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Okay, so maybe it wasn't really Bill Parcells. But if you're an NFL prospect, and you get an out-of-the-blue friend request on MySpace or Facebook from a comely young lady, there could be a sweaty 50-year-old NFL scout behind it.

Teams are actually doing this. If there's a tiny little bit of information about your character that can be gleaned from your Facebook page, they want to know about it. Even if it means a little bit of dishonesty. Charles Robinson wrote a fantastic piece about the practice yesterday. Here's a snippet:

“It works like magic,” said a personnel source that was familiar with his team’s tactic of using counterfeit profiles to link to Facebook and Myspace pages of potential draft picks. The source directed Yahoo! Sports to one of the team’s “ghost profiles” – a term he coined because “once the draft is over, they disappear. It’s like they were never there.”

The practice may have an underhanded, back-alley feel to it, but most NFL teams are unapologetic when it comes to picking through the lives of prospective players. And with the tentacles of the Internet extending further than ever into the lives of athletes, online information has offered a wealth of fresh ammunition for teams. Whether it’s networking sites like Facebook, Myspace or Twitter, personal blogs, or just the random bits of information that can be found with an hour of free time and a powerful Internet search engine, NFL teams are gleefully delving into new cracks and corners that didn’t exist even a decade ago.

Unbelievable. Not just in a "technology keeps creeping deeper and deeper into everything" kind of way, but also in a "that's a huge moral gray area" way.

It brings up so many questions. If a guy hasn't learned by now that it's a bad idea to put incriminating information about himself on the internet, can you have too much sympathy for him? How deep into a guy's personal life should an NFL scout be allowed to go? Should we be okay with the blatant dishonesty?

If a team's willing to prey on a young man's love of the ladies in order to gain access to his Facebook page via a fake picture, how far are they willing to go? Is there really that much of a difference between that and hiring a woman to approach a guy in a bar, and see what he'll confess to her? See what kind of activities he'll engage in? See if he might be the kind of guy at risk for fathering thirty-seven children with thirty-seven different women? I see these as legitimate questions.

On the other hand, teams do what they feel like they have to do. If they're investing that much money in a guy, and the guy's been coached by an agent on how to answer every possible question he might get, then maybe they don't have a choice but to go that deep. I don't know.

Again, it's just a huge, huge moral gray area.

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  1. an-8-year-old
    1. Posted by an-8-year-old Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:38 pm EDT

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    Travis Henry's gonads were unavailable for comment.
  2. B.A.
    2. Posted by B.A. Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:01 pm EDT

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    Heck Bellidick been doing this for many years including using cameras too. No big deal Im sure Goofdell will cover it up ..I mean send a letter out if it gets to bad.
  3. Mike R
    3. Posted by Mike R Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:46 pm EDT

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    It's pretty standard now for Human Resource types and other employers to check on their employees' social networking pages. Why should sports organizations be exempt from this?
  4. B.A.
    4. Posted by B.A. Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:01 pm EDT

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    I agree with Mike R.
  5. Simon M
    5. Posted by Simon M Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:05 pm EDT

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    Guys, 'checking' someone's publicly accessible social networking page is one thing. Creating a fictitious person in order to gain access to someone's private profile is another thing altogether. It most definitely is against Facebook's terms of use that's for sure, a huge moral gray area as MJD said, and it even borders on fraud.
  6. squirrelyearl
    6. Posted by squirrelyearl Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:37 pm EDT

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    The thing I don't like about this is creating these ghost profiles. I mean why not just have some star player from the team or one of the coaches add him and check things out through that? Not to mention as well, I don't know about MySpace's standards, but creating fake accounts is typically considered a violation of the terms of use agreement. I think there is some leeway in that standard, but I wouldn't think this meets that deal.
  7. B.A.
    7. Posted by B.A. Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:01 pm EDT

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    DT Tank Johnson agrees to contract with Bengals --
    Doesnt have anything to do with story,but HAVENT THE BUNGALS LEARNED ANYTHING ?
  8. Johnny Appleseed
    8. Posted by Johnny Appleseed Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:39 pm EDT

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    ...In that same breath, cops use ghost-profiles to catch pedophiles.
    The (moral) difference? Huge.
    The (concept) difference? Really, none at all.
  9. Scott
    9. Posted by Scott Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:56 pm EDT

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    This is when scouting gets out of control. Stick to the game film fellas!!!
    http://www.theklowntimes.net
  10. Dan S
    10. Posted by Dan S Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:28 pm EDT

