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The Sunday Evening Spongebath is a collection of random observations, notes, complaints, and joy-filled remembrances from a Sunday in the NFL. 

I thought Herm might take a beating in the media after he decided to go for two at the end of regulation against the Chargers, playing for the win, as opposed to playing for overtime. 

In the hour after the game, I got one e-mail congratulating me for having Herm Edwards in my division, and another text message calling Herm a name that rhymes with "she-lard." But that was it. Everyone else seems to be leaving him alone, or even supporting the decision, and this makes me happy. I've got a soft spot for Herm.

Soft spot aside, though, it was the right call. The Chiefs were on the road, their offense played the second half like their heads were wrapped in duct tape, and the Chargers had scored their only touchdowns of the game in the second half. Momentum was with the Chargers. Not just with the Chargers, but giving the Chargers a hot oil rubdown with one hand, and flicking boogers on the Chiefs with the other. 

Consider all that, and ask yourself this: If you're the Chiefs, in that situation, is it better to roll your dice on one three-yard play, or line everything back up and engage in a real contest of professional football? 

I'll take my chances on the three-yarder. Earlier in the year, when Mike Shanahan did the exact same thing, he was hailed as a brilliant riverboat gambler (as a tangent, weren't most riverboat gamblers probably scumbags?). It happened to work for Shanny. 

It happened to not work for Herm, in part because Shaun Phillips made a great individual play on defense. I don't think that means it was a bad call.

While we're on the subject on the Chargers, after their first quarter against the Chiefs, I was ready to call it quits on their season and accept fate as a non-playoff team. They came out, they still couldn't run the ball effectively, and Ron Rivera's first drive as a defensive coordinator was a 95-yard Tyler Thigpen effort that resulted in a touchdown.

But then the second half happened, The Chiefs didn't have a drive longer than five plays until the last one, LaDainian Tomlinson found some running room, and Philip Rivers was slinging the ball all over the field like the perfectly nice gentleman he is. I dunno. I changed my mind, and decided not to accept fate as a non-playoff team.

I'm on the brink, though. But I'm not doing it just quite yet.

By the way, Tyler Thigpen? He doesn't suck. Scratch his name off the list of guys you can use as an example of a terrible quarterback.

Before the Bears/Titans game, one of the pregame shows had a little feature on Rex Grossman and the boos he's taken in his career as a Bear. Turns out, Rex was even booed on Family Night earlier this year in Chicago. Booed on Family Night. What are you, Eagles fans? Do you show up at local elementary school science fairs and heckle the dork kids?

I hope it wasn't you, Leibovitz Family. I'd be so disappointed.

And then Rex came out and scored against the Titans in the first drive of the game. I hope he was thinking that there are a lot of people at Family Night who can stuff their sorries in a sack.

This might be my imagination, but I think the month of November makes Jeff Fisher's mustache/goatee/beard grayer. It just looks more wintry. If I were to somehow learn that Jeff Fisher stopped using Just For Men or Grecian Formula past the day of November 1st, I'd be so incredibly impressed.

By the way, what are we calling the thing Tony Sparano is wearing on the sidelines? It's kind of like a windbreaker, except the sleeves stop just below the elbow, and it's not banded on bottom. It's kind of like a pullover rainslicker that zips down to the chest and is a little longer than a traditional jacket, but not as long as a rainjacket ... it's an unusual garment. I don't know if I've ever seen anyone else wearing one.

Basically, it's a short nightgown that repels wind and rain. If it's not too late, I'd like to call it a man-gown. 

Good news for the Lions? Their throwback uniforms, as always, look fantastic. Bad news for the Lions? Daunte Culpepper's throwback uniform probably had to be cut a little larger than they'd have liked. Good news for the Lions? The signing of Daunte brought new hope and promise that the Lions might not go winless. Bad news for the Lions? Daunte's second pass as a Lion was intercepted.

