Jay Cutler says Bears’ problems go beyond O-line

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LAKE FOREST, Ill. (AP)—Jay Cutler(notes) was sore and a bit black and blue.

He ran five times for 32 yards but absorbed four sacks and spent plenty of time also running for cover in the Chicago Bears’ 30-6 win over the Cleveland Browns on Sunday. One hit caused him to bite his tongue, leaving him with a bloody mouth.

The Bears certainly took a beating during the win, particularly the guy behind center who also happens to carry the franchise’s long-term hopes in his right arm. Cutler’s been on the move all season, and the guy he hands off to, Matt Forte(notes), has looked more like a tackling dummy than someone who ran for more than 1,200 yards as a rookie last year.

This wasn’t what Chicago envisioned after retooling the offensive line in the offseason, but Cutler wasn’t about to lash out at the guys who are paid to protect him. The Bears’ offense ranks 20th heading into this week’s game against Arizona, and the problems go beyond the line.

“It’s a mixed bag,” Cutler said Wednesday. “I’ve got to get rid of the ball. We’ve got to throw our hot (routes). It takes more than just the offensive line blocking. It’s all 11 guys. We’re in it together.”

At the moment, there’s plenty of room to improve even if the Bears’ line is nowhere near the bottom statistically.

Twenty-one teams have allowed more sacks than Chicago (11) and the 30 quarterback hits ranks 15th. They reshuffled their rotation last week with Josh Beekman(notes) starting at left guard over Frank Omiyale(notes), yet the results weren’t promising.

An ugly win did nothing to ease concerns brought on by back-to-back losses, including a 45-10 thumping at Cincinnati the previous week. There were problems in the red zone, where Chicago converted just two of seven trips inside the 20 into touchdowns, and problems keeping the quarterback on his feet.

The Bears allowed four sacks against a Browns team that ranked dead last defensively entering the game and, a few flashes aside, they didn’t get much from the running game, either. How much Cutler and Forte are to blame for that is open to debate, but the line is certainly receiving its share of attention.

“I think it’s sometimes blown out of proportion,” offensive coordinator Ron Turner said. “We give up four sacks and everyone says the line gave up four sacks. The line did not necessarily give up four sacks. When you get a sack, it can be the quarterback, the receiver, the tight end. It can be the running back. There are a lot of people who can be responsible for that.”

One problem for the Bears is they didn’t have young players ready to step in when the line was at its best a few years ago. They’ve drafted just two linemen in the first five rounds over the past seven years, taking Beekman in the fourth round in 2007 and going with Chris Williams(notes) in the first round in 2008.

That’s forced them to fill in the gaps through free agency or trades, a formula that worked in the past but has yet to pay dividends this season.

They thought they found solutions in the offseason when they acquired Omiyale and likely Hall of Famer Orlando Pace(notes), but that also knocked players out of their comfort zones.

With Pace at left tackle, Williams is biding time on the right side. Omiyale, a more natural tackle, had to move to guard, and the line hasn’t responded.

Cutler, meanwhile, sees teams using more blitzes and more gimmick defenses that have turned him into a quarterback on the run.

Not exactly what the Bears need if they want their franchise player to remain healthy.

Updated Nov 5, 4:53 am EST
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  1. Ironman 2
    36. Posted by Ironman 2 Sat Nov 7 10:42am EST

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    The question becomes, how bad does the offensive line want to win. How bad does the secondary want to win. How good is our running game going to be. How many injuries are going to effect our starters this season. Cutler certainly hasn't shown his colors, and its not all his fault. The offensive line has got to protect him and give him time to look at his receivers. He has some good targets, I don't think any of the receivers are playing bad. The offensive line is the key. Forte can't penetrate because of the offensive line. Cutler can't hit a receiver because of the offensive line. He took a beating last week.

    To beat Arizona, we have to double team in the secondary and force them to run. Warner will have a field day otherwise. We have to run the ball and pick up third down yardage. The offensive line needs to get off its butt and have a great game to win. There it is. No mystery.