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    How do the scouts know they aren't checking out fake profiles of players made by fans or haters.
  11. Scott E
    11. Posted by Scott E Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:34 pm EDT

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    I'm not sure this is a moral issue, but it certainly is unethical and hypocritical. You are basically saying that we are willing to stoop to uncharted lows to "trap" information that may or may not be real (faked by person or fan/hater as someone said above). On the other hand, if you are 20 some years old and haven't figured out that almost any info you put on the internet is public, you can't complain.
    The pressures of competition and the size of the investment are false gods. You are still basically lying.
  12. Scott E
    12. Posted by Scott E Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:34 pm EDT

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    Also, I loved the title to your post MJD, but Bill Parcells was the wrong guy to use. He would have shown up at the guy's house in pumps and a blond wig. Seriously, he's one straight forward dude.
  13. Dustin Dawind
    13. Posted by Dustin Dawind Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:42 pm EDT

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    What's gray about the moral area? It's clearly dishonest. Do I blame them for doing it? Not at all. They aren't trying to ruin the guy's life, just decide whether or not they want to offer him millions of dollars. Besides, everyone lies online. This just in... my name isn't really Dustin Dawind!
  14. daddymag
    14. Posted by daddymag Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:34 pm EDT

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    Hey ho. I have been hit up by fake chicks on facebook, just trying to get me to sign up for crap. Use your brain, spot a fake. Although I suppose I am not a BMOC with tons of undergrad chicks tryin' to get with me just to smell the cash... not too hard to spot a fakie if she comes after me. Just sayin'.
  15. Jay Mac
    15. Posted by Jay Mac Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:29 pm EDT

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    Has the start of Baseball "Shutdown" the "Corner"......lol..lol..lol..lol..lol..lol.
    Thank You, Thank You, I'll be here all week, tip your waiter, and try the veal.
  16. pwingf
    16. Posted by pwingf Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:23 pm EDT

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    who cares? It's brilliant, it's not illegal, there's millions of dollars at stake. Unfortunately, our standards have changed in this country when it comes to big money. If you don't play the game, you end up losing, and this is all about winning for these guys, hands down.
  17. Scott E
    17. Posted by Scott E Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:34 pm EDT

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    pwing - I wonder if in balance it is worth lowering our standards just to find out some super jock wears silk panties. Come on. What decision-making info are they going to find on a web site that is going to negate having a cannon for an arm or running a 4.3 forty? They let felons back into the league a la Pac Man Jones and pretty soon Michael Vick. Unless some college kid is running a dog fighting operation, I don't see the worth of lowering standards. But that's just me.
  18. FairlyHonestBob
    18. Posted by FairlyHonestBob Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:28 pm EDT

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    Was he wearing an old, stained raincoat while spying?
  19. .................................................!
    19. Posted by .................................................! Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:44 pm EDT

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    Until the rookie pay scale is lowered, this will happen. When 50% of first round picks are overpaid busts, this is what you get.
    Your move Gooddell. Just as soon as you get back from your meeting on how to extend the regular season and which player to suspend next to glorify your own smug sense of righteousness.
  20. ScottDawg
    20. Posted by ScottDawg Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:38 pm EDT

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    There is no gray area here. This deception is unethical. The ends or the $$$ involved do not dictate whether it is ethical or not. If they lowered the rookie salaries, they would still do it because they can, with no consideration of whether they should.
  21. JohnnyFootballHero
    21. Posted by JohnnyFootballHero Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:57 pm EDT

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    i need for the season to start already...
  22. SeanO
    22. Posted by SeanO Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:44 pm EDT

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    blonde, 21 years old, dd's, enjoy steak dinners, watching football, and walking around the house naked.......
    if it seems too good to be true, it is...you have to accept them on the book, so plain and simple, dont risk millions over making yourself seem more popular
  23. enr p
    23. Posted by enr p Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:55 pm EDT

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    ahhhh, no wonder she knew soo much about my locker room condition.... dam !
  24. Legal Eagle
    24. Posted by Legal Eagle Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:21 pm EDT

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    I couldn't agree with SeanO anymore
  25. eric a
    25. Posted by eric a Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:08 pm EDT

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    When a team is about invest a 1st or 2nd round pick and millions of dollars in someone hell yeah they have the right. I mean if dude turns out to be a Mike Vick or Rickie Williams the teams dont get to do a redo on the pick or recoup ALL the millions they spent on the jackass! Find out as much info about there character as you can, not everyone can be as lucky as the Falcons and actually wind up in a better situation after the tragedy!

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