Bad news for the Lions? They're still the Lions.

Of course, the Lions may have been up against an immovable force this week. Jack Del Rio banned dominoes in the Jags locker room, and it's evidently brought about a new focus. I can't wait to see how good the Jags get when Jack Del Rio bans Hungry Hungry Hippos.

Joe Flacco is a magnificent stallion of a quarterback. I was completely wrong on him. Earlier in the year, I looked at him and thought, "Ah, chalk Baltimore up this year, this guy's not taking them anywhere as a rookie." But he was everything you'd want a quarterback to be this week against the Texans. 

He's not a dink/dunk game manager, either. He makes throws. He goes downfield. John Harbaugh put the big boy pants on him, and he's grown into them quickly. Color me impressed.

Crazy Fish Guy's magnificent resurgence continued on Sunday. He was back in the house for the second week in a row, and this week, he latched onto some poor young fellow and shared a table with him.

Two things about this make me happy. One, he's back, and still alive. Two, he's sitting with someone who isn't me. There wasn't a lot of conversation coming from that table. There was a visible awkwardness clouded over the table. You could actually see it. It was yellow.

The Fish Guy did make contact with me after the game, though. I congratulated him on the Dolphins victory, and he said, "I was getting nervous, I thought they were going to lose!" Yes, if you want your team to win, the possibility of them losing is something that might make you nervous.

I asked how he's been, but not where, because whatever exists in my imagination (tied up in the basement of a bookie, for example) is certainly better than reality. The bad news is that next week, there's a strong chance that he'll attempt to sit with me. Stay tuned.

While we're on the subject of people in the bar ... you know who I hate? The guy who has to yell the loudest so people know that he cares the most. There's one in every bar.

Run off-tackle for a gain of four? "YEAH, ATTA WAY, BABY, YEAH!"

Getting some pressure on the quarterback? "GET 'EM, GET 'EM, GET 'EM! AWWWWWW."

Timeout? "GOOD TIMEOUT, COACH. YEAH. GOOD TIMEOUT."

There are times when I feel like approaching this guy and asking him, "Hey, buddy... if we all acknowledge that you're the biggest fan here and that you're very very special, do you think you might shut the filth flarn up?"

This might sound crazy to say, given the standings and the impending softening of the Bills schedule, but ... the loss that the Bills suffered at the hands of the Patriots today didn't feel like a case where they got knocked down, and could get back up next week. It felt like the Patriots shoved them down a well.

In a division where everyone else is trending upwards (the Patriots getting more comfortable with Matt Cassell, the Jets getting more comfortable with Favre, the Dolphins improving every week), Buffalo's just stuck in neutral and getting banged around.

Right now, it feels like they're in the bumper cars at the amusement park, and they got the car that doesn't work.

When things go bad for Sage Rosenfels ... they really go bad, don't they? After one or two interceptions, it might be time to consider pulling him. Not because Craig Nall is better, or because Sage won't be the guy next week, but because he just doesn't respond well to interceptions.

It's like he throws one, and instead of getting angry with himself, he thinks, "Hey, that was fun!  Let's do it seven more times!"

It's like in hockey, if a goalie just loses his mind on a given day and gives up four goals in about five minutes (HANRAHAN! SUZANNE SUCKS -- ah, never mind), he gets pulled. Not because his job's in trouble, but to save him further embarrassment. I felt like Gary Kubiak should've given Sage Rosenfels that courtesy today.

My favorite stat of the day:

The Raiders held Jake Delhomme to a passer rating of 12.3. And lost by double digits.

