Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:30 am EDT
I
know where I stand. And I know where a lot of people stood as of noon on
Sunday. But what about right now, the morning of Tuesday, October 14th? Do we
still have a large contingent of "Eli is better than Peyton"
believers?
If you are one such believer -- and last week, it was all the rage -- maybe you feel like it'd be shortsighted to change your mind back to Peyton after this one particular weekend of football.
Peyton had 3 touchdowns and a 134.7 passer rating against the best passing defense in football, and Eli had 3 interceptions and a 57.1 passer rating against the Cleveland Browns. But so what, it's just one game, right?
Okay. So let's forget about that one game. And yes, I realize that it's easy to write a rebuttal to that counterpoint after this weekend's events, but if it makes you feel any better, I'll be happy to ignore this week when making my case.
If it's shortsighted to draw or change an opinion after this one week, I'd counter that it was way more shortsighted to ignore the last 10 years of Peyton Manning's career in favor of Eli Manning's last, what, 10 games or so? Peyton's quarterback rating has been below 84.1 for an entire season exactly once in his career: when he had a 71.2 rating as a rookie.
Meanwhile, Eli's quarterback year-long rating has never climbed out of the 70s. It likely will this year, but even last year, when he won the Super Bowl, it was a meager 73.9. Peyton didn't win any hardware last year, but he did manage to post a 98.0 rating.
True, through six weeks of the 2008 campaign, the numbers are a bit different. Eli, after last night's regression, is carrying a 91.4 rating to Peyton's 87.8, an advantage I'd describe as extremely slight. But an advantage nonetheless, I suppose.
But let's not confuse the Giants' success with Eli's proficiency, and let's not confuse the Colts weak start with any declining skills in Peyton Manning. Let's not ignore circumstance here.
Statistically, Eli has the NFL's best running to lean on and to open up the passing game. Peyton's running game? Dead last. There's also the issue of the Colts injuries along the offensive line, and let's not forget that Peyton had a scalpel bouncing around in his knee twice this offseason. I think he can be excused if it takes him a few games to find his mojo.
But really, none of that matters, either. Here's the only relevant question: If you had to win a game tomorrow, and you had to pick one quarterback to do it, are you taking Peyton or Eli?
Do you really believe Eli is as good at Peyton at doing all the crafty veteran things that a quarterback's expected to do? Pre-snap reads, setting up a corner, recognizing coverages, immediately recognizing the open guy ... is Eli on Peyton's level there?
I say no, and I say it so emphatically that even Jerramy Stevens would understand. No. No! No! NO! Maybe Eli's got some youthful advantages in quickness and footspeed, and maybe even arm strength. But Peyton's still got a cannon, and he's still damn hard to sack. And I'll be surprised if Peyton isn't statistically the best quarterback at the end of the season.
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peyton's the better player, sure, but he's really unlikeable, to a point where i'm turned off products he endorses. eli would never mistake himself as the star of the giants, and i like that about him - he knows he's just one part of a complete team.
stats is one thing, but personality sells. and peyton manning is a pretentious tit.
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You, sir, have just gotten me in trouble in class. I burst out laughing when I read the Jerramy Stevens line. Way to go.
Also, while I have you, I think you are the direct cause of the internal hemorrhaging I have going on right now. It's from holding in a laugh upon reading your nickname for Eli Manning on your old site. Thanks.
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He had a very good run in the playoffs last year, but outside of that he has not great.
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Being a Colts fan, I definitely think Peyton is better. I am positive Giants fans will pick Eli. The only real indication of which is better came from the ONE game that they played each other and the Colts won.
Let's get some better things out here to talk about...like if Tony Romo's broken pinky is going to hurt his relationshop with Jessica Simpson.
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this is one of about 12 sites i've got bookmarked i come back to, but i rarely feel i've learned something new.
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So you agree with what he said - that Peyton is better, but you just HAD to find something to moan about?
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If you have one drive. Its the fourth quarter and you're down by 4 points there's 1:45 left on the clock, who do you want out there?
Peyton? or Eli? For me there is no question, no debate, nothing that would make me want Eli more than Peyton. Not even Eli's age would make me want him more than Peyton. I believe that I still have a good 4-5 years before the Colts are irrelavant again, simply because of Peyton Manning. Cut Eli tomorrow and there are 20 other guys that could fill in tomorrow and do it just as well.
There's only one guy that could step into Peyton's spot and play the same or better, and his knee is filled with stitches right now.
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The payoff was listening to the Cleveland crowd chanting what all Pats fans know--"over-rated!"
I have the utmost respect for Peyton and watching the Colts v Pats was a treat--watching two great QBs battle, but watching the Giants? Not so much.
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