    Come on Bears, put it on the line. You need it.
  2. CaliChiBearfanIke
    35. Posted by CaliChiBearfanIke Fri Nov 6 4:32pm EST

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    DonaldM you have made a valid point concerning the "O line sucking"! However I disagree with your QB and RB statements! The sole purpose and responsibility of the Off line is to block period! Cutlers job is pass and get the ball to the WRs but he can't do it when he keeps landing on his ass because of the piss poor performance of the line! He is not being payed for his legs though its nice to have a QB that can scramble but he is being beaten up back there and hopefully can survive the season! Granted some of his INTs have hurt but he is simply trying to make plays and as the leader of the offense he has taken on the burden which reflects his numbers! And the Bears don't need a RB, Forte is a good enough player and proved it last year. He is a heckuva a talent, run, block, and catch and no way should we give up on this guy. He needs people to block. Alot of the past RBs all had lines and wouldn't be HoF if they didn't have a decent line in front of them. This sucks as a Bear fan because we have a once in a lifetime QB in Cutler and a 1000 yard RB in Forte and we cant block for them! This line needs to gel fast or this season is gonna slip away and the players are 1 year older! Go Bears!!!!
  3. donald m
    34. Posted by donald m Fri Nov 6 11:29am EST

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    the bears o-line sucks because they are not stuffiest enough 2 get the job done hey this is not college football the is professional football .. they just let 2 many people like a linebacker just run right pass them untouched and let the Rb get hit … but the QB need 2 run with the ball more because of his long legs …. he need 2 become a scrambler and he will help the bears without being a stilling duck on the pass play ,,, the o-line holds pretty well … but not well enough 4 the QB 2 pass down field … they haven't gelled enough 2 know each other but pace need 2 know is position more he made critical mistake after mistakes after another and he a pro bowler making rookie mistakes the same this happen when … “sorry” O.J. Simpson was with buffalo and the new coach saw this happening and hey Line-men !!! if you don’t block …. we don’t need you !!! …. Plus the need a new running backs … so the bears need 2 pick up a satiety in the off season and get some new running backs because this next draft RB’s are excellent this year
  4. CaliChiBearfanIke
    33. Posted by CaliChiBearfanIke Thu Nov 5 11:34pm EST

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    I think its fair to say to all us Bears fans that with the pre season expectation hype that we were all hopeing that our chit chats would be about making reservations for Super Bowl talk etc. But the writing is on the wall.I have to agree with many off the complaints about Coach Turner and the drafting only 2 lineman, knowing Tait, Miller and Brown were all nearing the end and now this team is suffering thru the reprocusions of some terrible drafting and lack of progress from the 1st rd picks. Someone help me out here but is Brian (2000) the only 1st Rd payoff that has been successful? Its a shame the, Terrel 01, Benson 05, Grossman, and Haynes 03 picks set the franchise back a little while the jury is still out on Tommie 04 (consistency), Olsen 07, and Williams 08. Whats frustrating for me is seeing some of our past picks making a reasonable impact with other teams. The Colombo 02 kid I do believe is playing for the Cowboys! Berrian 04 on the hated Vikings! No secret what Cedric did and is doing for Cincy along with Tank Johnson and Bobby Wade 03, Justin Gage 03, Mark Bradley 05, Chris Harris 05 to name a few. This franchise shouldn't be somebodys minor league system for other NFL teams to succeed but these 1st rnd picks need to start producing Pro Bowl caliber years if this team is to take it up a notch! I think the Bears lack of help between the 2001 and 2005 years is paying its toll today. Chicago picked the wrong Michigan man by passing on S. Hutchinson in 01 and I mentioned the Colombo pick in 02! It sure would've been nice having Polamula instead of Haynes in 03 but Peanut and Lance were 2nd and 3rd picks that year so all was not lost! Tommie and Vasher are the only holdovers from the 04 draft and there are no 05 picks on the team unless we consider Orton who brought Cutler to the team. While the Bears had no 1st rnd pick in the 2006 draft I did not include that as a loss because the players taken from the 2nd round on have made impacts. Danielle Manning, Hester, J Williams and Mark Anderson and I cannot forgot Alex Brown a 4th rounder I think in 01 or 02! I think this team needs to committ and go out and sign the best O-line coach out there or Jay wont be making it to the end of his contract. This Bears team and organization is too talented with there history and tradition to just barely making it. Go Bears!!!!
  5. RAMON A
    32. Posted by RAMON A Thu Nov 5 6:31pm EST

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    o line??!!! are problems havent even begun. our defensive ends arent getting any younger, or pressure for that matter. our probowl dt (tommie harris) is always hurt or playing injured. i have a feeling if we spent all our picks this coming draft on offense, wed have a great offense next year, but a bad defense and that would have to get fixed the following year.
  6. James
    31. Posted by James Thu Nov 5 4:31pm EST

