Zorn looking like lame duck; Rogers says 2-3 mark 'starts with the ownership'

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ASHBURN, Va. - Jim Zorn already has the look of someone playing out the string of his employment.

One veteran says he just hopes the coach is around "for the remainder of the year." Another is calling out everybody, saying "it starts with the ownership."

But here's one more fact that pretty much sums up the current state of the Washington Redskins: On Sunday, they had a guard playing tackle, and a tackle playing guard.

And it's only getting worse. After giving up five sacks and gaining only 198 total yards in Sunday's 20-17 loss to the Carolina Panthers, Zorn announced Monday that six-time Pro Bowl tackle Chris Samuels(notes) will miss next week's game against Kansas City with an injury.

What are they going to do? Punt on first down? How is this offence, which hasn't scored 20 points all season, going to move the ball behind this line?

"My responsibility - and it really is my responsibility - is to even have THAT work," Zorn said.

Zorn usually has at least a tinge of optimism about him, but his mood was definitively downbeat after reviewing the video of yet another loss to a winless opponent. Only four teams in the NFC have worse records than Washington (2-3); the Redskins have played all four - and lost to two of them.

With Kansas City at 0-5, the Redskins are about to become the first team in NFL history to play six straight games against winless opposition. Unless they find a way to improve, it could be their last competitive game for a while.

"I want to win. That's what I'm here for. That's what the Redskins are all about," Zorn said. "We've lost two tough games. I feel bad. I'm hurting, and our team is as well. These guys are guys with resolve. I'm a man of resolve, and we're going to get back at it."

Questions about Zorn's job security arise almost daily, to the point that the players supporting him are stating goals that are increasingly modest - such as getting him through the final 11 games of the season.

"I admire his character," defensive end Andre Carter(notes) said. "I admire the level of integrity he has as a coach as well as a person. I just hope that he's here for the remainder of the year."

Twenty-one games into his first head coaching job, Zorn still has serious game management problems. The Redskins burned their last time out with 8:47 to play Sunday. And a stretch play behind a leaky offensive line on the three-yard line resulted in Clinton Portis(notes) being tackled in the end zone for a safety.

But the Redskins are in the mess they're in also because of their personnel. The front office failed to adequately address the offensive line in the off-season. Portis no longer looks capable of breaking off an explosive run, and second-year receivers Malcolm Kelly(notes) and Devin Thomas(notes) have only 11 catches combined in five games.

"We've got a lot of things we need to iron out, a lot of problems," cornerback Carlos Rogers(notes) said. "It's from personnel to coaches to whatever it is, there's a lot of things we need to iron out, and until we address those issues and turn it around, we're going to be the same, going up and down. It not only starts with the players, coaches; it starts with the ownership. They bring everybody in and they've got last say-so of everything, so that's where it starts, I guess."

It's unusual for a player to implicate owner Dan Snyder and executive vice-president for football operations Vinny Cerrato along with everyone else. After painting that picture, Rogers was asked what could be done in the short team to address the team's needs.

"You can't do too much right now," Rogers said. "You just have to go with what you've got and make the best for it, and that's what we're doing. They're making changes where they feel they need to make changes. Other than that, players are going to have to step up, coaches are going to have to step up, and we've just got to find a way - that's the bottom line - we've got to find a way to turn it around and deal with what we've got."

Right guard Randy Thomas(notes) was lost for the season with a torn triceps last month, and left tackle Samuels was gone early against the Panthers with a stinger and will miss at least one game. That prompted the Redskins into a lineup with Mike Williams - a career tackle - playing right guard and D'Anthony Batiste(notes) - who's always been a guard - playing left tackle. Tight end Chris Cooley(notes) failed to catch a pass for the first time since 2004 because he was needed to help block.

Next week, the team anticipates moving struggling right tackle Stephon Heyer(notes) to left tackle and Williams to right tackle. Right guard? Yet to be determined.

For his part, Zorn did what he had to do Monday - he took his share of the blame. He uttered some form of the phrase "It's my responsibility" several times. He said he's in constant self-introspection mode.

"I ask myself questions. 'What are we doing?' 'Are we doing it right?' 'Do we have the elements we need to be a successful offence?' 'Has the scheme taken advantage of our opportunities?' I'm asking all those questions, and I ask them every week," Zorn said. "But the overall picture, we've just got to keep pushing. I don't have a lot of time devoted to worrying about my job status."

But some of the players are thinking about it.

"Guys have been kind on eggshells walking around here for the last couple of weeks," kick returner Rock Cartwright(notes) said. "But we don't make any decisions. Mr. Snyder and Vinny, those guys make the decisions. We leave it up to them guys, but we're still behind coach Zorn. We're still going to fight for him."

NOTES: The Redskins cut P Glenn Pakulak(notes) and re-signed DE Renaldo Wynn(notes), reversing the move they made Saturday. Pakulak was needed to punt against Carolina because Hunter Smith(notes) was out with a groin injury. … DE Phillip Daniels(notes) tore his right biceps against the Panthers but will postpone surgery until after the season so he can continue playing. … Zorn said Sherman Lewis, hired last week by the front office to be an offensive consultant, has yet to make much of an impact. "It's still early, but I am working on some assignments for him," Zorn said. "He's very willing. He's trying to get up to speed."

