of people here have a very take it or leave it attitude towards pro teams. I'm very happy that we have the NFL here, and will back this team as long as we have it, but most of the people you see wearing the jerseys on weekends aren't doing it for their love of the team. And I also think you have a point about the players taking on the attitudes of the fans. It's like they just assume their jobs are safe and aren't really trying as hard as they could. You don't have to look beyond the Dallas game to see that. There were 11 men on that field in the second half that I would guess had never seen a draw play before, nor tried to tackle a moving object. It was pitiful. That wasn't the same #90 that we've enjoyed the last few years, and he should have had his wish granted. Now hopefully the front office will grant the wishes of a lot of fans and give Jeff Garcia a call. He's not the final answer, but our current 2nd and 3rd rate - oops, I mean string - QBs aren't going to plug this gaping wound we currently have at the QB position. They need experience back there, not just the next guy in line.
  22. jeff d
    22. Posted by jeff d Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:10 pm EDT

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    #2 i'll teach u the game in a feild baby boy know your roll talking about us good ole boys.go big cats, we will always love foxy here in tarheel land
  23. manu4t
    23. Posted by manu4t Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:39 pm EDT

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    OK first of all to all you clowns who are bagging on the CAR fans, get over it. The fans arent the problem, I am a season ticket holder and I know what I see, our fans are pretty good for only having had the franchise the amount of time we have had it. Show me fans from JAX
  24. PantherFan95
    24. Posted by PantherFan95 Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:00 pm EDT

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    Who made the decisions to spend a ton of money on an underachiever like Peppers and average QB like Delhomme? Isn't that who should get fired. Their contracts handcuffed Carolina from getting any other real talent and now we are paying the price with an average QB and lazy overpaid defensive "leader". Fire the decision-maker that just destroyed the 2009 season with those moves!!
  25. Bobby R
    25. Posted by Bobby R Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:09 pm EDT

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    @2
    I'm going to point out how little you pay attention. The fact that Carolina fans are upset is not because they are necessarily fair weathered, but they realize that they have a good team that is being run into the ground. For example, Carolina rushed 16 times on Monday. That doesn't make sense because the Panthers are a run team. Jake Delhomme is helping the Panthers lead the league in turnovers thanks to his 7 interceptions so far. He is also leading the league in picks (if I'm not mistaken). What makes all of this worse is that John Fox does not think anything is wrong and will claim Jake just had a bad game. Panther's fans are mad because we know we have a great team, but a terrible QB and a head coach that is letting it happen. So, excuse me (anyone else) for complaining about it. If you really want to complain about fair weather fans... go to Philly. McNabb will take the Eagles to playoffs consistently, and the fans will still want his head after one bad game.

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