Cleveland’s football circus

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BEREA, Ohio (AP)—Just hours after Cleveland’s fired general manager walked down the front steps in disgrace carrying his belongings in travel bags, two disgruntled fans climbed the same steps inside the team’s headquarters for a meeting with the team’s camera-shy owner.

One of them wore a plastic dog bone hat. He used to go to games dressed as a french fry.

Welcome to the bizarre world of the Browns. Once a flagship NFL franchise, now seen as a farce. The Oakland Raiders of the Midwest.

Halfway through coach Eric Mangini’s first season, the Browns (1-7) are tumbling at an alarming rate. They reached the bye week in such disrepair— their offense is ranked 31st, their defense 32nd—it may take years from them to get fixed.

Inept. Overmatched. Laughable. Embarrassing.

All of those words have been used to describe this team, starting quarterback Derek Anderson(notes), Mangini and owner Randy Lerner.

On the field, the Browns are terrible. Off it, they are in turmoil.

This week, Lerner fired GM George Kokinis, a dismissal that followed the resignation of Erin O’Brien, Mangini’s personal assistant in New York who worked as a team operations director in Cleveland. Also, former Browns quarterback Bernie Kosar has been brought in as a consultant and the team is searching for an experienced executive, “an overarching person” as someone in the organization put it, to run its football department and oversee a new GM.

The Browns seemingly need an intervention. They need help, and the season is only half over.

“We’re just going with the flow,” Pro Bowl tackle Joe Thomas(notes) said.

Fired after last season by the New York Jets, Mangini came to Cleveland with a plan to restore the Browns, bring them back to respectability, make them winners again. He brought in 10 former Jets, overhauled the roster with 25 new players—so far. He traded offensive stars and headaches Kellen Winslow(notes) and Braylon Edwards(notes), benched quarterback Brady Quinn(notes) for Anderson just 10 quarters into the season, and may make a switch again.

Nothing has worked.

“It takes time,” Mangini said earlier this week.

He may be running out of it.

Although Lerner offered his support to Mangini this week, saying he could not envision any scenario in which he would make a coaching change in 2010, if the next eight games go as poorly as the first eight, he may have little choice but to replace his coach.

Mangini may have reasons to be nervous.

Lerner’s firing of Kokinis seemed to strip the coach of power. Kokinis was Mangini’s hand-picked choice, hired away from Baltimore and reuniting two friends who worked together in the 1990s in Cleveland as underlings to then-coach Bill Belichick.

But from the start, the Kokinis-Mangini management marriage seemed destined for a divorce. The two were rarely seen together and when Kokinis addressed the media before April’s draft, Mangini sat a few feet away on the dais shooting his GM a watch-what-you-say glare.

Kokinis’ stunning and strange ouster came less than 24 hours after Lerner said he wanted to bring in a “strong, credible leader” to oversee the club’s football operations. That would mean filling an executive void the Browns have not addressed since their expansion return in 1999.

Lerner, who has yet to address the media on the firing, had hoped Kokinis would evolve into that person. But did Mangini give his friend the freedom to grow?

Kokinis was all but invisible during his nine months on the job. When the club traded Edwards to the Jets last month, it was Mangini who explained the rational to the media. Kokinis was never heard from, a strong sign he had already lost whatever authority and stature he had been given.

Now, Lerner is looking for his third GM in less than a year—Phil Savage was fired in December—and Mangini believes he will have input into the next hiring.

“Randy and I talk a lot,” Mangini said, “so I’m sure we’ll be very engaged in that (decision).”

Ernie Accorsi, Cleveland’s GM from 1985-92 and a close friend of Lerner’s, has been mentioned as a possibility to serve as a vice president of football operations, a role similar to Bill Parcells’ job with the Miami Dolphins. The problem for the Browns is that candidates of Parcells’ caliber are few, and trying to hire one in the middle of a season is difficult.

As for a GM, that may have to wait until after the season. Anyway, Mangini believes the Browns are equipped to function without one until January.

“I do feel good about all the things that we have in place, in terms of the pro department, the college department, the structures, the systems there,” he said.

One thing Mangini may not have considered is it could be tough for Lerner to persuade any football mastermind to come to Cleveland with the current coaching system in place.

Mangini has yet to show he can successfully build a team. He mismanaged the quarterback position, damaging Quinn’s confidence with the early hook and diminishing any trade value for the former Notre Dame star or for Anderson.

Beyond that, Mangini’s tenure in Cleveland has included him being fined $25,000 by the NFL for lying about Brett Favre’s(notes) injury last year in New York; players filing grievances against Mangini for fines; a locker room fight following a rookie being doused with water; an investigation into rookie James Davis’ shoulder injury suffered in one of the coach’s post-practice “opportunity periods;” and running back Jamal Lewis(notes) announcing this season will be his last.