Updated Oct 12, 6:25 pm EDT
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  1. sexdrugsandrockandroll
    11. Posted by sexdrugsandrockandroll Tue Oct 13 10:53am EDT

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    Love my 'skins, HATE Snyder and Cerreto as THEY are the problem. Till we get a new owner and GM, I will boycot this team and root for the other team to win by 20+ points. 2-3 now, 2-14 at seasons end will be just fine with me., Jezz, never thought i'd say that or this, Go KC.
  2. <i>jtenrec1</i>
    10. Posted by jtenrec1 Tue Oct 13 10:05am EDT

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    This franchise has been modeled after the Orioles.
  3. RohitC
    9. Posted by RohitC Tue Oct 13 8:52am EDT

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    Dan Snyder & Vinny Cerrato - the gruesome twosome.

    They have completely ruined this team with bad personnel moves and head coaches without experience. Why is there always a Zorn and Campbell watch and not a Cerrato watch - after all its Cerrato who has ruined this team and no self respecting coach (read Shanahan) will ever consider the Redskins until Cerrato goes.

    Fire Vinny now.
  4. Marc L
    8. Posted by Marc L Tue Oct 13 8:46am EDT

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    #4, not that I doubt that you are a hardcore fan, but it's bobby beathard, and Jack Kent Cooke, other than that keep on rooting for the team. I have some critism of the team. They will be 4-12 this year and we will draft a real quarterback. Bradford sounds good! If Chris Cooley is Captain Chaos then, Fred Davis is Captain Terribles. Carlos Rogers has the worst hands of a cornerback ever, can we lobby to bring back Stick-em? Fat Albert needs to take his breathers on the sideline, don't hold up the game Hoss! Why did we go for it on 4th from the Carolina 37? Shaun Shazam! can kick a 54 yarder, he looked money on the first field goal. Zorn is too timid and JCamp holds on to the ball too long. It seems that we do well when we are in the shotgun formation and JCamp is shipping it out there, How about using the pass to set up the run!!!! I don't know how long I can continue to watch Danny Boy ruin my Skins. Hang your head in shame, Skins fans!
  5. robert
    7. Posted by robert Tue Oct 13 12:47am EDT

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    Dear Dan:

    For the good of the team and its legions of loyal fans, SELL THE TEAM!
  6. kqlno1
    6. Posted by kqlno1 Mon Oct 12 11:21pm EDT

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    Amen.

    The coach and QB are the by products of 10 years of bad judgement from the football fantasy owner and his puppet.
  7. John L
    5. Posted by John L Mon Oct 12 11:12pm EDT

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    Thank you j p. Given a good O-Line, most any NFL QB and RB will do fine (including Campbell and Portis) and with a good D, the team as a whole should win. I'm not so sure about Zorn though... We'll see I guess. Whatever happened to the days that the defense knew the play and we ran over them like a freight train anyway? Ask John Riggins. What about having five or six seconds in the pocket to pick a target to throw to... Mark Ripien will tell you! Who was his RB? Ricky Sanders??
  8. <i>bikermichael</i>
    4. Posted by bikermichael Mon Oct 12 11:09pm EDT

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    I have and still am a hardcore redskin fan. every sunday i am hoping that things are going to get better. wasnington has been going backwards every since bobby bedford left and only got worser when the kent family sold the team to the present owner. i dont know what its going to take to turn the team around sadaly i dont think the present orgacation can do it. hail redskins
  9. <i>ladyredskins330</i>
    3. Posted by ladyredskins330 Mon Oct 12 9:08pm EDT

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    At least we aren't 0-5 like some other teams. This year has been the most frustrating year and it's still early in the season. I have been a diehard obsessed Redskins fan for too many years to count and I still luv them and will always be a Redskins fan, just extremely frustrated and a change is needed from ownership down to coaches. I also still can't believe that they cut Chase Daniel especially with the fact that he showed so much potential, more than Colt Brennan and Campbell has reached his potential. Bad decisions being made all around. The talent is there but no one seems to know how to use it and what to do with it. You can't keep on calling the same plays and being so predictable each game. Also this stupid west coast offense needs to go, it is not working! Let's get back to playing real smash mouth football, it's worth a try and please coaches, think of new plays, that's what is needed, new plays!!!! HAIL!!!!!
  10. henry
    2. Posted by henry Mon Oct 12 8:44pm EDT

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    amen.
  11. j p
    1. Posted by j p Mon Oct 12 8:11pm EDT

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    management knew three seasons ago that they needed to address the offensive line, here we are three seasons later with the same problem. They went on their merry way , trying to find bargain basement lineman which has do jacks--t to address the problem on the o-line. You got a QB and a headcoach thats giving it everything that got and still management can't see that the problem is them. This team will never be a winner again as longer as a career fantasy team owner and his suck up of a shadow continue to run this team. Daniel Synder, quit playing and hire a real GM, its not the coach or the QB, it's you and Vinny..................
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