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    The Bears took a pass on Alan Faneca in free agency. Huge mistake. Now we are looking at YEARS trying to build an OL.
  7. frmrcoalmnr
    30. Posted by frmrcoalmnr Thu Nov 5 4:00pm EST

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    knight157 you are exactly right... Ron Turner doesn't have, what it takes to be in the NFL.. He doesn't even have what it takes to be in college football.. If I remember correctly he suck while he was with the U of I.
  8. Judge Leo
    29. Posted by Judge Leo Thu Nov 5 3:05pm EST

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    It's Cutler! Watch the difference in how quickly he comes away with the ball on pass plays vs run plays. You can't WALK back to hand off the ball and expect Forte to get to the line before the defense! If the crybaby can't make a quick hand off then pitch the ball and give the run game a chance. I'm sure the opposing defense has read this on film and that's the reason the Bears stink - it's Cutler!
  9. Robert B
    28. Posted by Robert B Thu Nov 5 2:49pm EST

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    I think they still have our #1 next year.
  10. Jason
    27. Posted by Jason Thu Nov 5 2:29pm EST

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    What draft picks did the Bears trade away to get Cutler? Was it a #1 and #3? I cant remember.
  11. Kurtis A
    26. Posted by Kurtis A Thu Nov 5 2:00pm EST

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    Everything Jerry Angelo has done since the 2006 Superbowl run has be REACTIVE and not PROACTIVE.

    The Bears brought in Reuben Brown, Fred Miller, John Tait, etc. to anchor the O-Line with Olin Kreutz. Those guys were at their peak during that time. The defense and special teams was in place, but there was no running game or quarterback. Angelo really believed that Cedric Benson and Rex Grossman could be an incredibly talented tandem that would last at least a decade. We see how that turned out.

    So, he makes the Cutler trade and signs Orlando Pace in order to get things back on track, meanwhile his O-Line has fallen apart. It's an endless cycle of "What do we need now" instead of "What will make us successful in the future."
  12. Robert B
    25. Posted by Robert B Thu Nov 5 1:16pm EST

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    What are going to use to draft with? We've traded away our good picks.
  13. Robert B
    24. Posted by Robert B Thu Nov 5 1:16pm EST

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    What are going to use to draft with? We've traded away our good picks.
  14. fireguy
    23. Posted by fireguy Thu Nov 5 11:43am EST

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    Well, at least we know what were going to be drafting next year, O-Line and Receivers, some of them have got to stick right?
  15. bearsfan
    22. Posted by bearsfan Thu Nov 5 10:57am EST

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    only drafting 2 o-linemen in the first 5 rounds in the last 7 years? what do you expect? they should of drafted them back when the line was good to show them how to be good. now they go after bench players and has beens to do the job. good job on getting Cutler but that was the ONLY good move of the off season, stop the bargain hunting at the dollar store!
  16. Robert B
    21. Posted by Robert B Thu Nov 5 10:29am EST

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    8. Posted by Robert B Thu Oct 1 6:06am EDT Report Abuse
    You know it's funny that when the quarterbacks radio goes out and the Qb still performs like Griese did two years ago in the final two minutes of a game. Turner is always mentioned, like he did something. Nothing is said how Cutler called the plays and how good HIS decision making was. Yet, when Cutler is hung out to dry in Green Bay, he's on his own. Cutler screwed up. No mention of Turner's play calling there. The Bears have spent the last five years covering up for this guy. Fire Turner today.


    I posted that a couple of weeks ago and stand by it, only add Lovey's name and the whole front office including the McCaskeys names to it. I was always an Orton fan, but Cutler is going to get himself in Turners dog house if he talks bad about Ron. That will make me a Cutler fan and Cutler a team leader. He had better talk up soon before he is in traction. Bring back Rivera also. His defense only got us to the Super Bowl.
  17. <i>knight157</i>
    20. Posted by knight157 Thu Nov 5 10:05am EST

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    Ron is the problem and everyone can see it but the one person that matters: Angelo. I respect Angelo for going out and getting a QB, but now it's time to get rid of Ron Turner, bring in Mike Shannahan and get things rolling. If Lovie can't get his ship right by the end of next season, after bringing in Shannahan, then let him take the reigns.

