Rolling Stone slams Browns’ Mangini

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CLEVELAND (AP)—Even Rolling Stone is throwing rocks at Browns coach Eric Mangini.

In its latest issue, the iconic music magazine stepped outside its usual arena with a harsh critique of Mangini, comparing him to Augustus Gloop, the fictional overeater in Roald Dahl’s “Charlie and the Chocolate Factory” and calling his short coaching tenure in Cleveland “a sort of Hurricane Andrew of football mismanagement.”

Mangini, fired by the New York Jets in December, has become a target of abuse—much of it from outside Cleveland—for some of his decisions this season, most notably his handling of the Browns quarterbacks and excessive fines levied on players who break his rules.

The Browns are 1-5 with their only win a 6-3 decision over the Buffalo Bills on Oct. 11.

Long before Rolling Stone piled on, Mangini was being slammed for some of his coaching methods. He has fined players for not adhering to his policies— like parking in the wrong spot—and he slapped one unidentified player a $1,701 fine for failing to pay for a $3 bottle of water during a hotel stay.

Some players complained privately about the length of training camp practices and more hitting than some of them had experienced since high school. Mangini also has subjected players to pop quizzes during meetings, his way of making sure they are learning their playbook and about each other. He forced his rookies to take a 10-hour bus trip this summer to his football camp, and made his team practice outdoors in the rain.

Mangini won’t tolerate anyone not part of his program.

He traded playmaker Braylon Edwards(notes) to the Jets one day after the wide receiver allegedly punched a friend of NBA superstar LeBron James outside a Cleveland nightclub. Mangini has transformed Cleveland’s roster, bringing in 26 new players from last season, including 10 who played for him in New York last season.

One of them, linebacker David Bowens(notes), said Mangini is unfairly portrayed as tyrant.

“His office is always open,” Bowens said last week. “It’s not like it’s a total dictatorship around here.”

Rolling Stone writer Matt Taibbi went as far as saying the Browns have quit on Mangini in lopsided defeats, a charge many of Cleveland’s players dismissed after road losses to Denver and Baltimore.

Taibbi wrote: “In the NFL, if you don’t show your players that you have a plan that works, the T-minus to an on-field player revolt is usually about a month. In Cleveland, we’re there.”