And one victory.

The seven losses in eight games are lowlighted by an offense that has scored fewer touchdowns (5) than New Orleans’ defense (6).

Some fed-up Browns fans plan to display their disgust by staying out their seats for the opening kickoff of the Nov. 16 game against Baltimore. They’re hoping to show Lerner, the league and a Monday night TV audience that they won’t take anymore.

Lerner reached out to the two organizers of the protest and met with them in his office this week for two hours. “Dawg Pound Mike” Randall said Cleveland’s owner since 2002 was receptive to some of his ideas. He even joked to Lerner that he should hire him to help fix the Browns.

Somebody needs to fix them.

Updated Nov 7, 12:06 am EST
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  1. Mr Common Sense
    32. Posted by Mr Common Sense Mon Nov 9 4:09pm EST

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    Hey Poster 31 - You told me to drop dead - I DO NOT DO REQUESTS BUTT HOLE! Take your latino butt back to Mexico and score some drugs, you rat faced weasel. Otherwise, get your ass out and pick the oranges and grapefruit for my daily fresh juice. I sure got to a loser like you.

    Hey Poster 30 - Terry, drop the threats. In addition, do not forget to pick up your wife in the drunk tank at the county jail.
  2. <i>mendozahonda</i>
    31. Posted by mendozahonda Mon Nov 9 1:31pm EST

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    Hey C.S.,

    Say what you want about Cleveland because none of us give a rat's behind what an unemployed metal patient like you thinks about anything. Plus, we have the peace of mind of knowing that we will never have to see your miserable face here. I see that you have a "private profile" so you must be embarassed about where you live, which would also explain why you project that onto the fine people of Cleveland. (You probably have to look something up now to figure out what I'm talking about.) Let me guess, you're some unemployed, lazy, fat, ugly, lonely guy who has nothing better to do than to try to make himself feel better by anamously ripping into people on Yahoo all day. Drop dead, loser!
  3. Terry
    30. Posted by Terry Mon Nov 9 9:09am EST

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    CS,

    Not in YOUR case! You've demostrated a callousness and mean-spiritedness that wholeheartedly deserves the honor of being called C*ck Sucker. The next time you open your mouth to spew your vile Browns retoric, please remove the phallus first!
  4. divingdw_2000
    29. Posted by divingdw_2000 Mon Nov 9 8:59am EST

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    Well, looks like another rebuilding season next year. We just didn't wait 3 years to discover that 'the plan' being put in place by an inept idiot wasn't going to work out. It's amazing to see the evolution of this organization. Go from one coach who runs the whole show, to another coach who couldn't run, but had a somewhat talented GM (at least he could spot talent). To another coach who wanted to run everything with a dumb@ GM. Now the next stage of the evolutionary process is a bunch of bickering executives who all want to run the show, but can't agree on anything. The result will be a bunch of finger pointing when we have another horrible year. I haven't seen a guy with passion in this organization since we got here (with exception to a few D-coordinators and a TE who couldn't control his ego). We don't need some D-bag who is going to pitch us some gimic plan on how he's going to get things done. We need a guy that knows football for the way it's supposed to be played. I was hoping for Josh McDaniels last year, but we got a wash up. Only thing I can say about Mangini is he has hammered on the penalty's. But that doesn't matter when you can't get in the endzone.
  5. Mr Common Sense
    28. Posted by Mr Common Sense Mon Nov 9 7:29am EST

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    Hey Mark L, Post 23: The Cadavaliers are losers - how many champioships 0000000000000. All they are is a bunch of tattoed freaks who should be either in a circus or a jail. When Queen Labum James leaves town (like all others who want to be a success), where will the WNBA Cavs be. Wake up / Grow up and realize that you would be better off dead than lioving in Cleveland.

    Hey Marcus, poster 25 / 26: Still getting you upset moron. You need to take a chill pill and lighten up. You are always upset on Monday morning, probably because you have to leave the ghetto, go to the justice center, and check in with your parole officer. Is today your drug test? I hope you pass. Otherwise, you wife will be awaiting you in lockup.

    Hey edb, Poster 27: Nice post num nuts. Now run and catch the bus to the unemployment office for your weekly check in. And also, stay out of the suburbs - STAY IN YOUR PART OF TOWN!

    Hey Terry, Poster 22: You are bright, CS also stands for Cool Stud!