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  1. Paul R
    1. Posted by Paul R Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:03 pm EDT

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    I disagree with Herm Edward's decision to go for two. KC struggled in its previous 3 plays from the 2 yard when trying to score the initial TD and it took a remarkable/lucky catch by T. Gonzalez to finally get it in. On the two-point play itself Thigpen's bootleg was immediately eaten up by Shaun Phillips. More significant is that the Chiefs are 1-8. It is easy for a coach to pull the go for two faux bravery at this point in the season. I doubt he does this in the superbowl. That means it was a gimmick. "You play to win the game" not to look like a gutsy coach in the process.
    I see right through you Herm. You're lucky no one else does.
  2. upamtn
    2. Posted by upamtn Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:46 pm EDT

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    Great and gutsy call by Herm Edwards, and the right call to make, he played to win and not simply "not to lose" (and by showing that kind of confidence in his players I think they'll respond in kind over the course of the rest of the season - I like how Tyler Thigpen is playing, I like how the Chiefs are playing (losses notwithstanding) the last three weeks - I like the way Herm is getting the most out a ragtag bunch of players - I can honestly see KC improving now, slowly but surely - rebuilding isn't pretty, but finally there's a ray of hope, sunshine in a dark season of injuries and too many L's - look out, NFL, the Chiefs will be a force to reckon with next year
  3. Six
    3. Posted by Six Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:44 pm EDT

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    any smart coach would have gone for 1, but I honestly think he felt like the Chiefs were bailed out by a blown call again. This one wasn't as blatant as the Denver game, but still, that P.I. call was ridiculous.
  4. William U
    4. Posted by William U Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:46 pm EDT

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    The call wasn't that bad in real time. The replay made it look like a terrible call, but in real time, Gonzalez was altered in the air just before the ball arrived. After watching the replay, I'm not sure how Gonzalez moved like that in mid air (whether it was "athleticism" or pass interference), but his body did not seem to move normally before the ball got there, and that is why the flag flew.
  5. Eric
    5. Posted by Eric Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:23 pm EDT

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    I say good call. Playing for overtime generally means playing for the coin flip. If San Diego had won the toss for OT, KC might have never gotten another chance to score.
  6. Jesus Was A Black Jew Productions
    6. Posted by Jesus Was A Black Jew Productions Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:02 pm EDT

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    If Larry Johnson was in the game, it's a good call to go for 2. But when there's no power rushing threat on the field, and the defense pretty much knows that it's gonna be a Tyler Thigpen throw to Gonzalez or Bowe, then you play for overtime and hope you win the coin toss.
  7. Asleep until further notice
    7. Posted by Asleep until further notice Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:49 pm EDT

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    It's only the right call when it works. This was a stupid call be Edwards, who single handedly wasted his teams valiant efforts to win the game. No wonder the Chiefs are 1-8. Even when they have a victory in sight the dumb coach gives it away.
  8. GiuseppeL
    8. Posted by GiuseppeL Thu Sep 03, 2009 6:53 pm EDT

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    "Filth Flarn" - Love it!
  9. Pat
    9. Posted by Pat Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:30 pm EDT

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    The Bills seem to be in trouble. They should really try to add a finesse rusher in next year's draft, because they haven't been getting to opposing quarterbacks at all this year. The run blocking has also been abysmal, but no draft pick will really improve that.
  10. Jeff
    10. Posted by Jeff Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:47 pm EDT

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    I guess people don't put the game into perspective when considering what's the right move. The Chiefs defense was clearly getting owned in the second half, especially by Rivers and all of the long completions. The team has much better personnel on offense than defense and with only a couple yards left to decide a victory, why wouldn't you go for it? I think people are nuts for suggesting it was a good gamble to go to overtime. If you want to look it from a standpoint of percentages, I'd say it was 50/50 to do either move. Therefore, the move was correct and had the Chiefs drawn up a better call, they'd have won. Using Bowe as a decoy was lame. At least draw a play up where he's one of the guys who has a shot. You've got to use your best weapons.
  11. The Unsilent Majority
    11. Posted by The Unsilent Majority Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:01 pm EDT