    Something has to change and bringing in Rod Marinelli (the only person to go without a win in a season) was more damage than anything. The players are playing to what the coaches are calling, and Da Bears Red Zone offense should be proof enough that Turner and Co. need to go! Don't blame young receivers and tight ends on what YOUR line needs to be doing.
  18. <i>bears_34_40</i>
    19. Posted by bears_34_40 Thu Nov 5 9:58am EST

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    I have to agree that Ron Turner is a BIG problem and should be handed his walkin papers....
  19. Jew
    18. Posted by Jew Thu Nov 5 8:09am EST

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    maybe if we had a new OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR - RON TURNER IS THE REAL PROBLEM!!!!! he sucks sooooooooooooooooooooo bad!!!!!

    the o-line needs to improve yes...........but the play calling is God Awful!!! 1st & 10 - oh i know EXACTLY what the Bears will do - RUN.......yes i know we are a run team, but mix it up a little bit we are so predictable it makes me sick

    MIX IT UP!!!!!!!!
  20. Max_Powers
    17. Posted by Max_Powers Thu Nov 5 7:19am EST

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    AD is Peterson's real nickname.
  21. big lou
    16. Posted by big lou Thu Nov 5 5:18am EST

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    Adrian Peterson's initials are AP not AD.
  22. <i>paytonrip3499</i>
    15. Posted by paytonrip3499 Tue Oct 6 12:08pm EDT

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    First of all, you wouldn't do crap to me.

    Second, if you want to have a decent conversation don't try to make your point with a fouol mouthed insult, it just makes you look stupid.

    Also, try a spell checker.

    It's hard to take someone seriously when they can't spell "defense."

    Make it easy on yourself and just call it "D."

    Now that we are done with the nonsense.

    Forte sure didn't look hurt when he was running the 61 yards on his first carry or the 37 yards on his last. Forte is every bit of 6'3" and he lumbers when he runs. He takes shorter steps negotiating the hole and then he strides when he hits the open field. I think his 40 time was 4.5, so he is not a burner.

    What happened to AD last night? Guess what? The same EXACT thing that happened to Forte when they played the Packers. Both managed 25 carries for 55 yards, a 2.2 ypc.

    Are you going to complain that Peterson is injured or is a bust? There were no holes for either to run against GB, end of story. The 3-4 is difficult to run against and that is why teams use it, Having 4 LBs, they can always shoot gaps. In a 4-3 NFL teams try to put 2 massive guys as DT to make it hard to run inside forcing them to run towards the ends where they will have OLB support.

    BTW, after last night your "Mr. Power and Speed" leads the NFL in fumbles over the last 3 years. You have never seen Forte have the ball ripped from his arms and taken for a TD. Forte has one fumble on the strip from behind by Harrison in the Steelers game, but Olsen recovered it.

    AGAIN, AD only rushed for 92 yards against the Lions on turf, is AD hurt? IT"S THE O-LINE.
  23. <i>paytonrip3499</i>
    14. Posted by paytonrip3499 Sun Oct 4 8:23pm EDT

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    Bernard


    Just another useless post from you. I do know one thing, if you spoke with that foul mouth to my face, your balls would be in your mouth.

    Forte ran for 121 yards on grass against the Lions. Your beloved Adrian Peterson managed just 92 yards against them on turf.

    Why don't you stick to another sport, because it is clear you don't know football.
  24. <i>paytonrip3499</i>
    13. Posted by paytonrip3499 Thu Oct 1 11:55pm EDT

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    WOW Bernard, what a bunch of facts. What does Soto have to do with the NFL, terrible comparison???

    Forte had the 3rd best EVER rookie season in NFL history for a RB. He was 36% of the offense for Chicago last year. Which is higher than the SUPPOSED BUILT FOR POWER AND SPEED Adrian Peterson did for the Vikings. Go back and look at Walter Payton's first year. Yeah it was about 1,000 yards less rushing and receiving than Forte's rookie year was. Forte is off to a slow start and it is the O-line that is the cause. No RB is going to make a difference if there aren't holes. Forte run hard and knows how to be patient for blocking to develop on a play. He will prosper if the blocking improves, but if they don't he or anyone else back there is going to struggle. Being 28th in rushing after playing @GB, vs PIT, and @ Seattle isn't a surprise. After playing those three games and saying Forte is a bust is just ridiculous.
  25. J G
    12. Posted by J G Thu Oct 1 2:19pm EDT

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    Will any football "journalist" ever have the stones to call out 'playa hatah' Olin Kruetz? He gets blown off the ball virtually every running play for three years now, and everyone looks around trying to find a way to blame Cedric Benson and/or Matt Forte or any of the other offensive linemen besides Ole' Kruetz.

    Time to hang em up Olin, and time for Chicago's beat reporters to start calling him out on his lousy play.
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