    ROCK ON LOSERS
  6. edb
    27. Posted by edb Mon Nov 9 6:40am EST

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    mr common sense is a derelict idiot,and needs to go away,go browns
  7. Marcus
    26. Posted by Marcus Mon Nov 9 12:56am EST

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    Get Bent,

    Do me a favor. Leave out the same old tired rant about me living in a ghetto or a trailer or at some ghetto community center.

    You are probably one layoff from relocating in that cardboard box where you left your spoon, tinfoil and that corrosive batch of duracell batteries.
  8. Marcus
    25. Posted by Marcus Mon Nov 9 12:54am EST

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    Mr. Get Bent (Common Sense),

    Still pounding your sunken in chest with your hairy palm, I see.

    Ok, G.B., the Browns suck. What an incredible diagnosis! Not withstanding the 1-7 record, a fired and disgraced G.M. and a whole city in despair, you're writing breaking news!!!

    Look out, Larry King! The Douchebag Report is set to launch in 2010!!! Courtesy of Mr. Get Bent!!
  9. Marcus
    24. Posted by Marcus Mon Nov 9 12:46am EST

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    People are still @#$%ing about the Browns during a bye week.

    Face it, guys.

    Brady Quinn crapped out the season at the start. Braylon Edwards quit on his squad and was rewarded with a spot on Broadway. "Hands of Stone: The Comeback" will be playing throughout the second half and will end its run by early December.

    Fans who don't know @#$% about football want to blame Derek Anderson for everything wrong with the Browns. That's real smart. Blame him for a @#$%y, o-line and inconsistent d-line, hapless receivers who could only catch the H1N1 virus and a vanilla (at best) offensive game plan.

    I had a pro-Quinn discipline tweet me last week. He tweeted "Brady doesn't cry." I made a reference at this guy's lack of intenstinal fortitude in bowl games and regular-season, NFL games.

    Well, stats don't lie. I won't list them again. Just read my previous posts and find out your damn selves!

    Quinn will come back just to finish putting the dirt over another dead season! He put in the nails and the organization hammered them down. Quinn hasn't done @#$% as a pro. He wore out his opportunities to prove he can pass for 20 yards with some accuracy. Just having good looks may work for Hooters waiters and Hollywood startlets, but not pro quarterbacks being overpaid for having no skills!
  10. Mark L
    23. Posted by Mark L Sun Nov 8 6:44pm EST

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    Dear Mr Common Sense
    Yeah, the Browns suck, you got us on that one. But the Cavs are a contender and have as good a chance as any of the top teams in the East to win it all. It is sooo much fun to have a team that is a contender and a legitimate one at that. Go Cavs! The Browns will be back, and as for your statement about money, the Indians are the only team in town that is cheap. Gilbert and Lerner have unlimited funds and will spend the money.....shows how much you know. Oh, and by the way, learn how to spell, your grammar and spelling are at a 3rd grade level....borderline mental retardation. Have a nice life wherever you live and go f yourself.
  11. Terry
    22. Posted by Terry Sun Nov 8 5:23pm EST

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    I think Mr. Common Sense is a synonym for another C S....take a guess what that is! Pucker up, CS!
  12. N/A
    21. Posted by N/A Sun Nov 8 5:20pm EST

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    Woot! we didn"t lose this week!! oh right it was a bye week!!!
  13. Mr Common Sense
    20. Posted by Mr Common Sense Sun Nov 8 2:48pm EST

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    Hey Ma, Post 20: Get off the computer and clean the trailer. Remember, tomorrow, pa has to check in with his parole officer. In addition, ma, you have an appointment to get your teeth cleaned (all 3 of them) on Wednesday. Cleveland is the laughing stock of the sports world. One of the announcers on the NFL pregame show stated that Cleveland made the Raiders Organization look like the super bowl champs! The serial killings are a tradegy, but watch the lawyer for the serial killer use the Browns Defense. The Browns subjected me to "cruel and unusual punishment" and I snapped. One other thing, we could empty death row for all US Prisions if the killers were given one of the following 2 choices:
    Choice 1 - Lethal Injection
    Choice 2 - Banishment to Cleveland, mandetory attendance to Brwons / Indians games.

    ROCK ON LOSERS
  14. Ma
    19. Posted by Ma Sun Nov 8 2:12pm EST

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    Mr. Common Sense

    What a pitiful state of humanity you reside in. You go on a website and attack a fan base and a city who are already down. For what purpose? Are you trying to teach the people that it's wrong to be loyal to a city or a team? But much worse is that you bring in a tragedy where multiple women are murdered and use it as a prop for spewing more venom. Based on your postings, you aren't worthy to criticize anything or anyone.
  15. Mr Common Sense
    18. Posted by Mr Common Sense Sun Nov 8 12:45pm EST

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    Hey poster 18: No I am not a Steelers Fan. I am a Fan of the NFL, and the Browns are a disgrace to the league and to the public. Go figure, they are in the worst City in the country. Thats Cleveland to you idiots.