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    "Jack Del Rio banned dominoes in the Jags locker room, and it's evidently brought about a new focus. I can't wait to see how good the Jags get when Jack Del Rio bans Hungry Hungry Hippos."
    That and the line from Slapshot were awesome.
  12. daddymag
    12. Posted by daddymag Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:34 pm EDT

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    You play... to win... the game.
  13. Five_outs
    13. Posted by Five_outs Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:54 pm EDT

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    Herm Edwards sucks. The Chiefs have gotten worse since he took over
  14. Five_outs
    14. Posted by Five_outs Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:54 pm EDT

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    Herm Edwards sucks. The Chiefs have gotten worse since he took over
  15. NFL Sage
    15. Posted by NFL Sage Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:54 pm EDT

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    you play for overtime and hope you win the coin toss.
    And then what? You've just acknowledged that you can't score, so why don't you just SD the ball and get it ovre with.
    Going for 2 is *definitely* the right call.
    Joe Flacco - yea, me too.
    SD - Your initial decision was right, the chargers are not a playoff team. Go Broncos!
  16. mikez34
    16. Posted by mikez34 Thu Sep 03, 2009 7:20 pm EDT

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    Going for two was the right move, but I don't like they play they called. Gonzalez was the only one Thigpen could throw to. Bowe was playing decoy and Bradley wasn't even in the end zone. Dumb play call. Even though they aren't winning, the Chiefs have at least shown signs of life the last few weeks and are actually an NFL team again.
  17. Grimmis
    17. Posted by Grimmis Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:46 pm EDT

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    yeah, herm shoulda went for the extra point, gone into OT, try to get the ball back, and expose san diego's terrible defense against tight ends.
  18. Freddy Fox
    18. Posted by Freddy Fox Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:02 pm EDT

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    My favorite stat: Bears held the rushing-heavy Titans to 20 yards on the ground, were playing at home, and still lost. Rex for President! lol
  19. RH Management
    19. Posted by RH Management Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:54 pm EDT

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    Yeah... the Chiefs should fire him.... Along with the Lions Head Cluck... I mean Coach!!!! sorry...
  20. Five_outs
    20. Posted by Five_outs Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:54 pm EDT

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    freddie fox, The Bears just don't realize that football is anything other than running the ball and stopping the run. I bet they were good in the 1940's
  21. pwingf
    21. Posted by pwingf Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:23 pm EDT

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    Two point conversion is a 2 yard play, not a 3 yard play. Once again, these bloggers show their lack of knowledge for a game they should be somewhat expert in. Everyone knows the two point conversion or extra point is from the two yard line. duh
  22. Rawr...
    22. Posted by Rawr... Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:20 pm EDT

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    I'm njo Chief fan, but Herm Edwards is a very good coach on a bad, but "rising" team. I applaud the decision to go for two on the road, against the chargers, who lost the same way in week two. Tyler Thigpen and the defense has looked awesome in the first half of the last two games, they just need to learn how to close out games. Once that happens, and Larry Johnson grows up, this will be a good squad. Look out for this team in the next few seasons.
  23. KEKOA STEELER D
    23. Posted by KEKOA STEELER D Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:53 pm EDT

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    I don't care about the team record...Herm Edwards is number 1!!! *STEELERS*
  24. haganbro2
    24. Posted by haganbro2 Thu Sep 03, 2009 4:15 pm EDT

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    The last Chiefs drive was another example of the horrid officiating plaguing the NFL this year. They review the Franklin catch which was really inconclusive and overturn it. Then Bowe catches the 30 yard pass down the sideline which is obviously a catch with 2 feet in, but it's ruled incomplete on the field and NOT EVEN REVIEWED. Followed by the 4th down catch to Bradley which they go review right away, followed by a bogus pass interference call.
    Just crap all around that last drive which really took away some zest from an otherwise very entertaining game.
  25. Czheck
    25. Posted by Czheck Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:33 pm EDT

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    Herm edwards is a great coach on the worst team in the league chillin right there with my team at the bottom the raiders. put herm on that pats and he would be winning superbowls

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