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You know what I like about the NFL's overtime system? It's still football. The same things you've been doing for the last 60 minutes, you're going to have to continue to do if you want to win. It's not some bastardized form of the game, like we see in hockey or college football.

Never in a football game does anyone just hand you the football at the opponent's 25-yard-line. You've got to earn it. You've got to force a turnover at that part of the field, you'll need a big special teams play, or you'll have to drive the ball down there. That's how it goes.

At no point will anyone ever pat you on the head and say, "Hey there, Timmy! Would you like to be knocking on the door of the opponent's red zone? Follow me, special friend!" That's not football, that's charity. That's something they'd do in a pee-wee league game if the sad and pathetic team couldn't score. Don't let it near the NFL.

Now, at the same time, I'll admit that the current overtime system isn't perfect. I think it's good. Not great, not perfect ... but good. The NFL's competition committee is looking at a potential rule change this week.

I see it like Tony Dungy sees it. Regardless of the coin toss, if you want to win, your team's going to have to play good football, be it offensively or defensively.

My one issue with the current system is that it's a little too easy to play for a field goal. If you get a decent kick return, you're looking at maybe 30 or so yards before you can get your kicker in range. I'd rather see an honest drive, and if a team has to settle for a field goal, so be it, but rarely in the course of a football game does a team make it their goal to get three.

How do we accomplish that? Eight-minute overtime. Eight minutes, and no timeouts for either side. Here's why eight's my number. I want to avoid the games getting too long, so I don't want to see a full quarter. Eight's a little over halfway.

More importantly, eight minutes is also about the unofficial cut-off for "Damn, that was a long drive." If your defense can't get the other team off the field in eight minutes, you don't deserve a possession. At the very least, I feel more comfortable telling a team they don't deserve a possession under those circumstances than I would telling a team they don't deserve a possession because they let Peyton Manning gain 35 yards on a drive and get into field goal range.

I don't think eight minutes asks a defense to do anything too spectacular. And if they can't handle it, the offense is going to get a chance.

And after eight minutes, if no one has scored, then we go to another coin flip for sudden death, or we just call it a tie. Really, what's so bad about a tie? Ties are interesting. They shake up the standings a little bit. I don't think there's anything wrong with a good tie every now and then.

But if you're a tie-hater, I guess I can understand that, and we'll accommodate you by adding the sudden death overtime back on to the top of the eight-minute overtime. You lose then, and you don't get to complain, because you had your chance in the eight-minute overtime.

To me, if the competition committee insists on discussing this, those are the two options: set a fixed amount of time for an overtime to last, or leave things as they are. Please do not give us a gimmicky, stat-inflating, unnatural deal like they have in college football.

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  1. JohnnyFootballHero
    1. Posted by JohnnyFootballHero Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:57 pm EDT

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    how about they just play until the guy who's ball it is has to go home for dinner?
  2. YS
    2. Posted by YS Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:29 pm EDT

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    Are you crazy???
    The college overtime rules are perfect..........
    This article is completely garbage
  3. Will
    3. Posted by Will Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:25 pm EDT

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    I don't like the college football system either. The discussed change I've liked best is moving the ball forward for the kickoff, making a touchback and worse starting position more likely. And that's if there is any change at all. Maybe the system could use some tweaking, but it doesn't need re-engineering.
  4. Earl of Funk
    4. Posted by Earl of Funk Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:30 pm EDT

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    Ties suck....just ask the Eagles
  5. POGUE MAHONE
    5. Posted by POGUE MAHONE Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:32 pm EDT

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    Just have the kickers go out and start from the 30 and kick
    The first kicker to miss that team lost. Then kickers will get more respect ....lmao...who am I kidding..lol.
    Just kidiing about the kicking thing.
    Just play a 5th quarter and keep going if no ones ahead after that .
    The college OT needs to stay in college,this is the same groupe that cant even get the ranking right . BCS = BSC.
  6. Koos
    6. Posted by Koos Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:53 pm EDT

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    What about first team to six points wins? That adds some risk assessment/strategy/coach-calls-we-can-all-second-guess-in-hindsight-come-Monday-morning to settling for the 3 (if a team's D is weak, their opponent might take it to the house), and at the same time that increases the odds of both team's O getting the ball which eliminates a lot of the luck problem people have with the coin toss.
    Personally, the more I think about this, the more I like sudden death at six better than just sudden death.
    But while we're on the subject of potential NFL rule changes, why do we still have extra point kicks? Soooooo boring. Plus there's a commercial break bookending it, and, really? How many have actually been blocked. I say the +1 is a gimme and if you take the risk and go for more you get +3, not +2, if you get in. Or maybe you have to go for +2, and if you don't get it you get -2?
  7. Lotus
    7. Posted by Lotus Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:57 pm EDT

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    I disagree with the 8-minute idea. It will still favor the first team with the ball in many cases, especially if the first team with the ball uses large portions of the clock and leaves little time for the second team.
    The problem with the college system is that it favors the second team with the ball. The second team knows that a field goal will be enough or that they must go for it on 4th down because they have to have a touchdown. The first team with the ball does not have this luxury of knowledge.
    I favor the proposal in which the kickoff in overtime is from the 40 yard line, not the 30. This will require the first team with the ball to drive longer. Then the game is won or lost more honestly.
  8. ctkmusic
    8. Posted by ctkmusic Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:12 pm EDT

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    are you the same guy who proposed the flag football tourney in for the Pro-Bowl? you got some really good ideas
  9. Blackearth
    9. Posted by Blackearth Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:08 pm EDT