Updated Oct 20, 2:32 pm EDT
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    HL W Thu Oct 22, 2009 01:55 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Rolling Stone writer Matt Taibbi
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    shirle Thu Oct 22, 2009 01:03 pm PDT Report Abuse
    big lynn---the baltimore effect??......you mean sneaking out of town in the middle of the night??...or did u mean go to columbus maryland??.......doesnt really matter.....im sure u arent a browns fan and i am more confident that u dont know the browns history as a team.....but thanks for the comments.....GOOOOOOOOO BROWNS........always a fan.......
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    Jonathan Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:35 pm PDT Report Abuse
    For those concerned about "liberal" punishments, you would do well to remember that the Browns are 1-5! And they look absolutely horrible. Not to mention, it is hard for a team to bond when their coach fines someone 1,000 dollars for a $3 dollar bottle.
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    CHARLES Thu Oct 22, 2009 04:40 am PDT Report Abuse
    My bosses (and most bosses in today's competitive workplace) make Mangini look like Tinkerbell. Its only when compared to the other catering, ass kissing coaches of these NFL spoiled brats that Mangini appears stern and dictatorial. I get paid anywhere from 1/3 to 1/20th of these prima donnas, and I'm told that at my "high" level of compensation, I should be busting my ass 12 hours or more per day and behaving above reproach, yet these millionaire babies think they should be able to perform well below the league standard, perform petty theft, and get into nightclub brawls, then be pitied that they are fined or traded. It's about time we held these athletes (whom many of our children admire and emulate) to the same standards as the rest of us. I thought the first word in professional athlete was" professional." Let's start expecting these guys to start behaving like the professional role models the claim to be. Kudos to Mangini for bringing back some discipline to the NFL and to pro sports in general!
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    Nicholas Wed Oct 21, 2009 07:30 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Dude,
    Being a transplanted Yankee in Tennessee, all I can say about 231 is....FINISH HIGH SCHOOL MORON!!! Don't come on here and spread your "the South will rise again" crap without consulting with an educated Southerner (yes, we do exist and not just from the North). You are the reason that people think we're all swinging banjo's and marrying in the family. "Ya'll" isn't REALLY a word, unless your using the Foxworthy dictionary. As far as I can tell, Yahoo has a built in spell checker that UNDERLINES misspells in RED (like G-R-A-M-M-A-R). So before you attempt to regain some respect lost in a different century, by people who quite frankly didn't deserve it, get your butt back to school (Grammar School, maybe) and finish the spelling lesson...and by the way, comments made about Obama (like him or not) from someone with your limited vernacular, only sound like you should be donning (yes, it's spelled correctly, don't get excited) a white hood. Thanks, your "Southern Gentleman" buddy.
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    Terry Wed Oct 21, 2009 06:19 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Mangini wasn't my choice either, but let's atleast give him a chance. As far as the discipline and Browns players, just deal with it. This liberal, he should not punish BS " is ridiculous. If they screw up they get fined, hell, that's life isn't it? Or lets just let them do anything and everthing they want (players) and then we'll end up with "nothing" but spoiled players who are more concerned about being yelled at, playing in the rain, etc., than playing football. Hey, it's Cleveland, we just want to win, whatever it takes, let's do it.
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    Big Lynn Wed Oct 21, 2009 04:58 pm PDT Report Abuse
    The Browns Suck, they just need to move down to Columbus and everything will work out for them. It's called the "Baltimore Effect"
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    B'BALL FREAK Wed Oct 21, 2009 04:25 pm PDT Report Abuse
    forgive my mispelling not!
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    B'BALL FREAK Wed Oct 21, 2009 04:21 pm PDT Report Abuse
    by the way. has anyone noticed that most head coaches in the nfl are better assistant coaches i.e. offensive or defensive coordinators and have no business being head coaches.
    but that is what the owners want now a days. (maybe spelled wrong, but hell i am not a rhodes scholar. are you?).
    tell me, do you think norv turner, wade phillips, mangini, etc. should be head coaches?
    they are great coordinators in their respective side of the football.
    i know this has nothing to do with this article, except that it pertains to mangini.
    has the art of being a head coach left the nfl.
    jerry jones fires jimmy johnson and runs bill parcells off pat bowlen fires mike shanahan and i don't know that dan snyder is doing.
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    B'BALL FREAK Wed Oct 21, 2009 04:21 pm PDT Report Abuse
    by the way. has anyone noticed that most head coaches in the nfl are better assistant coaches i.e. offensive or defensive coordinators and have no business being head coaches.
    but that is what the owners want now a days. (maybe spelled wrong, but hell i am not a rhodes scholar. are you?).
    tell me, do you think norv turner, wade phillips, mangini, etc. should be head coaches?
    they are great coordinators in their respective side of the football.
    i know this has nothing to do with this article, except that it pertains to mangini.
    has the art of being a head coach left the nfl.
    jerry jones fires jimmy johnson and runs bill parcells off pat bowlen fires mike shanahan and i don't know that dan snyder is doing.
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    B'BALL FREAK Wed Oct 21, 2009 04:09 pm PDT Report Abuse
    right on ronald s i bet if you used text messaging lingo they would understand you. but don't expect miracles from them.
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    B'BALL FREAK Wed Oct 21, 2009 04:05 pm PDT Report Abuse
    when jimmy johnson took over the cowboys in 1989 he said that every positon had to be won. then he put the 1st unit offense against the first unit defense in practice.
    even during the season if he did not like how they were playing he would use full contact practices as a way to motivate his players. do you think they liked it. NO!!!! but they were pros who wanted to win. and it worked.
    i guess in cleveland it is more important to be a bad, bickering, cry baby team instead of doing what is necessary to win. granted the fines are a bit much. but i think the coach is trying to teach them about how to beesponsible on and off the court.
    if they are accountable off the field they will be accountable on the field.
    EXCEPT IN CLEVELAND! EVIDENTLY!
    maybe the players need a raise so they can do their jobs.
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    B'BALL FREAK Wed Oct 21, 2009 04:05 pm PDT Report Abuse
    when jimmy johnson took over the cowboys in 1989 he said that every positon had to be won. then he put the 1st unit offense against the first unit defense in practice.
    even during the season if he did not like how they were playing he would use full contact practices as a way to motivate his players. do you think they liked it. NO!!!! but they were pros who wanted to win. and it worked.
    i guess in cleveland it is more important to be a bad, bickering, cry baby team instead of doing what is necessary to win. granted the fines are a bit much. but i think the coach is trying to teach them about how to beesponsible on and off the court.
    if they are accountable off the field they will be accountable on the field.
    EXCEPT IN CLEVELAND! EVIDENTLY!
    maybe the players need a raise so they can do their jobs.
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    Erika Wed Oct 21, 2009 03:52 pm PDT Report Abuse
    As far as practicing in the rain!!! They play in the rain at other facilities so why should they not practice in the rain?
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    Erika Wed Oct 21, 2009 03:50 pm PDT Report Abuse
    I like the way that he is training them! NFL stars think that just because they made it to the NFL they aren't supposed to get hit anymore. I think that it is definitely a wake up call to all the lazy NFL players. We pay for you to entertain us, so why don't you all start doing it. As far as the $3 bottle of water, don't think that it is okay for you to steal, because that is what you did Mr. Annonymous Player! If you were a regular person you would have been charged with theft! That is all I have to say about that. GET OF MANGINI'S JOCK!!!!
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    Rasputin Wed Oct 21, 2009 03:41 pm PDT Report Abuse
    this is fail on so many levels. rolling stone doesn't know jack about music nowadays so why would they try and write about the NFL. And Mangini is horrible. And Braylon isn't the "5th best WR" in the game.