    Poster 17, Kenneth H: Listen Kenny: leave the communication to those of us with an IQ above yours (25). Why don't you and your tranny girl friend go down to the Cyahoga River today, have a little picnic, and see if it catches fire. If it does, jump in and take your weekly bath you low life moron.
  16. <i>browns5678</i>
    17. Posted by browns5678 Sun Nov 8 11:51am EST

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    Mr Common Sense, I bet your a Steelers fan.
  17. Kenneth H
    16. Posted by Kenneth H Sun Nov 8 11:28am EST

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    The troll hangs around because you lot feed him.
  18. DAVIDM
    15. Posted by DAVIDM Sun Nov 8 9:40am EST

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    when your @the bottom you only have 1 way ,and thats up.go browns
  19. Mr Common Sense
    14. Posted by Mr Common Sense Sun Nov 8 7:11am EST

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    hey Posters 13 / 14: I am exercising my right of free speech and if you not like like it - go to hell. You are in Cleveland now, so you are already 99% of the way there. Your team and city are such holes that, if people like this writer, do not post the facts you will all resort to serial insanity eventually. The cause will be the caliber of the city and the sports teams. After the Browns, Indians, and those low class Cadavaliers are out of the playoffs (And that weasel James leaves town), you won't draw a crowd of 100 people for any sports event.
    Read Post 2 - Another convert
    Read post 4 - Another convert
    Read Poster 8 / 9 - they got it.
  20. gjd aus wien
    13. Posted by gjd aus wien Sun Nov 8 6:28am EST

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    one more thought for "cs". what type of satisfaction does it bring to insult an entire city? do you smile with success when you see others get riled by your comments? i feel sorry for you if that's the case.

    for other "real" bloggers, if yahoo still allows the posts, let's make this the last recognition of her/him. same logic works for children that cry for attention; after a while they realize a positive approach is more difficult but overall works better.
  21. gjd aus wien
    12. Posted by gjd aus wien Sun Nov 8 6:19am EST

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    uff. things in the sports world are bad enough for our city, but to have someone post comments for the sake of upsetting us further is unacceptable. a blog is the focus on the team, not rip the city and those that are proud to come from there. i hope yahoo takes my "report abuse" submission seriously because your comments have little to do with sports and focus on simply hurting people that are already hurt. leave this blog if you have nothing about the team to say; ask yourself: are you making a situation better or worse?

    as for our browns, sadly we know this already with the cavs and indians. i only hope it doesn't take too long for the inevitable...another rise to respectability. i just won't hold my breath while lerner owns them.
  22. Mr Common Sense
    11. Posted by Mr Common Sense Sat Nov 7 9:09pm EST

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    Hey Josh M, Post 11: Lister moron, there is not enough money in Cleveland to support a good NFL team. All those ghettos along Euclid Avenue and on the west side are a pig stye. Half of the buildings downtown are empty and the rats will not even go into them. You call the Browns a relative, I call them a malignant stain on football and the NFL. The owner sucks, the GM sucks, the coach sucks, and all the players are useless. It takes real talent to assemble an organization like that. I think they did it deliberatly because the Browns Fans are not worthy enough for a decent team.
  23. josh m
    10. Posted by josh m Sat Nov 7 7:15pm EST

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    Mr. Common Sence. Whether you like the city or not is irrelevant. The fact that Cleveland host a football franchise is not the issue. Change the owner to someone who understands football and someone who can make a sound decision in hiring a front office that is credible. The fans here have been punished long enough by your so called "Common Sence" and if we want to spend our money to show support to something we love then that is our business. The browns are like a relative, I suppose if your wife was sick you would just turn your back and run away and tell the Dr. to pull the plug right? Why do you care so much about what the Browns are doing and what the fans are doing? You fail to show me that you are intelligent in any shape or form and honestly you are just an ass that needs to crawl in a hole and die because you sir are a misserable person. My Browns may suck, but they will never suck nearly as bad as you.
  24. Mr Common Sense
    9. Posted by Mr Common Sense Sat Nov 7 2:44pm EST

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    Hey Poster 6: Look weasel, If you do not like it, get of the blog. More and more are agreeing with me about the Browns / Cleveland. Poster number 9 is another convert!
  25. THE PILOT
    8. Posted by THE PILOT Sat Nov 7 2:18pm EST

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    I think it would be best if the Browns would forfeit the rest of the season and capitulate....
    Just get out of Cleveland ...
    Start from scratch or forget about Cleveland Football totally.
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