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    Radio host Fred Hupner in Chicago suggested a "4 points needed to win" rule for the overtime period. If a team gets the ball first and scores a TD, game over. But if they have to settle for 3, then the other team gets a chance. It's still football, and adds quite a bit of strategy to the overtime period.
  10. Scott E
    10. Posted by Scott E Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:34 pm EDT

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    I would like to see the 8 minute deal as proposed with the following;
    move kick-off up 10 yards and don't allow a field goal attempt on a team's first possession
    This way the offense has to go for a TD on the first drive almost ensuring (unless the other team plays really bad D and therefore deserves to lose) that both teams will get at least one offensive possession.
  11. bill b
    11. Posted by bill b Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:47 pm EDT

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    yeah, the first to 4 (or 6) is probably the rule change that would satisfy the most people's complaints about overtime.
    It's still natural football as it was played in the first 4 quarters, it rewards good defense, and it makes kicking important, but not the most important thing in the world, like it is now.
    One quarter, 2 timeouts each, and if it ends in a tie, it's a damn tie.
  12. YourOpinionSucksTryMine
    12. Posted by YourOpinionSucksTryMine Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:33 pm EDT

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    Right now, the team that wins the coin toss wins the game at least 70% of the time. Most of those are lame field goals. If the game was close (and it was if the score is tied), then the fourth quarter was probably the most exciting part of the game. I like essentially adding another period, I was thinking more like ten minutes which would be similar strategy to the fourth quarter. I would even have a timeout per team. The team with the most points wins, in case of a tie, the team who scored first wins (same as now, but you play out the rest of the period). If neither team scores, then call it a tie and go home because the game was probably lame anyway.
    If the first team can only pull in a field goal. The second team has to do better to stay in the game, because a tie doesn't cut it. More complicated, but more fun to watch.
  13. TomMorgan
    13. Posted by TomMorgan Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:25 pm EDT

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    I THINK THE SOLUTION TO THIS IS QUIET SIMPLE!. The team that doesn't win the coin flip has a chance to reply . End of story!. This way teams one just settle for a field goal because the other team can score a touchdown. And if they are tied after 10 minutes then you declare the game tied. And that's it. As usual the simple solution turns out to be the BEST.
  14. Greg W
    14. Posted by Greg W Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:13 pm EDT

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    This is a brilliant proposal. Another quarter does make the game too long, 8-10 minutes of additional play would be perfect. It keeps teams from losing on a short drive and a field goal. Any additional rules would be, as MJD said, bastardizing the game. A no field goal on first drive rule? No way. If you lose by a field goal in 8 minutes, you deserved it. Play some defense. Great idea, MJD.
  15. LinktheAdept
    15. Posted by LinktheAdept Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:10 pm EDT

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    Ties are like kissing your sister.
  16. Don Squeek
    16. Posted by Don Squeek Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:14 pm EDT

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    How about instead of chaging overtime the NFL looks at possiably playing an 18 week schedule? Either way if they change how overtime works at least make it so there can't be a tie. Baseball should have ties, thats a kids activity where everyone needs to feel like a winner.
  17. Earl of Funk
    17. Posted by Earl of Funk Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:30 pm EDT

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    Let's ask Donovan McNabb what he thinks.........{smiles}
  18. Older_than_Moses_Shaq
    18. Posted by Older_than_Moses_Shaq Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:56 pm EDT

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    If a team wins the coin flip and scores, the other team should be allowed to answer that score by receiving a kickoff. If they can't, game over. Once they've both had a chance to be on offense, the first team to score wins. Seems pretty simple to me.
  19. The Unsilent Majority
    19. Posted by The Unsilent Majority Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:01 pm EDT

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    I completely agree that the normal sudden-death overtime has to go, as it usually comes down to whatever team wins the coin toss winning the game. If that's what the competition committee has in mind, they can just have whoever wins the coin toss at the beginning of the game win and they can all go home. 8 minutes for overtime sounds entirely reasonable.
  20. TNFootballFan
    20. Posted by TNFootballFan Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:33 pm EDT

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    I like the idea of first to 6. It shouldn't take too long but then again it does kind of change the fundamental scoring of the game. I say leave it alone.
  21. Mac Attack
    21. Posted by Mac Attack Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:48 pm EDT

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    Why not just have one possession each? If a team scores a FG the other must score a touchdown to win or a FG to tie. No continuous OT, just one each.
  22. ChrisR
    22. Posted by ChrisR Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:27 pm EDT

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    I would make it a 10-minute period for regular and postseason games, with one timeout per side. The game ends in a tie in the regular season, but in playoff games, the current possession would carry over to a sudden death 2nd OT period. That way, coin flips deciding games are totally eliminated.
  23. LostinJersey
    23. Posted by LostinJersey Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:25 pm EDT

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    you give each team one possession to score as many points as they can. if you fumble, or throw an INT, or punt your possession is over. if the score is tied after wards go to sudden death. you still do the coin flip to decide who gets the ball first. and the max play time for OT would be 15 minutes. if the first team throws a pick six then the other team needs to either run the time out or get at least a filed goal or prevent a return for a TD after punting.
  24. Scott E
    24. Posted by Scott E Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:34 pm EDT

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    I say leave it as it is, but in overtime make the kickers dress like Mango from SNL. Oh, did I share too much... lol
  25. Jay M
    25. Posted by Jay M Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:23 pm EDT

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    i think it would be cool if a touchdown was required. no field goals allowed. that way, there is no settling for a field goal. your team either scores or doesn't. it would lead to some interesting play calls on 4th down from the 20 yard line.

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