    Browns are in need of an overhaul. I should know. I'm a Browns fan. This is Rolling Stone trying to jump on a bandwagon since the Olsen twins don't have any exciting ventures looming.
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    Paul Wed Oct 21, 2009 03:07 pm PDT Report Abuse
    dgilby post 223 - "Typical Rolling Stone getting involved in something other than music. Weak! "

    Yeah, Hunter S Thompson he was weak.
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    P Wed Oct 21, 2009 03:01 pm PDT Report Abuse
    #238. I appreciate someone with a good command of the English language. However, it's not grammer! It's Grammar. Here is part of a comment you wrote: this stupid ignorant hillbilly redneck has proved that you should. It's proven, not proved. So, before complaining about other people's grammar skills, check yours!
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    Paul Wed Oct 21, 2009 03:00 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Just about everyone reveres Vince Lombardi. Mangini is a cupcake compared to Vince. Vince wouldn't fine you if didn't do things his way - he would cut or trade you (unless you were Horning). Players were scared of the man. Lombardi must be laughing in his grave on how coaches and GMs have let the players take over the league. Being the good Jesuit that he was - he crushed their will and built them back up into a team. Not singular whiny overpaid prima donnas.

    Perhaps it is silly to compare the NFL today to 50 years ago but it still takes hard work and dedication to win - something both Mangini and Lombardi understood. A shame the Cleveland players seem to have forgotten that fact.
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    leonardmack Wed Oct 21, 2009 02:31 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Put it this way braylon edwards came out of michigan so you he dosnt play around.. and with the start that eric mangini had last year with the jets they shoulda been in the super bowl but he dosnt know how to coach all stars thats why he traded the 5th best wide reciever in the nfl.
    1- randy moss
    2-brandon marshal
    3-terrel owens
    4-larry fitzgearld
    5-braylon edwards
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    Ronald S Wed Oct 21, 2009 02:22 pm PDT Report Abuse
    Hey all you bloggers on this page I've got something to say. I've been reading nothing but yall talking mess to each other and nothing relative to the story. Also you people have been doing nothing except talking about grammer and how you should talk yet you should be going back to school and learning how to spell because it seems none of you know how. All you damn Yankees want to talk about us southern people and call us ignorant hillbillies and stupid rednecks yet it seems that this stupid ignorant hillbilly redneck has proved that you should just leave the grammer, spelling, and proper english to us more refined southern gentlemen and ladies. This mainly means you poster 231, for it seems you can't even spell " Warrior" when you wrote " Road Warrier". Damn and you people say you are the smart ones guess that explains why all you dumbass yankees voted for that idiot OBAMA.
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    John C Wed Oct 21, 2009 01:45 pm PDT Report Abuse
    I just fell in love with rolling stone magazine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....i love the quote of david bowens " his office is always open...it is not a total dictatorship".....wow!!!!!!!!!!....it is not a total dictatorship, it is a 99% dictatorship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....when rod hood was cut his quote was " during training camp you could not even go to the bathroom without being fined"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...the fat rat bastard reign has begun and he will be brought down when it is all over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1...he is a terrible evaluator of talent, terrible on draft day, and this team or organization has no future at all whatsoever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.......good luck klowns and take fat rat bastard with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....they are going down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
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    Marcus Junius Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:49 am PDT Report Abuse
    my doo doo smells like oatmeal
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    stephen Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:02 am PDT Report Abuse
    "Your grammar is far worst than the Browns season."

    You probably meant "far worse".
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    JoeN Wed Oct 21, 2009 09:22 am PDT Report Abuse
    You all make fun of hillbilies at some time in your life, but my God where did you all go to school? Your grammar is far worst than the Browns season. GO BROWNIES before I die they might win a championship or a game I'll settle for either.

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